HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

#26 - 11.29.2010 | Pittsburgh Penguins @ New York Rangers | 7:00 PM - MSG (HD)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-29-2010, 11:15 PM
  #926
Wraparounds
Powerful Wizard
 
Wraparounds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,381
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz View Post
I definitely think we should pursue MAB.

Waive White and put MAB on the 4th line.
We definitely need the PP help.

Wraparounds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:15 PM
  #927
Salvage21
Registered User
 
Salvage21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Scranton, PA
Posts: 619
vCash: 500
To sum up this game two words:

Del Zotto. . . WIDE.

I use to get crazy about wins and losses.. but I eased up a little bit. Now i just try to enjoy watching hockey for what it is (that's not to say that I don't want them to win really badly). So having said that, it was pretty exciting game to watch- good, hard, physical game.

My simple two cents.

Salvage21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:16 PM
  #928
trilobyte
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 12,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYRfan68 View Post
I literally muted the game at one point.

The announcers are so awful.
I had been doing pretty well with P2P links and atdhe.net, but tonight it was too much to take listening to those amatuers at FSN. They are sad, and they should be striving to be good at their jobs, but obviously they are too stupid and don't possess the integrity.

I subscribed to GameCenter Live after the 2nd period tonight.

So yes, I hear you. I muted them too.


Last edited by trilobyte: 11-29-2010 at 11:25 PM. Reason: had to
trilobyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:17 PM
  #929
bleedblue94
Registered User
 
bleedblue94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,220
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by msg View Post
Overall I'm pretty happy with team. They play hard and I like there style. There schedule gets a little easier. I think they are a playoff team. But they are not really going to compete with the top teams until they can get another big time player like Richards.

The powerplay is awful. Sather should of went after someone like Foster. But I guess we really needed to sign Boogaard. Maybe he should try to sign Marc-Andre Bergeron he will definately help out the pp.
and then MAB will kill us at even strength... have you seen him defensively? its a sh!tshow

bleedblue94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:21 PM
  #930
BlueshirtBlitz
Rich Nash
 
BlueshirtBlitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 18,741
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue94 View Post
and then MAB will kill us at even strength... have you seen him defensively? its a sh!tshow
Put him as a forward on the 4th line and give him the same minutes you give Boogaard. Allow whichever center is on that 4th line to shift with other lines as well as PK. (PP if its Boyle and he's being put infront of the net )

All he'd be doing is getting rid of White and being used on the PP.

BlueshirtBlitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:30 PM
  #931
lbrowne
Registered User
 
lbrowne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,122
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA View Post
Vince Lombardi? haha You mean Peter Loubardias?
LOL Must be, I usually change the channel quick if he's calling the game. I'll go edit my post haha

Too funny.

lbrowne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:31 PM
  #932
trueblue35
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 132
vCash: 500
After coming back from the game, I can't for the life of me figure out somethings that were done tonight.

Lets start with the lines. I understand that torts is trying once again to find some type of chemistry, but the lines he put out tonight made no sense at all. For example at one point he had a line of Dubi, Callahan and White and another time he had two centers on a line with Gaborik, I believe it was EC, and Stepan. There is no way that your going to generate any real offense threat with those type of lines. If he is not going to keep the PAC line or any of the others that have been working together, I would at least expect him to put lines together that made more sense than tonights.

Secondly The way we enter the offensive zone needs to be changed. I don't understand why we have to play dump and chase, especially when it hasn't worked the whole game. It seems as if Torts wants the puck to just be passed in front of the net from the boards. All it does is put more defenders in front to protect the pass and the goalie, thus making many of the offensive rushes rendered unsuccessful. Teams know that we are going to do it and can easily defend against it. Moreover, it hinders the teams ability to cycle the puck effectively, which is one of the reasons they are having trouble getting pucks cleanly to the net.

Lastly the PP. I'm lost for words.

trueblue35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:33 PM
  #933
lbrowne
Registered User
 
lbrowne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,122
vCash: 500
Oh yeah and while I don't think Del Zotto should be sent to the minors, I think he certainly should be sat for a game or two. Along with Frolov.

lbrowne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:33 PM
  #934
Wraparounds
Powerful Wizard
 
Wraparounds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,381
vCash: 500
Alright, against the Islanders, cut the crap Torts. I want to see:

Frolov - Anisimov - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Stepan - Callahan
Avery - Boyle - Fedotenko
Prust - Christensen - White/Boogaard

Wraparounds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-29-2010, 11:42 PM
  #935
trilobyte
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 12,543
vCash: 500
With most teams, having a forward go right toward the net causes a defender to come in to cover. It usually opens up at least a bit of room for the guys out around the circles. Sometimes, if the defenders make a mistake, it might even draw a couple out of position.

How come this doesn't seem to work for the Rangers. Why is there rarely a guy open in the danger range, and if he is, nobody is looking to get the puck to him...quick, not effing around passing it along the boards forever.


Last edited by trilobyte: 11-29-2010 at 11:43 PM. Reason: had to
trilobyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 12:08 AM
  #936
RothmanHockey
Registered User
 
RothmanHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Port Chester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,666
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to RothmanHockey
http://insidehockey.com/?p=13115

Quote:
NEW YORK – The Rangers were just a step slow Monday night at Madison Square Garden, a 3-1 sandblasting by Pittsburgh that really didn’t ever seem that close.

“For that short stretch there, 10 minutes in the second, our D were back, and I think that’s because our forwards weren’t coming back,” Brandon Dubinsky said. “There was a big gap, which gave them opportunities to make chips and make plays. It’s not a secret. They got some damn good hockey players over there, guys that can make plays and hurt you if you play that way.”








Dubinsky audio includes some talk about Crosby and the alleged slew foot.

www.Twitter.com/RothmanHockey


Last edited by RothmanHockey: 11-30-2010 at 12:19 AM.
RothmanHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 12:52 AM
  #937
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 23,054
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue35 View Post
After coming back from the game, I can't for the life of me figure out somethings that were done tonight.

Lets start with the lines. I understand that torts is trying once again to find some type of chemistry, but the lines he put out tonight made no sense at all. For example at one point he had a line of Dubi, Callahan and White and another time he had two centers on a line with Gaborik, I believe it was EC, and Stepan. There is no way that your going to generate any real offense threat with those type of lines. If he is not going to keep the PAC line or any of the others that have been working together, I would at least expect him to put lines together that made more sense than tonights.

Secondly The way we enter the offensive zone needs to be changed. I don't understand why we have to play dump and chase, especially when it hasn't worked the whole game. It seems as if Torts wants the puck to just be passed in front of the net from the boards. All it does is put more defenders in front to protect the pass and the goalie, thus making many of the offensive rushes rendered unsuccessful. Teams know that we are going to do it and can easily defend against it. Moreover, it hinders the teams ability to cycle the puck effectively, which is one of the reasons they are having trouble getting pucks cleanly to the net.

Lastly the PP. I'm lost for words.
He has had those weird lines for the past couple of games. On the broadcast, Sam and Joe noted that White was paired with Dubinsky and Callahan. Joe said it gave the line a "new look" or something generic and to that effect. I also remember the last game that we rolled out Stepan-Christensen to start the OT period.

I'm all for experimenting with different combinations when things aren't working, but some of these were crazy. I wish he could just pick a few combinations and stick with them for a full game, give some time for chemistry to develop.

__________________

It's just pain.
nyr2k2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 01:29 AM
  #938
Ail
k.
 
Ail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 16,292
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue94 View Post
and then MAB will kill us at even strength... have you seen him defensively? its a sh!tshow
Agreed, MAB is Ales Kotaweak 2.0. An unreliable PP specialist who is worthless at even strength. He's hardly an upgrade over Todd White, depending on who you talk to, considering White isn't a huge liability at even strength on the 4th line.

Pass.

__________________
Ail is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 02:19 AM
  #939
Inferno
HFB Partner
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Country: United States
Posts: 19,997
vCash: 500
Rangers record VS Playoff Teams: 3-9-0
Rangers record VS Non-Playoff Teams: 11-2-1

About sums it up dontcha think?

Inferno is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 02:37 AM
  #940
Ola
Registered User
 
Ola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 17,533
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno272 View Post
Rangers record VS Playoff Teams: 3-9-0
Rangers record VS Non-Playoff Teams: 11-2-1

About sums it up dontcha think?
Before Torts came here we had worries about how his style would work against teams that could hold on to the puck.

It seems like we were right about those worries.

Ola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 03:08 AM
  #941
RangerFan10
Registered User
 
RangerFan10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island/Plattsbu
Country: United States
Posts: 5,327
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to RangerFan10
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedblue94 View Post
and then MAB will kill us at even strength... have you seen him defensively? its a sh!tshow
That's why you use him the way Montreal often used him, spare part on the 4th line for 4-5 minutes a game. It's at least a temporary solution until we have to fit Drury and then Prospal back into the lineup. He'll come cheap at this point, too.

I mean, is MAB at LW on the 4th line really that worse than White or Boogaard?

And I think White played good tonight, and is probably someone we shouldn't get rid of until Drury is back regardless of acquiring MAB or not. Scratch Frolov for MAB at this point.

RangerFan10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 03:08 AM
  #942
XLJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 1,358
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz View Post
Put him as a forward on the 4th line and give him the same minutes you give Boogaard. Allow whichever center is on that 4th line to shift with other lines as well as PK. (PP if its Boyle and he's being put infront of the net )

All he'd be doing is getting rid of White and being used on the PP.
Yeah thats what I'm thinking. White really does nothing. He cant score, he doesn't hit or provide grit like Avery & Prust. He has no role on this team. Give MAB Boogaard's minutes on the 4th line and let him play the entire powerplay. He will actually have a guy that can one time the puck and hit the net. Seems like no one on this team can do that.

This isn't a team that is going to score a lot 5 on 5. If they could put together a capable powerplay it would help out a lot.


Last edited by XLJ: 11-30-2010 at 03:32 AM.
XLJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 03:10 AM
  #943
RangerFan10
Registered User
 
RangerFan10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island/Plattsbu
Country: United States
Posts: 5,327
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to RangerFan10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraparounds View Post
Alright, against the Islanders, cut the crap Torts. I want to see:

Frolov - Anisimov - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Stepan - Callahan
Avery - Boyle - Fedotenko
Prust - Christensen - White/Boogaard
LW's need to be re-arranged.

Either go:
Dubi-Ani-Gaborik
Avery-Stepan-Cally
Frolov/Prust-Boyle-Fed

OR

Avery-Ani-Gaborik
Dubi-Stepan-Cally
Prust/Frolov-Boyle-Fed

Roll Christensen out there when we kill off a penalty and on the PP to keep him getting minutes, he hasn't been bad.

RangerFan10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 04:58 AM
  #944
pld459666
Registered User
 
pld459666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Danbury, CT
Country: United States
Posts: 16,219
vCash: 873
watched the game and never thought that we were in it at any point.

The talent disparity is alarming, and I know that Gaborik scored, but was not and have not been impressed with him this season at all.

He needs to lead this team, not be a passenger. And yes, I say that knowing his line-mates are EC and Fedotenko

pld459666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 05:31 AM
  #945
Blueshirt Special
Registered User
 
Blueshirt Special's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,094
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ola View Post
Before Torts came here we had worries about how his style would work against teams that could hold on to the puck.

It seems like we were right about those worries.
I don;t think you can blame Torts for this game. lol

We're a .500 team. 18 point out of a possible 32 this month. But you know what? I am not UNHAPPY with that.

Pittsburgh brought their A game, no doubt about that.

A number 1 center would make us a bone fide playoff contender. But where could we get one? It would be great if Anisimov could grow into that part, but so far, I don't see it.

Blueshirt Special is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 05:59 AM
  #946
truebluegoalie
Registered User
 
truebluegoalie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,239
vCash: 500
Third star of the game goes to Sidney Crosby for 1 assist and 1 slewfoot. So pathetic, all he has to do is get a point and he gets named a star. Last rangers game, same thing.

And pens fans wonder why fans of other teams hate him for the way the media/league shoves him down our throats.

truebluegoalie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 06:12 AM
  #947
truebluegoalie
Registered User
 
truebluegoalie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,239
vCash: 500
Crosby's reply about the slewfoot and dubi's comments:

How many penalty minutes do I have this year, if Im that dirty?, said Crosby, who has 15 penalty minutes this season. I mean, please. Show me all those dirty plays. Its a battle and he falls. I think Dubi has done his fair share of things out there that are questionable. I guess hes talking again. But Im not surprised.

Its a battle (with Callahan), Crosby added. Hes holding me going up ice and Im trying to push him off. Is it that calculated? Im trying to get to the net. Im not worried about that kind of thing. If I tripped him, I tripped him. Am I dirty hockey player? Cmon. I think Dubi is smarter than that.

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/r...lay_by_crosby/

Note to sid the moron. Just because you don't get called for it doesn't mean it isn't dirty.

truebluegoalie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 06:44 AM
  #948
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 31,847
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by pld459666 View Post
watched the game and never thought that we were in it at any point.

The talent disparity is alarming, and I know that Gaborik scored, but was not and have not been impressed with him this season at all.

He needs to lead this team, not be a passenger. And yes, I say that knowing his line-mates are EC and Fedotenko
The talent disparity is Crosby. Malkin is sleepwalking. Staal hasn't played a game yet.

They play a good defensive game. People complain that the Rangers have to block shots and play physical because they have no talent. Pittsburgh plays the same way. Simple game. Block and deflect every shot. Solid goaltender. A ton of cash invested on D. A bunch of role players.

RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 07:25 AM
  #949
DubiDubiDoo
Registered User
 
DubiDubiDoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Garden City, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 2,927
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to DubiDubiDoo
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerBoy View Post
The talent disparity is Crosby. Malkin is sleepwalking. Staal hasn't played a game yet.

They play a good defensive game. People complain that the Rangers have to block shots and play physical because they have no talent. Pittsburgh plays the same way. Simple game. Block and deflect every shot. Solid goaltender. A ton of cash invested on D. A bunch of role players.
I totally agree with you, as I dont think the skill of our forwards is our weak point. I truly believe its our pedestrain defense that contributes terribly to the offense and plays some of the most pedestrian, non physical defense in its own zone.

I've been happiest with Girardi and Sauer this season, and sadly eminger too...

Staal, Rozsy and MDZ NEED to pick it up, both offensively and physically. Teams get to many even strength shifts on us that look like Power Plays.

DubiDubiDoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-30-2010, 07:48 AM
  #950
GWOW
Two Pucks, One Cup
 
GWOW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Country: United States
Posts: 14,459
vCash: 500
Wow, the Rangers lost to the hottest team in hockey!!!!!!!!!


Let's riot in front of the Garden and bench the 20-year-old defenseman.


Yeah! That'll work out just fine.

GWOW is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:21 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.