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04-28-2013, 10:29 PM
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It is scary that EK is clearly not skating as strongly as pre-injury. Missing that incredible roadrunner take off from a standing start.
Give it time. If he actually could skate at his normal level this soon after that type of injury, the conspiracy theory wouldn't be about Matt Cooke's intent, it'd be about whether or not Karlsson was actually injured at all. That'd be a super-human recovery.

It's amazing he's even skating at all right now, let alone playing (and being a huge contributor at that). He'll be back to 100% eventually, but not during the playoffs. This doesn't appear to be likely to stop him from being our best player.

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04-28-2013, 10:39 PM
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Give it time. If he actually could skate at his normal level this soon after that type of injury, the conspiracy theory wouldn't be about Matt Cooke's intent, it'd be about whether or not Karlsson was actually injured at all. That'd be a super-human recovery.

It's amazing he's even skating at all right now, let alone playing (and being a huge contributor at that). He'll be back to 100% eventually, but not during the playoffs. This doesn't appear to be likely to stop him from being our best player.
For sure, full off season of work and time to heal. Rule of thumb with a major injury is that it takes a year for normal mortals so say 5-6 for EK!

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For sure, full off season of work and time to heal. Rule of thumb with a major injury is that it takes a year for normal mortals so say 5-6 for EK!
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His skating was better tonight I thought, he still had some give aways but I think thats just rust and his decision making should improve as he gets more comfortable

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Just noticed this, despite only being credited with 1 shot on net yesterday, Karlsson finished the year with the highest shots per game, narrowly edging out Ovechkin. Had he played a full 82 game season at this pace, he would have had 381 shots. That would have been the highest since 08/09 when Ovechkin went nuts with over 500. You have to go all the way back to 2000/01 to find someone not named Ovechkin to get over 381 shots (Pavel Bure).

Needless to say, the amount this guy shoots (and gets it on net) is unreal.

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So will karlsson regain 100% of his explosiveness and skating ability, or is this a permanent decrease? Somebody here with any real knowledge on this subject?

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04-29-2013, 02:35 PM
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So will karlsson regain 100% of his explosiveness and skating ability, or is this a permanent decrease? Somebody here with any real knowledge on this subject?
To know what will happen in the future we will first have to get there. Karlsson's conditioning was superb after the summer and the injury probably took some of that away. More healing, getting back his conditioning, and just time itself will help him for sure.

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04-29-2013, 02:38 PM
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So will karlsson regain 100% of his explosiveness and skating ability, or is this a permanent decrease? Somebody here with any real knowledge on this subject?
Nobody knows 100%.

But Karlsson believes it will come back, the doctors seemed to think it would be fine, and Sami Salo who had a very similar injury said it will be fine. So I'd guess it will be.

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04-29-2013, 02:39 PM
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I still love it when the forechecker forces him out from behind the net. He turns on the afterburners.

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So will karlsson regain 100% of his explosiveness and skating ability, or is this a permanent decrease? Somebody here with any real knowledge on this subject?
I won't say I'm an expert or anything, but I have medical training and am married to someone who does as well.

You don't know 100% if it will come back. But you won't know for months if it does. Muscle needs to be worked constantly to stay strong. With Karlsson unable to even walk for weeks, he would have lost all muscle in that leg (ok not all, but for a professional athlete it will have been incredibly significant). That muscle needs time to rebuild and rebulk, and that will take months and months to do (I'd say in the area of 6 months).

Personally, I would think it will likely come back, but not this season.

People need to stop complaining about his explosiveness at this point, and realize that he is months ahead of schedule, and that it will still take months to regain all that muscle he lost. If its still gone through next season, I'd probably worry.

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04-29-2013, 11:02 PM
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EK has looked fantastic his first few games back, it's really all about timing now and doing the little things that make him such an effective player. He looked like he was starting to get pretty comfortable toward the end of the Philly game and the Boston game. The explosiveness and extra stride in his skating will come, the intensity will increase in the playoffs and his passes will continue to get more crisp....his shot is as good as ever.

With such a gifted player, I really don't think there is any concern of how much EK can contribute, it's really just a matter of how much he can handle and how fast.

He'll be playing 30 mins a game in the playoffs, on every PP, PK, and taking 6-7 shots a game.

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04-30-2013, 09:58 AM
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I hope the Sens have a dedicated team of slaves massaging his tendon and feeding him grapes.

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Karlsson wouldn't have made this pass if he didn't think he had the wheels to get back:

That pass

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Karlsson wouldn't have made this pass if he didn't think he had the wheels to get back:

That pass

No.

DAT pass!

I want moar slap passes.

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Karlsson wouldn't have made this pass if he didn't think he had the wheels to get back:

That pass
props to methot for recieving that pass cleanly

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Obvious bump

So far, Karlsson has shown great post-season stats:

Game Goals Assists Points Plus/Minus Shots TOI
#1112+3529:11
#2000-1229:38
#3022+1228:04
#4011+1328:02
#5011+1119:12
Total (5 games played)156+51326:49

However, bad turnovers, sloppy back-checking, and passive defence make him look like Karlsson of 2010-2011. Could it be related his injury still plaguing him, or having difficulty readjusting to NHL pace?

In either case, putting these numbers up only 11 weeks after lacerating his achilles is phenomenal. Still, I feel he may have come back too soon.


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Obvious bump

So far, Karlsson has shown great post-season stats:

Game Goals Assists Points Plus/Minus Shots TOI
#1112+3529:11
#2000-1229:38
#3022+3228:04
Total (3 games played)134+5928:58

However, bad turnovers, sloppy back-checking, and passive defence make him look like Karlsson of 2010-2011. Could it be related his injury still plaguing him, or having difficulty readjusting to NHL pace?

In either case, putting these numbers up only 11 weeks after lacerating his achilles is phenomenal. Still, I feel he may have come back too soon.
As much as I agree with the above, I think it merits mention that Karlsson was only +1 last game. I keep seeing +3 and a +5 overall but sadly he is slightly more mortal than that. But only slightly

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It's weird, his back-checking looks sloppy but 8 times out of 10 he comes out with the puck

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Obvious bump

So far, Karlsson has shown great post-season stats:

Game Goals Assists Points Plus/Minus Shots TOI
#1112+3529:11
#2000-1229:38
#3022+3228:04
Total (3 games played)134+5928:58

However, bad turnovers, sloppy back-checking, and passive defence make him look like Karlsson of 2010-2011. Could it be related his injury still plaguing him, or having difficulty readjusting to NHL pace?

In either case, putting these numbers up only 11 weeks after lacerating his achilles is phenomenal. Still, I feel he may have come back too soon.
He'll come around. Tomorrow will be just his seventh game back, and that's after having been out for months. And like you said, still putting up the numbers. I'm confident he'll reach his stride come next year.

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05-06-2013, 06:49 PM
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As much as I agree with the above, I think it merits mention that Karlsson was only +1 last game. I keep seeing +3 and a +5 overall but sadly he is slightly more mortal than that. But only slightly
Sorry about that... Yahoo! had the stats listed as +3.

I'll change it accordingly.

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Sorry about that... Yahoo! had the stats listed as +3.

I'll change it accordingly.
I think part of it was that last night, a lot of sites didn't have Pageau's third goal as a PP goal.

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I think EK played well in first game because he was inspired beyond belief....a few game later things have settled and he maybe starts to think a bit about the foot, hesitate a bit which makes him a bit passive. He said prior to start of playoffs that his biggest obstacle is to stop think about the injury. That and loss of strenght causes his subpar game so far.

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From what I have seen Karlsson has made a lot of mistakes & some brutal giveaways. That's the bad news, the good news is that Ottawa is still winning & when Karlsson gets more comfortable & gets his mojo back this team & specifically the PP should start rolling.

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First game I have been able to watch since his return, seems like he's at about 60% for skating. Doesn't have the quick step or top speed. That is really affecting his game.

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Obviously Karlsson isn't himself. His turning isn't what it was, and his speed isn't what it was, and that will come over time.

Personally, I have NO reason to believe he won't recover if he can play these kinds of minutes, isn't feeling any pain. He needs months++ to build back that leg, and it won't be happening this playoffs.

His turnovers and stuff, are a BIT of a concern, and I think he's a bit more hesitant than he typically is. But I think once his speed comes back, that hesitation will go, and he won't be making as bad decisions. Regardless, he's still been good.

I'll reserve my actually thoughts on Karlsson's healing until next season, when he has the opportunity to focus on strengthening that leg like crazy!

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