Intensity and a lack of any plan and or ability to deal with the media as a reasonable person. But none if it matters, he will always be one of my favorite players.....especially on Tecmo Bowl.
Hockey is different from a coaching standpoint because of the speed that the game is played in my opinion but there are similarities.
I agree with what your saying entirely but then I, and many others of us here have accepted this before the start of the season if not sooner and have sort of moved past your point. He's the wrong coach for what we are trying to do. Is he a good coach? I think that he is and can be. Is he the right coach for us today? Arguable. Is or has he lost the focus of his team? It seems so.
All the NHL'ers who are dating movie stars are struggling or have struggled...Avery had issues when he dated Elisha, Phaneuf hasn't been the same since he started hanging out with her, and Fisher hasn't been the same since he has become Mr. Underwood...
I had a high maintenance girlfriend who lived in OC and it took up most of my free time, I can imagine having a girlfriend who travels a lot or spends most of her time in another city and is a pop diva or movie star....I am sure this weighs on them.
But, on another note, Fisher is a lot meaner than Stoll and has scored more than 20 goals 4 times, where as Stoll has only done it once. If Stoll is a C student, Fisher is a B student....not an elite guy, but a step up.
On a side note though, I do like Stoll...he has a bit of that old school Oiler attitude....he competes every night, he takes big draws, he plays the point on the powerplay, he finishes checks, he seems well liked by his team mates.
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How is this a step up from Stoll? 4 more goals and 13 fewer points over 2.5 years? Now, Fisher is a step up from Handzus. If Dean could get Fisher for Handzus and a prospect/draft pick, I would be happy.
Kinda wish we were in on Wolski. A young talented left winger, signed to a nice deal, being tossed around the league for peanuts.
i dunno... you'd have to at least scratch your head over why Phoenix is dumping said young talented left winger, signed to a nice deal after less than 60 games played for them.
i dunno... you'd have to at least scratch your head over why Phoenix is dumping said young talented left winger, signed to a nice deal after less than 60 games played for them.
And there is no way they would move him to a Pacific division team. You have to look East for players to the Kings via trades.
And there is no way they would move him to a Pacific division team. You have to look East for players to the Kings via trades.
True enough, still bothers me nonetheless.
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i dunno... you'd have to at least scratch your head over why Phoenix is dumping said young talented left winger, signed to a nice deal after less than 60 games played for them.
Hockey is different from a coaching standpoint because of the speed that the game is played in my opinion but there are similarities.
Exactly. There are no timeouts (well, tv commercials help!), no out of bounds, no resets like the major stick and/or ball sports. It is most like soccer. The players, their effort, their grit, their decisions, make all the difference. The game is played at break neck speed, decisions - fundamentals - are made instinctively. That's why systems were developed, so players had an outlet, had a decision pre-programmed, whenever they get stuck.
There's nothing wrong with the system in place in LA. And, imho, there's nothing wrong with the coaching or management. What happens for young teams, for a franchise building a culture, is that the newest high level of play (see Detroit, Sharks game) has to become the players next "average game day". The higher level they showed in those two games is the new expectation and new baseline.
Moving from one baseline to another, to higher and higher levels, is a stair step - one step at a time. But there is a sine wave of ups and downs, overlapping that step by step progress, as the players and the team adjusts to the next level. It's the sine wave we pay attention to as fans, that's wins and losses. The stair step is a bigger picture - how is the team changing expectations and performance over the years. The Kings are a much much better franchise now. Better than they've ever been.
Detroit was in the doldrums for ten or twelve years until they became the elite franchise they are now. The Kings have turned it around in five or six years. Of course, we've had the advantage of better scouting and better trained athletes.
Anyway, longwinded (or typed) post. But that's where I'm coming from when I watch this team. And why I'm not as pessimistic as some.
Exactly. There are no timeouts (well, tv commercials help!), no out of bounds, no resets like the major stick and/or ball sports. It is most like soccer. The players, their effort, their grit, their decisions, make all the difference. The game is played at break neck speed, decisions - fundamentals - are made instinctively. That's why systems were developed, so players had an outlet, had a decision pre-programmed, whenever they get stuck.
There's nothing wrong with the system in place in LA. And, imho, there's nothing wrong with the coaching or management. What happens for young teams, for a franchise building a culture, is that the newest high level of play (see Detroit, Sharks game) has to become the players next "average game day". The higher level they showed in those two games is the new expectation and new baseline.
Moving from one baseline to another, to higher and higher levels, is a stair step - one step at a time. But there is a sine wave of ups and downs, overlapping that step by step progress, as the players and the team adjusts to the next level. It's the sine wave we pay attention to as fans, that's wins and losses. The stair step is a bigger picture - how is the team changing expectations and performance over the years. The Kings are a much much better franchise now. Better than they've ever been.
Detroit was in the doldrums for ten or twelve years until they became the elite franchise they are now. The Kings have turned it around in five or six years. Of course, we've had the advantage of better scouting and better trained athletes.
Anyway, longwinded (or typed) post. But that's where I'm coming from when I watch this team. And why I'm not as pessimistic as some.
Everyone here knows I agree with this. I guess the thing that surprises me the most is that folks expect a linear progression of success for a team whose best players are under 23 years of age.
We got a little spoiled last year because the kids took over and played like vets. This year they are playing like kids again. Kopitar, Doughty, Johnson, Simmonds, Clifford, and coming soon Schenn, Loktionov, Hickey, Moller (maybe) etc. - They will figure things out. Just be prepared for this team to possibly be even younger next season and have a bottle of your favorite anti-acid tablets near by.
Some folks act as if the Kings window is going to close real soon. Folks it is just now open a crack. The signing of Johnson to a long-term contract at a reasonable price was a very big step in the right direction. Keep the faith.
that one is probably a bit tougher to gauge, and i don't exactly remember what his contract status was at the time... meaning... or asking rather, was he primed to price himself out of a job there?
that one is probably a bit tougher to gauge, and i don't exactly remember what his contract status was at the time... meaning... or asking rather, was he primed to price himself out of a job there?
in the end, they made a pretty decent deal.
He was an RFA and in the end his cap hit went up by a Million. Just odd that a young team like that would give up one of the their leading young goal scorers
Oh good, we can expect the Semin to LA rumor to start up again.
Semin isn't playing tonight and didn't make the road trip with the Caps. He has a lower body injury. I'm hoping they're not there getting a look at Simon Gagne because it would be yet another reclamation project recovering from an injury who is struggling and has a former Flyers connection...
Lecavalier would be a welcome addition however (for the right price).
