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03-31-2014, 08:56 AM
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Why did the Avs ever get rid of him?

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Why did the Avs ever get rid of him?
All coaches have a shelf life in all Professional Sports.

Coach Q is no doubt a fine head coach, as proven by his 2 Stanley Cup's as Head Coach of the Blackhawks, but he was also let go from St. Louis before us as well.

This is the one thing that has me worried as an Avs fan, when/if the day ever comes that the players stop playing for Roy and he'd have to go...because at that time I don't think he keeps his Management title with us, I believe he fully moves on.

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He left on his own accord.

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All coaches have a shelf life in all Professional Sports.

Coach Q is no doubt a fine head coach, as proven by his 2 Stanley Cup's as Head Coach of the Blackhawks, but he was also let go from St. Louis before us as well.

This is the one thing that has me worried as an Avs fan, when/if the day ever comes that the players stop playing for Roy and he'd have to go...because at that time I don't think he keeps his Management title with us, I believe he fully moves on.
The day may come when Roy abandons reason for madness, but it is not this day.

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He left on his own accord.
While true, I don't believe the Avs made any real attempts to keep him either.

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While true, I don't believe the Avs made any real attempts to keep him either.
He wouldn't have stayed either way, I remember he said that the FO thinks the kids on the team and the team itself is much better than they really are and you could say he was right.

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03-31-2014, 10:01 AM
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It's hard to say it was a mistake... certainly hiring Granato to replace him (and then Sacco after that) was a mistake.... Q would have gotten more out of this team in those five years... but how much more? Probably just enough to assure that the Avs would not have been able to draft Duchene, Landeskog and MacKinninon. It took those drafts for the Avs to start approaching icing the type of roster Q has been able to coach in Chicago.


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Something that i will always remember about Q it's us Constantly Complaining about how he was dealing with our Goaltenders . Other than that, he's one of the good coach that we had , it's just some bad luck for him when we missed the playoffs despite having a 100 points season .

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He left because of the Lacroixs. And I can't say I blame him.

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I think the talk was there was a "difference of opinion" in how the team should play, whether they should play the young kids more, and which goalies to play.

Eric Lacroix meddling is my guess, but I also don't think Q employed a great strategy for the team. It was pretty much 100% below the goal line cycling. Basically had the whole team play like Andrew Brunette. When it got shut down, they didn't adjust at all and had no success.

I think Q learned a lot from that, and obviously had a younger and more talented roster to work with in Chicago.

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Something that i will always remember about Q it's us Constantly Complaining about how he was dealing with our Goaltenders . Other than that, he's one of the good coach that we had , it's just some bad luck for him when we missed the playoffs despite having a 100 points season .
With 100 points we would have been in playoffs for sure that season (06/07). Problem is we didn't have 100pts, but 95.

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He left on his own. He was not well liked by fans, though.

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All coaches have a shelf life in all Professional Sports.

Coach Q is no doubt a fine head coach, as proven by his 2 Stanley Cup's as Head Coach of the Blackhawks, but he was also let go from St. Louis before us as well.

This is the one thing that has me worried as an Avs fan, when/if the day ever comes that the players stop playing for Roy and he'd have to go...because at that time I don't think he keeps his Management title with us, I believe he fully moves on.
You never know. That could be 8-10 years down the road. Roy could have changed his mindset by then, and be more content with a traditional GM type role only.

With the success they've had this year, how popular he is, and his relationship with Sakic, I don't think they're letting him go any time soon. He'd have to have been bad from the start, or have multiple bad years in a row. With the team getting older and better, they'll likely stay pretty competitive.

That will make it pretty tough for Sakic to replace his buddy. I think the most likely end to his run behind the bench, will be him stepping aside himself, and taking a role in management.

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He contributed mightily to his failure here

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You never know. That could be 8-10 years down the road. Roy could have changed his mindset by then, and be more content with a traditional GM type role only.

With the success they've had this year, how popular he is, and his relationship with Sakic, I don't think they're letting him go any time soon. He'd have to have been bad from the start, or have multiple bad years in a row. With the team getting older and better, they'll likely stay pretty competitive.

That will make it pretty tough for Sakic to replace his buddy. I think the most likely end to his run behind the bench, will be him stepping aside himself, and taking a role in management.
I agree. Funny thing is Canadian media thinks he'll just get sick of Denver and his true destiny is to coach and GM the Habs.

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I agree. Funny thing is Canadian media thinks he'll just get sick of Denver and his true destiny is to coach and GM the Habs.
i believe the words were : Let him learn how to coach in the NHL, make his mistakes with the Avs and after he gets fired in about 3 years, he will be ready to coach the Habs. I heard that a few times in the Québec media , when he was named with the Avs .

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it was "Time for a line change!"

He wanted a GMC.

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i believe the words were : Let him learn how to coach in the NHL, make his mistakes with the Avs and after he gets fired in about 3 years, he will be ready to coach the Habs. I heard that a few times in the Québec media , when he was named with the Avs .
We kept hearing that about McDaniels too.


Anyway, a sense of entitlement from Canadian hockey?!

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We kept hearing that about McDaniels too.


Anyway, a sense of entitlement from Canadian hockey?!
Well , they also said the same thing about Guy Boucher with Tampa

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It's too early to judge Roy. But between Coach Q and Hartley, who was the best coach in Avs history?

If you said Sacco, you win!

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It's too early to judge Roy. But between Coach Q and Hartley, who was the best coach in Avs history?

If you said Sacco, you win!
That's pretty easy based on results, and Q's lack of success. Totally different teams, but you still have to give the edge to Hartley. In terms of Avs history.

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That's pretty easy based on results, and Q's lack of success. Totally different teams, but you still have to give the edge to Hartley. In terms of Avs history.
I get that, but if we were to try to ignore results and just try to judge who was the better coach during their time with the Avs. Q got a lot out of fairly weak teams.

Crawford also coached a Stanley Cup winner. Was he better than Q too?

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All I remember about Q's tenure here was the goalie situation being bad and playing Ryan Smyth on the PP....behind the net. Smyth scored 1 deflection goal on the PP his entire time here.

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I get that, but if we were to try to ignore results and just try to judge who was the better coach during their time with the Avs. Q got a lot out of fairly weak teams.

Crawford also coached a Stanley Cup winner. Was he better than Q too?
Hartley was good just never could out coach the Hitchcock

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