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12-10-2010, 05:29 PM
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i see Filatov went down

How about Frolov , Gilroy for Tyutin

Rangers could use a Lefty Dman. they are taking an extra yr in the deal

Frolov is a UFA yrs end. Takes Filatov's spot. Gilroy is a RFA and takes Tyutins spot on D

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12-10-2010, 05:34 PM
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So, Filatov, a troubled Russian, gets sent down, and CBJ would want to replace him with....another troubled Russian?

They don't do this. Maybe something around Rozsival(not for Tyutin).

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biggest problem with this deal is Tyutin is the only player of any value - Frolov is playing poorly, Gilroy has been a disaster, and while Tyutin is having a down season, he's still playing over 20 min/gm and is a +1, I wouldn't trade him for the 2 players you're offering

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Frolov is rubbish, especially for a contract year.

Gilroy is a 6-7th D-man.

CLB knew what you were getting in Zherdev in the initial trade with Tyutin. They will keep their steal.

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12-10-2010, 07:09 PM
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0/168 on the proposal thingy, Vitto.

Nobody liked your Rozsival proposals during the summer.
Nobody liked your Grachev+Christensen proposals at the start of the year.
Nobody likes your Frolov+Gilroy proposals that you've been obsessed with recently.

You're not getting Richards for squat. You're not getting Toots for squat either. The 3-1's are usually going to get declined because people don't like trading away the best player in the deal. If it works on your PS3, it probably wouldn't go down in the real world.

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12-10-2010, 07:38 PM
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Huselius is coming off of LTIR, and Filatov could use top line minutes. That's why he was sent down. Essentially Huselius is going to take his spot.

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12-11-2010, 02:45 PM
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So, Filatov, a troubled Russian, gets sent down, and CBJ would want to replace him with....another troubled Russian?

They don't do this. Maybe something around Rozsival(not for Tyutin).
The problem is that Filatov is not a troubled Russian.
Huselius is coming back soon, we need not Frolov. But we can say about Dylan MacIlrath. Klesla and 4th draft pick for him.

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The problem is that Filatov is not a troubled Russian.
Huselius is coming back soon, we need not Frolov. But we can say about Dylan MacIlrath. Klesla and 4th draft pick for him.
Ew. No thank you.

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I'd take Toots back in a heartbeat, especially at that price. Especially since Vinny and Dru will be back soon and can slot right into the Frolov sized hole in our lineup (which honestly exists even when he is there).

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Tyutin is not the same player you guys remember.

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Tyutin is not the same player you guys remember.
either is Frolov, so we have a deal

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either is Frolov, so we have a deal
Fail.

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Just stop Vitto. No one wants Frolov or Gilroy.

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Just stop Vitto. No one wants Frolov or Gilroy.
fine i'll let u guys have your way but they said the same for Gomez and Higgins I bet

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fine i'll let u guys have your way but they said the same for Gomez and Higgins I bet
Your proposals are flat-out terrible, you never think about the other team's needs or wants.

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fine i'll let u guys have your way but they said the same for Gomez and Higgins I bet
I recall me saying both were tradeable, actually. Having in-depth discussions why.

You're proposals are all over the place. Same routine. Same scenario. Couple of struggling, crappy players for a good player. Those 2 or 3 for 1's.

You're not going to find (many) idiots here that don't know a bad deal when they see one. Stop looking for suckers.

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I recall me saying both were tradeable, actually. Having in-depth discussions why.

You're proposals are all over the place. Same routine. Same scenario. Couple of struggling, crappy players for a good player. Those 2 or 3 for 1's.

You're not going to find (many) idiots here that don't know a bad deal when they see one. Stop looking for suckers.
No mention of the PS3? I'm astonished.

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Never give up, Vitto! One day you will concoct the perfect trade!

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Never give up, Vitto! One day you will concoct the perfect trade!
That's my master plan!. I still say Tyutin to the Rangers makes sense perhaps for Rozsival. 5 million vs 3 million cap hit but same dollars next yr as Rozy gets paid 3 million and Jackets have cap space no?

Rozy, Gilroy, 2nd WSH pick for Tyutin and Hejda.......do it do it, lol

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That's my master plan!. I still say Tyutin to the Rangers makes sense perhaps for Rozsival. 5 million vs 3 million cap hit but same dollars next yr as Rozy gets paid 3 million and Jackets have cap space no?

Rozy, Gilroy, 2nd WSH pick for Tyutin and Hejda.......do it do it, lol
hmmmm don't know enough about gilroy to make a fair consensus, but i might be on board for that...

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i see Filatov went down

How about Frolov , Gilroy for Tyutin

Rangers could use a Lefty Dman. they are taking an extra yr in the deal

Frolov is a UFA yrs end. Takes Filatov's spot. Gilroy is a RFA and takes Tyutins spot on D

Every single time a Rangers fan makes a thread asking for Tyutin, they offer Frolov and Gilroy, usually adding a 3rd round pick.

Here's a thought. Columbus has no interest in Frolov or Gilroy.

I'll counter with Tytutin for Roszival + a 2nd round pick.

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hmmmm don't know enough about gilroy to make a fair consensus, but i might be on board for that...
Gilroy is a terrible player. The Rangers signed him as an undrafted FA out of college. They had great hopes for him, but there is a reason players go totally undrafted multiple years, they don't have NHL talent.

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Every single time a Rangers fan makes a thread asking for Tyutin, they offer Frolov and Gilroy, usually adding a 3rd round pick.

Here's a thought. Columbus has no interest in Frolov or Gilroy.

I'll counter with Tytutin for Roszival + a 2nd round pick.
Why would the Rangers add to that? Rozsival is better than Tyutin.

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Why would the Rangers add to that? Rozsival is better than Tyutin.
Why would Columbus want Frolov and Gilroy?

If you want to drop the 2nd, switch out Hejda for Tyutin.

To NYR: Jan Hejda

To CLB: Michal Roszival

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Why would Columbus want Frolov and Gilroy?

If you want to drop the 2nd, switch out Hejda for Tyutin.

To NYR: Jan Hejda

To CLB: Michal Roszival
Firstly, that doesn't affect how Rozsival is better than Tyutin. I doubt they would take either one, personally.

I like that 2nd deal a lot. How many years are left on Hejda's deal?

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