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12-06-2010, 05:36 PM
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I just realized my 8th highest paid player (http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=321409) is no longer even in my starting lineup. That doesn't seem right.

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12-06-2010, 05:38 PM
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I just realized my 8th highest paid player (http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=321409) is no longer even in my starting lineup. That doesn't seem right.
36 stamina, ew.

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12-06-2010, 05:40 PM
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Ha there's a free coach named Raskolnikov.

Won my game 5-1 today.

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12-06-2010, 05:45 PM
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This guy is a target of mine:

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=272120

I was already outbid on him, and I intend to snipe him at the last minute. The player doesn't have my name on there, but just a heads up that I am going for him (for the record).

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12-06-2010, 05:48 PM
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Does a player's epa matter that much? For instance I'm looking at a center with an EPA of 63 and a trade value of 66 However, he has good passing, skating, speed, puck control, faceoffs, hitting, and work rate. Does it matter that he might be going up against guys in the 70s in terms of epa? I may not get him for cap reasons, and he only has 55 stamina, which is a bit low for a second line guy, but we'll see.

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12-06-2010, 05:53 PM
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This guy is a target of mine:

http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=272120

I was already outbid on him, and I intend to snipe him at the last minute. The player doesn't have my name on there, but just a heads up that I am going for him (for the record).
Even the old guys are getting expensive, wow.
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Does a player's epa matter that much? For instance I'm looking at a center with an EPA of 63 and a trade value of 66 However, he has good passing, skating, speed, puck control, faceoffs, hitting, and work rate. Does it matter that he might be going up against guys in the 70s in terms of epa? I may not get him for cap reasons, and he only has 55 stamina, which is a bit low for a second line guy, but we'll see.
Ehh, EPA is a good tool to use, but it's not the most important thing. If a player fits into your scheme well, you'll be alright.

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12-06-2010, 06:09 PM
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Even the old guys are getting expensive, wow.
Thankfully my offensive players are set. The couple of wingers I am targeting are defensive oriented and, so far, have slipped under the radar.

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12-06-2010, 06:13 PM
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Thankfully my offensive players are set. The couple of wingers I am targeting are defensive oriented and, so far, have slipped under the radar.
Exactly why I'm resorting to trade markets... you guys cleaned out FA's while the getting was good and I was ****ed due to Niks incompetence.

Ugh, I'm just utterly disgusted and pissed off right now at TH and Nik.

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12-06-2010, 06:16 PM
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Exactly why I'm resorting to trade markets... you guys cleaned out FA's while the getting was good and I was ****ed due to Niks incompetence.

Ugh, I'm just utterly disgusted and pissed off right now at TH and Nik.
I also went for depth rather than fighting over the 80+ guys. So I got a ton of 75-78 range guys for 1.5M a pop.

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12-06-2010, 07:04 PM
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I also went for depth rather than fighting over the 80+ guys. So I got a ton of 75-78 range guys for 1.5M a pop.
So you'll have to take your team apart next year... That's reassuring.

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12-06-2010, 07:17 PM
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So you'll have to take your team apart next year... That's reassuring.
Dude, so will everyone else.

TH for US coaches has officially become about keeping 6-8 core, bugged players and recycling every other position in FA every year.

In 5 seasons I doubt I will have more than 5 players from my current roster, and probably only 2 or 3 Americans.

Nik needs to implement long term deals and such, that would make the game SO much more involved and fun.

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12-06-2010, 07:36 PM
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So you'll have to take your team apart next year... That's reassuring.
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Dude, so will everyone else.

TH for US coaches has officially become about keeping 6-8 core, bugged players and recycling every other position in FA every year.

In 5 seasons I doubt I will have more than 5 players from my current roster, and probably only 2 or 3 Americans.

Nik needs to implement long term deals and such, that would make the game SO much more involved and fun.
Yeah, I'll just have to grab 4 or 5 new FAs each year. It's annoying but not a huge deal.

I also went after two lines of very defensive players which should keep costs down.

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12-06-2010, 07:53 PM
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Can anyone with some free cap space help a brotha' out?

I was planning on trading a dman, but decided against it, and now I have 10 dmen over 72 EPA at 99/99, not including a bid I am winning for this guy: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=401436

He is a real nice dman: good stam, good def stats and high passing, but at best he would be a 9th dman and I can't afford to keep him currently, even though he is only going for 700K.

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out, and I am sure some of you could use a dman like him.

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12-06-2010, 07:56 PM
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So if I was going to change teams, should I go to a foreign squad? Are there any requirements to do that?

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12-06-2010, 08:03 PM
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Am I the only one who didn't earn RP and XP for the game today?

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12-06-2010, 08:07 PM
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So if I was going to change teams, should I go to a foreign squad? Are there any requirements to do that?
You are too new to be able to go to a foreign team. Certain countries require foreign coaches to have a certain level of Rep as well as adaptation coaching skill.

Currently you would likely only be able to get a different US 4.x team.

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Am I the only one who didn't earn RP and XP for the game today?
No one did. It seems like the game was counted as a preseason game. The standings weren't even updated.

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12-06-2010, 08:08 PM
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Ah, Val. You gorgeous son of a *****.

I hope he is at least somewhat useful for you.

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36 stamina, ew.
Yeah, for some reason I made the trade for him without looking at stamina. He was a nice 4th liner who got some PP time last season for me though. His other skills are solid.

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Thankfully my offensive players are set. The couple of wingers I am targeting are defensive oriented and, so far, have slipped under the radar.
I built a whole new line of defensive players for ~$2 mil. They're super cheap right now. People seem to overlook defensive players entirely.

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Am I the only one who didn't earn RP and XP for the game today?
Nobody did. The matches seem to be in preseason mode for everything but stat keeping.

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12-06-2010, 08:12 PM
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Ah, Val. You gorgeous son of a *****.

I hope he is at least somewhat useful for you.
I have a ******** in cap space considering how much I've spent.

I'll get two more defensive players and end up cutting some more dead weight, too.

A solid 3/4 line means that you can shadow your opponents best lines 2/3rds of each game. That's ****ing huge.

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12-06-2010, 08:27 PM
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I just made this trade. I went center happy in FA. Im so used to not having good Centers that I went out and got a bunch when I already had decent centers. This guy was literally 6th on my depth chart and the oldest center in the lineup is only 28 so he wouldnt be playing for at least 3 seasons.

I trade:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=684566

I get:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=575949

I also needed a dman pretty bad after making that hug trade which sent my 84 EPA RD for a LW today. I like this guy, he's pretty solid.

Who wins this one?

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12-06-2010, 08:40 PM
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I had 6 goals this offseason:

1) get younger on offense

traded for:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650332
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=358680

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=326190

(only one forward in my top 9 is 29+ now, and only 3 are 28+)

2) improve goaltending

traded for:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=336880

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=636673

(my backup goalie is better than my starter last year, haha)

3) create a hard hitting, defensive 4th line

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=288810
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=292009
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=118361

(all >70 hitting with 2 having >80 hitting - set their line to brutal)

4) restock the prospect cupboard

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=771686
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=712669
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=712514
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=773169
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=711479

(all gained > 20 TI in both the first training sessions with 2 guys > 35 TI in both)

5) move low stam players

traded away:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=479370

(my entire top 6 forwards who play the PP all have > 75 stam now)

6) improve defensive depth

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=315161
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=278667
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=288927

(don't have a single dman under 70 EPA in my top 10, with my top 4 all having > 78 EPA)
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After looking through 3.2 I now have the 2nd best goalie in the league (very close), the best defense in the league (not that close) and the best offense in the league (kind of close). I also still have my entire wage flex so that I can poach computer cut FA's a week from now.

While my initial plans didn't fully work for this offseason due to the hindrance of the various bugs that occurred this past week, I still managed to pull off a very successful offseason with shrewd signings and fair trades, imo.

Last season felt like I was riding the coattails of my team's previous managers, with only having made a few 'tweaks' to put me over the top. This season and the seasons to come; however, thanks to the opening of FA, have a VERY defined mark on them left by me.

I feel like winning this year will be even sweeter now.

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12-06-2010, 09:00 PM
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What do you guys think of my defensive 3rd line? I set it up to go against other team's top lines while still being able to chip in some goals.

LW:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=684565

C:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=319853

RW:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=315543

Backup winger:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=419619

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12-06-2010, 09:02 PM
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I had 6 goals this offseason:

1) get younger on offense

traded for:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=650332
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=358680

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=326190

(only one forward in my top 9 is 29+ now, and only 3 are 28+)

2) improve goaltending

traded for:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=336880

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=636673

(my backup goalie is better than my starter last year, haha)

3) create a hard hitting, defensive 4th line

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=288810
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=292009
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=118361

(all >70 hitting with 2 having >80 hitting - set their line to brutal)

4) restock the prospect cupboard

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=771686
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=712669
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=712514
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=773169
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=711479

(all gained > 20 TI in both the first training sessions with 2 guys > 35 TI in both)

5) move low stam players

traded away:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=479370

(my entire top 6 forwards who play the PP all have > 75 stam now)

6) improve defensive depth

signed:
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=315161
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=278667
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=288927

(don't have a single dman under 70 EPA in my top 10, with my top 4 all having > 78 EPA)
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After looking through 3.2 I now have the 2nd best goalie in the league (very close), the best defense in the league (not that close) and the best offense in the league (kind of close). I also still have my entire wage flex so that I can poach computer cut FA's a week from now.

While my initial plans didn't fully work for this offseason due to the hindrance of the various bugs that occurred this past week, I still managed to pull off a very successful offseason with shrewd signings and fair trades, imo.

Last season felt like I was riding the coattails of my team's previous managers, with only having made a few 'tweaks' to put me over the top. This season and the seasons to come; however, thanks to the opening of FA, have a VERY defined mark on them left by me.

I feel like winning this year will be even sweeter now.
enjoy j.o'neil mate hope he does well for you. bit gutted he has gone but needed to get younger.

BTW am i doing training wrong cos the highest TI i ever get is 11 and I have some really good youngsters.... even that H. Schauffelberger that you traded me only got 9 TI in todays training report

is it my coaches, training methods or the fact im in 4.2??

please help as i want my good young studs to reach their potential

BTW the training is on full intensity and the bar says 57%

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12-06-2010, 09:33 PM
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enjoy j.o'neil mate hope he does well for you. bit gutted he has gone but needed to get younger.

BTW am i doing training wrong cos the highest TI i ever get is 11 and I have some really good youngsters.... even that H. Schauffelberger that you traded me only got 9 TI in todays training report

is it my coaches, training methods or the fact im in 4.2??

please help as i want my good young studs to reach their potential

BTW the training is on full intensity and the bar says 57%
Training is based 50% on the player's inate abilites and 25% on your assistant coach's abilites (the last 25% is an as of yet unimplemented practice facility)

Players generally hit their blooms between ages 16-24 which is generally a 2 year period which they gain their most TI. Something I have noticed is that some players bloom (30+ TI) for awhile, stop blooming (10+ TI for awhile) and then bloom again (30+ TI for awhile), this happened one of my dmen last season.

Also, players continue to gain TI usually until they are 26, it tapers off around 28 and then they begin declining after that.

I assumed that Schauf was in a similar training "rut" which he should break out of soon for the last bit of his bloom, but worst case scenario even if he doesn't he should gain 10-15 TI per training session for the next few seasons and still gain 5 or 6 AVG points from where he is now. I project his EPA to be anywhere from 70-75 at 99/99 by the time he is 26, but what makes him special is that even at his current (fairly low) average he has great stam and good offensive stats, so his EPA may not be entirely indicative of how good of an offensive player he will be.

Of course, it seems that young player are completely subjective and can screw you as easily as they can surprise you. I have 2 21 year old dmen that gain ZERO TI every training session. They are both already good enough to be starters, but they are also 4-5 points from their TRV and it really annoys me that they don't gain a single TI on intense training.

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Rookie ******* who talks like his **** doesn't stink's comment:

J. C. Murray
I think comments like Mr. Vanek's are so welcome. It is good to see a veteran of this game express what I was thinking. There is a huge difference between complaining born out of a rampant sense of entitlement versus a solid, constructive, positive suggestion or observation of a tweak that remains to be accomplished.

Thank you, Mr. Vanek. Thank you very much, and best of luck with your season.

J-C.

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My "friendly" rebuttal:

I'm sorry, how was Osiris' comment not solid, constructive or positive? Was it any less so than any of your posts which have largely been made without a firm grasp of this game as of yet? You post opinions as if doctrine and then in your very next breath ask a question about game mechanics.

I took the time to learn this game and feel my way around before I started vocalizing my opinions because, otherwise, you look foolish.

Also, as a friendly reminder, make sure to wipe your nose off after every post.

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