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02-16-2015, 10:13 AM
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I'm guessing he's only up because there's some sort of injury/illness to either Tuukka or Svedberg.

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That's my best guess. We'll have to wait and see the official release. If someone's sick/hurt it'll be an emergency recall (I think?)

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I just want to see the guy play.

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Hope Tuukka is okay. They'll have to ride him just to get into the playoffs.

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Make him play Wednesady night against Edmonton

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Hmmmm....potentially interesting if there winds up being nothing wrong with Tuukka or NS

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Huge trade chip for the Bruins, Rask will be 28 in less than a month and is signed to a long term deal. I just hope he isn't traded for something non substantial.

Hopefully they play him Wednesday and is part of an Eberle deal so they showcase him to the Oilers.

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Huge trade chip for the Bruins, Rask will be 28 in less than a month and is signed to a long term deal. I just hope he isn't traded for something non substantial.

Hopefully they play him Wednesday and is part of an Eberle deal so they showcase him to the Oilers.
not sure if he plays it will be just to showcase him to the Oilers but I know what your saying

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Hmmmm....potentially interesting if there winds up being nothing wrong with Tuukka or NS
Both were on-ice for the skate this morning. So who the heck knows...

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Both were on-ice for the skate this morning. So who the heck knows...
can Svedberg play top 4 D minutes??

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can Svedberg play top 4 D minutes??
Doubt it, but Rask was sure trying to play D against the Canucks, seeing as how none of the actual DMen dress were doing the job.

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not sure if he plays it will be just to showcase him to the Oilers but I know what your saying
Why not, Subban will be buried in the AHL or only playing a few games behind Rask as a backup.

The guy is 21 so showcase him, if you get a great offer deal him, if it is for Stewart or some other plug, decline.

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Why not, Subban will be buried in the AHL or only playing a few games behind Rask as a backup.

The guy is 21 so showcase him, if you get a great offer deal him, if it is for Stewart or some other plug, decline.
On a team clinging to the 2nd wild card spot....albeit against the Oilers but...

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Why not, Subban will be buried in the AHL or only playing a few games behind Rask as a backup.

The guy is 21 so showcase him, if you get a great offer deal him, if it is for Stewart or some other plug, decline.
This was my thought process as well until Dom (I think it was Dom) mentioned that with an expansion draft coming up it would be smart for the Bruins to keep him on board to help protect Rask not sure how the details work.

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This was my thought process as well until Dom (I think it was Dom) mentioned that with an expansion draft coming up it would be smart for the Bruins to keep him on board to help protect Rask not sure how the details work.
Remind me why there might be an expansion draft? I don't recall hearing about this.

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This was my thought process as well until Dom (I think it was Dom) mentioned that with an expansion draft coming up it would be smart for the Bruins to keep him on board to help protect Rask not sure how the details work.
I've read the details and they can protect Rask 100%.

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Remind me why there might be an expansion draft? I don't recall hearing about this.
because the NHL doesn't know to stop expanding. I don't know the details but I have heard from more then a few people to expect one in the not to distant future.

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I've read the details and they can protect Rask 100%.
you mean they can protect him 100% even if they trade Subban? Good to know I don't know the details behind it just remember reading it hear that they would be smart to keep him to protect Rask.

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yeah I'm confused about what Dom was talking about exactly.

The last time the expansion happend, a GM could protect one goalie, five defensemen and nine forwards or protect two goalies, three defensemen and seven forwards.

In today's NHL, that means it's COMPLETELY impossible to protect two goalies. You'd never ever expose half your blueliners to the expansion draft like that. So knowing that Pete could protect one goalie, 5D and 9 forwards, the reason it's smarter to keep Subban is simple: you plan to groom him until the year before expansion is announced, and if he's the real deal, you trade Rask just before the expansion draft.

However if as a GM you are sticking with Rask till his late 30's, then it's the opposite. You have to trade Subban, or you're a near lock to lose him to expansion.

Only Chia knows which of those options he prefers, but in both cases he's not committed to deciding this year. I'd hold on to Subban myself.

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yeah I'm confused about what Dom was talking about exactly.

The last time the expansion happend, a GM could protect one goalie, five defensemen and nine forwards or protect two goalies, three defensemen and seven forwards.

In today's NHL, that means it's COMPLETELY impossible to protect two goalies. You'd never ever expose half your blueliners to the expansion draft like that. So knowing that Pete could protect one goalie, 5D and 9 forwards, the reason it's smarter to keep Subban is simple: you plan to groom him until the year before expansion is announced, and if he's the real deal, you trade Rask just before the expansion draft.

However if as a GM you are sticking with Rask till his late 30's, then it's the opposite. You have to trade Subban, or you're a near lock to lose him to expansion.

Only Chia knows which of those options he prefers, but in both cases he's not committed to deciding this year. I'd hold on to Subban myself.
Contract Notes:

No Move Clause: 2013-2016
8 Team No Trade Clause: 2017-2018
15 Team No Trade Clause: 2018-2020
rask's contract info.

I have a hard time believing chia tades his vezina winner goalie when he is getting to his prime.

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Contract Notes:

No Move Clause: 2013-2016
8 Team No Trade Clause: 2017-2018
15 Team No Trade Clause: 2018-2020
rask's contract info.

I have a hard time believing chia tades his vezina winner goalie when he is getting to his prime.
Gotta keep in mind that an NMC or NTC is contingent on the player saying no. They don't always say no.

Also expansion in 2017 sounds about right. 8 team NTC is not that scary to work around.

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Gotta keep in mind that an NMC or NTC is contingent on the player saying no. They don't always say no.

Also expansion in 2017 sounds about right. 8 team NTC is not that scary to work around.
But it would be a huge risk to trade your under 30-year old vezina winner and put the pressure on 23 year old rookie.

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But it would be a huge risk to trade your under 30-year old vezina winner and put the pressure on 23 year old rookie.
Depends if that 23 year old has 2 years of NHL experience under his belt by then. Looks like that would be the case.

Hey eventually it's all about the cap right? That money gets spent elsewhere. Maybe you throw it at a franchise Dman...

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Depends if that 23 year old has 2 years of NHL experience under his belt by then. Looks like that would be the case.

Hey eventually it's all about the cap right? That money gets spent elsewhere. Maybe you throw it at a franchise Dman...
Chara and seids are gone then so you get the money.

Rask trade would either mean that he asks for it or they are rebuilding.

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