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12-01-2010, 03:08 PM
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He's untouchable. Burke won't trade him.
Your goon is untouchable? Considering he can only fight, if someone offers anything decent for him(ie. picks or an actual hockey player), he's gone.

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12-01-2010, 03:11 PM
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as a fan of him last year and with the off season trade for a measily 5th for The warrior in Mike Brown i feel the need that we dont need Orr anymore what team needs a fighter? what are you willing to give up for him?
Brown and Orr are not exactly in the same "weight" division. Neither would fetch anything of value so whats the point?

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12-01-2010, 03:13 PM
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Your goon is untouchable? Considering he can only fight, if someone offers anything decent for him(ie. picks or an actual hockey player), he's gone.
But nobody will

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12-01-2010, 04:26 PM
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I would rather have Colton Orr than any other enforcer in the league.

While he doesn't win em all, he is by far the most exciting of all the heavyweights. His style is old school...stand back and chuck em! He will take one or two to give one. And when he gives one...LIGHTS-OUT!

Orr though to me is a true example of an enforcer that
1) abides by the code.
2) puts his teammates before himself.
3) Always...always does his job.
4) Fought to "win", and not to "not look bad"

He's the type of player that will only fight other teams enforcers, unless the other teams enforcer won't fight him. Then its open game. He can intimidate, he plays hard even though he still an ankle-bender!

I was pissed the day he left NY, and furious that Sather didn't re sign him. Later the reasons surfaced that Tortorella and I quote "wanted a guy that could play a regular shift, and enforce as well" ...Lol, enter Donald Brashear and a prime example of number 2 and number 4 on my list above. Plus, while he was maybe a better overall player, he just truly didn't play nearly as hard as Orr did.

So mistake made, Organization pays but leaving an exhorbitant salary in the AHL, and Henrik getting run consistently since Orr's departure.

This year, Boogaard is doing a pretty good job for the Rangers as enforcer. Even though Prust does most of the fighting, Boogaard is there when needed and I like him here. But, if I was GM for a day, I will take Orr all day long over Boogey. Even if the salary was even.

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12-01-2010, 04:37 PM
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Colton Orr is very good at what he does... and thats enforcing fear into the other team, creating energy, and can even chip in with a goal now and then. Isn't that what you want for a 4th liner? He rarely takes stupid penalties either. Your discrediting Colton Orr...
I love Orr just as much as any Leaf fan but do you seriously believe this?

btw look what we got Brown for. Now minus the skating, PK skills, shot blocking and add fighting and you have got Orr's vaule. Probably around a 5th or 6th round pick.

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12-01-2010, 06:51 PM
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People are too critical of Gilroy; that said, he's not untouchable.

something like Gilroy and a 5th for Orr and a 3rd?

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12-01-2010, 07:00 PM
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Colton Orr is one of the few fighters that has some offensive ability and isn't liable defensively. I think he had the PK spot before Brown came along. I wouldn't trade him, he reminds me of Domi.

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12-01-2010, 10:00 PM
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And then give him a 20 year contract

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as a fan of him last year and with the off season trade for a measily 5th for The warrior in Mike Brown i feel the need that we dont need Orr anymore what team needs a fighter? what are you willing to give up for him?
too bad Burke is your GM. If he was somewhere else, he'd probably offer a 2nd.

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as a fan of him last year and with the off season trade for a measily 5th for The warrior in Mike Brown i feel the need that we dont need Orr anymore what team needs a fighter? what are you willing to give up for him?
not getting dealt, no chance

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5th or 6th round draft pick.. Same as McGrattan would've gotten you 2-3 years ago..

He's a horrible hockey player can't skate and plays 3-4 mins a game.. most tough guy's in todays NHL can contribute, see; Downie, Carkner, Neil, Avery etc.. He is completely 1 dimensional like McGrattan

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12-02-2010, 08:26 AM
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Um Boogieman, McIntyre can't skate also but I'd love having one of these in red & white.

If you take out the enforcers, hockey will miss something. I really like Orr, hes oldschool and hes not a ***** like Perry (picking non fighters, lady bing winners AND loses...). So would I want on him on the Wings? Absolutely for the right price.

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12-02-2010, 09:55 AM
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Well u will need Orr now....now that Brown is out with his hand injury

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Colton Orr is one of the few fighters that has some offensive ability and isn't liable defensively. I think he had the PK spot before Brown came along. I wouldn't trade him, he reminds me of Domi.


Seriously, he is one of if not the worst offensive players in the NHL. If he didnt fight, he probably wouldnt make it in the AHL.

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12-02-2010, 11:28 AM
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And then give him a 20 year contract
uncle...you win

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dibeneditto and a 6th?

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Colton Orr is one of the few fighters that has some offensive ability and isn't liable defensively. I think he had the PK spot before Brown came along. I wouldn't trade him, he reminds me of Domi.
Granted he's not as bad offensively as Belak was but come on. He has 10 goals and 19 points....that's not his best season, that's his career totals over 350 games.

He had a career year last year and he netted an astounding 6 points.

Scoring should never enter the equation in this Orr can do. If he finished the season with 0 goals and 0 assists but still did what he did in terms of energy, fighting, and the occasional forecheck, I'd be happy with him.

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Colton Orr is one of the few fighters that has some offensive ability and isn't liable defensively. I think he had the PK spot before Brown came along. I wouldn't trade him, he reminds me of Domi.
WHAT??!

I like Orr, but come on. You'd be lucky to have a 50% kill rate with him out there.

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12-02-2010, 02:12 PM
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12-02-2010, 02:14 PM
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Just to settle the Orr PK debate.

He has amassed 4:25 of PK time. That's not his average per game...or even per season. That's his career total time spent on the PK over 350 games. And I can almost guarantee that it all came at the end of random shifts at the very end of the PK. Like when his team had iced the puck with 10 seconds left and they make a last line change in prep for the guy coming out of the box.

He has killed barely over 2 penalties in his entire career. It's an average half a penalty per 82 games played.

Even by the most remote stretches of the imagination that doesn't make him a PKer

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12-02-2010, 02:16 PM
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other than fighting, he's a useless 1million dollar tripod

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12-02-2010, 02:18 PM
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Orr has no value. Enforcers and Heavy Weights are a dying breed.. teams are switching over to middle weights that offer more..

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Orr has no value. Enforcers and Heavy Weights are a dying breed.. teams are switching over to middle weights that offer more..
I guess it depends on your definition of an enforcer and a heavy weight. As a sens fan, I still consider Neil to be a enforcer and to some extent a heavyweight. Every team wishes that they had either Neil or a player like him. Hell even Ottawa wishes they had a player like him coming up through the system.

Lucic is another example of a player like that.

On the other hand, enforcers that can only fight and can't play hockey are a dying breed. Any kind of player that you wouldn't play in the playoffs is a dying breed.

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I guess it depends on your definition of an enforcer and a heavy weight. As a sens fan, I still consider Neil to be a enforcer and to some extent a heavyweight. Every team wishes that they had either Neil or a player like him. Hell even Ottawa wishes they had a player like him coming up through the system.

Lucic is another example of a player like that.

On the other hand, enforcers that can only fight and can't play hockey are a dying breed. Any kind of player that you wouldn't play in the playoffs is a dying breed.
Neither Neil nor Lucic are heavy weights.

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