Unless one of the veteran D get injured or ask for a rest (unlikely), only a losing streak will likely see Weber on the D. Forward all it may take is a loss (but we'll only see where he is if he plays his natural position).
You'd scratch a guy who finally has found a home in the NHL where he can play well and has the second best plus minus on the team for a guy who will be playing in Europe next year???????
you guys are crazy! I'd scratch Gomez before Picard at this point.
When will people learn, Weber IS NOT NHL material! Neither is Carle. They haven't cracked the lineup yet, and they never will. If they were that good, you think they'd be looking at re-signing Gill?
Agree with you 100% on Weber. Watched him since he came to Hamilton and he is one dementional player. They are trying to give him defensive minutes but I doubt it will work. As for Carle, I'm not so sure. He has had injury problems over the past but this year is playing well for the Dogs. If he'd been given the same chance in camp Picard was given, he might have turned things around.
uh, what? Picard has been solid. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I'm not denying that, but the upside of Weber could be much higher. A great puck mover with the potential of being a PP QB as he is in AHL, I'd alternate him with Picard to see where he is at. It's not a knock on Picard at all, he's been great, it's a lot more like the Price-Halak situation of the past seasons, both needed to play.
Originally Posted by GoodKiwi
I'm just going by what JM thinks based on Weber's play time or rather lack of thereof. What about you?
I'm going by the fact he was burning it up in the AHL, was the best player of his team, and didn't play defense for us once this year (except for 1 shift at the end of a 3-0 game). Nobody knows if he's ready, kid wasn't given a chance. Playing forward is not a chance.
Never been fond of Weber and always thought he was too weak to contain his man or win battles along the boards.
Would like to see him now to see if he's addressed his weakness.
This is the fundamental problem with him and why he will prolly be in switzerland in a year or two.
From his 4th line time we can still see him being outmuscled all over the ice.
The usual drama queens make it sound like he is getting picked on, but the reality is he just has no roster spot. People suggesting they sit vets who are logging 22 mins for the Habs a night for a rookie sound like morons. Meanwhile Weber is practicing with the team and being evaluated, 5 star NHL style room & board while he collects 3500$ a day salary (which he would get every 2 weeks in the AHL!!!), it's not like he is living in a jail cell in Montreal between trips to the pressbox on gameday. Plenty of guys on the Bulldogs would LOVE to be in his situation even if it is tough for him to get minutes.
I like Weber a lot, but to ask if he's seen Weber play for the Habs before is ridiculous.
Picard is going no where. He played nearly 20 minutes last night.
Why is it ridiculous?..Someone that will claim how Weber is a defensive liability should explain to me the reason behind this assessment seeing how Weber has yet to play on defense for us this year. What he's done in the previous seasons is irrelevant as young prospect improve. So it remain to be seen just how far off or ready Weber is this year.
I don't really care about Picard's play. Price/Halak or Price/Huet use to alternate even after having played good games at times. Picard has been great, but he is the #7 Dman and right now, if Weber is just going to be a filler in practice and a healthy scratch, then send him back down. If he's called up, then he should play, as simple as that. We're talking about a skilled D, he needs to play, not rot in the pressbox or be used as a forward.
If contract negotiations with Gill have indeed started, clearly, it means the organization sees him with us again. I'm guessing we will also re-sign Markov/Gorges. If we choose not to give a new contract to Hammer, then we will need to replace him.
So unless Weber really has no future with this organization, Picard will likely be gone.
The kid is 22, will be 23 by the start of next year, will be eligible to waivers, and only has 13 games of experience through 3years (2 of those games he played as a forward).
I don't see us retaining Picard's services, so I much rather we focus on Weber and letting him sit in the press box isn't the right way to go about developing him.