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I haven't been on the boards in a while, so I apologize if this has already been covered.
What are the chances that the Leafs target the once 30 goal scorer from the Thrashers. He would be a solid #2 centre down the road and has potential to score goals and that's the Leafs biggest need.
In return, the Leafs would have to give up Komisarek/Beauchemin plus a guy like Sjostrom/Brent and a late round draft pick.
To Toronto:
Bryan Little
To Atlanta:
Mike Komisarek
Tim Brent
5th Round Pick
I would think Atl value Little more then that offer. Depending on chemistry of coarse, Komi doesn't improve their top 4, so I don't think you move a young player with offensive upside for an expensive 3rd pairing guy and spare parts.
Maybe an Atl fan can correct me but I don't see the Thrashers in a huge need for defensemen right now
I think Atl could use a player like Komi, but not at the cost of Little - I could be wrong, but I think the D pairings in Atl are Buf / Enstrom, Bogo / Oduya, Hainsey/Sopel
If Atl made a move for a defensive dman they would need to move out one of Hainsey or Sopel - hard to say what they would be willing to move to bring in Komi
Atlanta doesnt need dmen, just like Toronto doesnt need them.
I believe they're looking for a scoring winger themselves.
They just dont make good trading partners.
if Toronto were to offer Beauch and Bozak for Little would Atlanta fans do this considering Beauch could take Buffs spot on the blueline and he can go back to forward to fill that big scoring spot on the wing You guys need
I think Atl could use a player like Komi, but not at the cost of Little - I could be wrong, but I think the D pairings in Atl are Buf / Enstrom, Bogo / Oduya, Hainsey/Sopel
If Atl made a move for a defensive dman they would need to move out one of Hainsey or Sopel - hard to say what they would be willing to move to bring in Komi
Komisarek is at best only better than Sopel ... Unless the Thrash are rolling in money and cap space I don't see why they would move out Sopel to bring in Komisarek
if Toronto were to offer Beauch and Bozak for Little would Atlanta fans do this considering Beauch could take Buffs spot on the blueline and he can go back to forward to fill that big scoring spot on the wing You guys need
might make sense if Buf wasn't the early norris trophy leader...can't see them moving him up front now
I haven't been on the boards in a while, so I apologize if this has already been covered.
What are the chances that the Leafs target the once 30 goal scorer from the Thrashers. He would be a solid #2 centre down the road and has potential to score goals and that's the Leafs biggest need.
In return, the Leafs would have to give up Komisarek/Beauchemin plus a guy like Sjostrom/Brent and a late round draft pick.
To Toronto:
Bryan Little
To Atlanta:
Mike Komisarek
Tim Brent
5th Round Pick
I'd be very surprised if Atlanta is on the list of teams Komisarek would accept a trade to.
The Thrashers have about 15 mill. in cap space left, so they can take on a lot of coin.
The reason that I say that they would want to get rid of Little, is because they have 3 other centremen that are outscoring him (Peverley, Antropov and Burmistrov). It seems as tho, they have some young guys stepping up and with Buff, Ladd, Bergfors and Bogosian all due raises at the end of the year, they would love to tie all of those guys. I'm not sure if Little would fit in their plans with guys like Cormier and Leville close to being NHL ready.
I think they want to put guys in the line-up that can win now and have veteran leadership. They also have the flexibility to move Buff up to forward if they needed too.
Tell me why that wouldn't be a good place to start?
1. Kaberle is UFA.
2. We are loaded with puck-moving defensemen.
3. Even if Kaberle wasn't a UFA and we weren't loaded with puck-moving defensemen, you're asking for one of our most promising young forwards, a future tough lower-line guy AND a prospect that is expected to be a pretty good d-man.
Leafs should have traded Kaberle at last year's deadline or last summer. Even if we had the need for a player like him, we're not looking to shoot ourselves in the foot for a UFA.
1. Kaberle is UFA.
2. We are loaded with puck-moving defensemen.
3. Even if Kaberle wasn't a UFA and we weren't loaded with puck-moving defensemen, you're asking for one of our most promising young forwards, a future tough lower-line guy AND a prospect that is expected to be a pretty good d-man.
Leafs should have traded Kaberle at last year's deadline or last summer. Even if we had the need for a player like him, we're not looking to shoot ourselves in the foot for a UFA.
1. It doesn't matter if Kaberle is a UFA. You get first dibs to sign him and you will need a guy with experience on the blueline if you go on a playoff run.
2. Loaded with puck moving d-men? I'd say the Enstrom and with a stretch, Bogosian. Buff is a forward too, so I'm not really going to count him there.
3. I'm not sure which player you are referring too for each point. Little is underperforming as I mentioned and is being ousted by 3 other centremen. Leville is about 2-3 years away and ATL has enough prospects and has been terrible enough over the years that they could afford to get rid of him. Riley Hozapfel was a great junior player and they left him in the minors to be a career AHL'er.
4. Kaberle is an all-star and would be the best defenceman on either blueline.
1. It doesn't matter if Kaberle is a UFA. You get first dibs to sign him and you will need a guy with experience on the blueline if you go on a playoff run.
2. Loaded with puck moving d-men? I'd say the Enstrom and with a stretch, Bogosian. Buff is a forward too, so I'm not really going to count him there.
3. I'm not sure which player you are referring too for each point. Little is underperforming as I mentioned and is being ousted by 3 other centremen. Leville is about 2-3 years away and ATL has enough prospects and has been terrible enough over the years that they could afford to get rid of him. Riley Hozapfel was a great junior player and they left him in the minors to be a career AHL'er.
4. Kaberle is an all-star and would be the best defenceman on either blueline.
Can you please just stop?
As a Leafs fan, I beg you.
You're making us look completely rediculous with continuously trying to justify why your proposal is a good one. Atlanta wouldnt even look at that proposal, so stop trying to sell them on it.
Its not a good proposal.
To top it all off, Kaberle isnt waiving to go to Atlanta, no matter how much Antropov begs him.
You're making us look completely rediculous with continuously trying to justify why your proposal is a good one. Atlanta wouldnt even look at that proposal, so stop trying to sell them on it.
1. It doesn't matter if Kaberle is a UFA. You get first dibs to sign him and you will need a guy with experience on the blueline if you go on a playoff run.
2. Loaded with puck moving d-men? I'd say the Enstrom and with a stretch, Bogosian. Buff is a forward too, so I'm not really going to count him there. No Hainsey?
3. I'm not sure which player you are referring too for each point. Little is underperforming as I mentioned and is being ousted by 3 other centremen. Leville is about 2-3 years away and ATL has enough prospects and has been terrible enough over the years that they could afford to get rid of him. Riley Hozapfel was a great junior player and they left him in the minors to be a career AHL'er.
4. Kaberle is an all-star and would be the best defenceman on either blueline.
You must be some young teen trying to defy the world. Because its getting rediculous.
Kaberle doesnt hold that much value at the moment. Not even close.
Little for Kaberle straight up would hardly get Atlantas attention. And I am a Leafs fan, but at least I have hockey knowledge.
Take a look at every Atlanta fans response in this thread and consider it and reconstruct a better trade. Because this one aint working for them, so stop trying to sell them on this. Even if you do try to reconstruct a trade to aquire Little, try making him the only pieces leaving Atlanta. LEAFS AND ATLANTA ARE NOT GOOD TRADING PARTNERS. Youre worse than jfried.
I think its wishful thinking on my part to get rid of Komisarek, but I'm not sure who the Leafs could give up as part of that deal.
I'm sure Bryan Little could be a start to a big trade that involves Tomas Kaberle.
Maybe something along the lines of:
To Atlanta:
Tomas Kaberle
To Toronto:
Bryan Little
Daulten Leville
Julian Melchiori
But, I think that you should hold on to Kaberle until the deadline and see if any team will overpay for him.
Kaberle has less value than Little alone right now, he is a UFA at the end of the season. Toronto won't get Little. The only piece that would entice the Thrashers to move Little, is Kessel.
You have to make trades to go anywhere in the playoffs. When was the last time that Atlanta made the playoffs and made it out of the 1st round??
Hainsey is GARBAGE!
Again, if you are going to be producing like a 3rd liner, then why would any team overpay for a player. He is 8th on the team in goals and 10th on the team in points.
Please look at the stats if you are going to run your mouth.
You must be some young teen trying to defy the world. Because its getting rediculous.
Kaberle doesnt hold that much value at the moment. Not even close.
Little for Kaberle straight up would hardly get Atlantas attention. And I am a Leafs fan, but at least I have hockey knowledge.
Take a look at every Atlanta fans response in this thread and consider it and reconstruct a better trade. Because this one aint working for them, so stop trying to sell them on this. Even if you do try to reconstruct a trade to aquire Little, try making him the only pieces leaving Atlanta. LEAFS AND ATLANTA ARE NOT GOOD TRADING PARTNERS. Youre worse than jfried.
Take a look at the Thrashers fans that sell out 1 game a year? Please. You are the typical Leafs fan that thinks because the Leafs team isn't winning, their value counts for less. How many all-star games has Kaberle been too? And why a couple years ago would he fetch Jeff Carter from Philly?
You have to make trades to go anywhere in the playoffs. When was the last time that Atlanta made the playoffs and made it out of the 1st round??
Hainsey is GARBAGE!
Again, if you are going to be producing like a 3rd liner, then why would any team overpay for a player. He is 8th on the team in goals and 10th on the team in points.
Please look at the stats if you are going to run your mouth.
Take a look at the Thrashers fans that sell out 1 game a year? Please. You are the typical Leafs fan that thinks because the Leafs team isn't winning, their value counts for less. How many all-star games has Kaberle been too? And why a couple years ago would he fetch Jeff Carter from Philly?
