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12-11-2010, 06:29 PM
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Time to Honour Bure?

Ben Kuzma of the Vancouver Province writes an article titled:

With Naslund's number going to the rafters, Bure now on franchise radar for an honour


Even before Markus Naslund was to receive the ultimate honour in having his No. 19 jersey raised to the rafters on Saturday at Rogers Arena, there was growing debate on how the enigmatic Pavel Bure should be honoured. Naslund, Trevor Linden and Stan Smyl who have had their respective numbers retired believe Bure deserves to be remembered in some fashion. But does his No. 10 go to the rafters, does he join the Ring of Honour or does he want anything to do with any of this?
http://communities.canada.com/thepro...an-honour.aspx

Mike Gillis:
"He's on our radar. Part of it is the person and it didn't end the way people had hoped. But there are two sides to the story. He's a private person and I don't think it's any deviation from the criteria."

Markus Naslund:
"He's definitely one of the players that when you think of the Canucks, you think of Pavel for all he brought."

Stan Smyl:
"Pavel was a piece of the puzzle of the respect we got as a franchise."

Trevor Linden:
"Pavel was probably the most dynamic player this organization has seen. I'm sure it's on their [management's] plate."

My opinion - Pavel should have his number retired as he was without a doubt the most skilled and dynamic player ever to play for the Canucks. He was one of those rare players that every time he touched the puck he pulled you out of your seat.

Have at it.

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12-11-2010, 06:31 PM
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No question. His best years were in a Canucks uniform, and he's a strong candidate for the Hall of Fame.

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The other 3 are having their number retired for the person they were in the community and to the franchise as well as what they did on the ice, unfortunately Pavel only embodies one of those things, he should not have his number retired but should be in the RoH.

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I'm gonna **** a brick if anyone calls him a hero.

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This is the only time I'm 100% in agreement with Wetcoaster. Nobody did it better (Bure I mean).

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I'm gonna **** a brick if anyone calls him a hero.
Pavel Bure is a hockey hero.






I can;t help but be facetious with you at this point

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12-11-2010, 06:55 PM
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Pavel Bure is a hockey hero.

I can;t help but be facetious with you at this point
Yeah no problem at all, but in my opinion this is a hockey hero.

Dudley "Red" Garrett (July 24, 1924 – November 24, 1944) was a professional ice hockey defenceman who played 23 games for the New York Rangers of the National Hockey League in the 1942–43 season.

Dudley was born in Toronto, Ontario. He went to school at (now known as) Hodgson Senior Public school. Garrett originally was property of the Toronto Maple Leafs, however he was traded in 1942 along with Hank Goldup to the Rangers for future Hart Trophy recipient, Babe Pratt. Garrett was killed in action during World War II while serving on a destroyer escort run off the coast of Newfoundland. The American Hockey League presented a trophy in his honour in 1947, the Dudley "Red" Garrett Memorial Award, which is given to the best rookie in the AHL each season.

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Gotta say...Bure's number should be up there. Widely acknowledged as one of the greatest players who ever lived, really perhaps help put Vancouver on the map as the franchise's first bonafide superstar.

I support it.

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You guys definitely should. As much as I don't like the Canucks i used to watch every game just to see Bure do his thing. He was the ****!

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12-11-2010, 07:00 PM
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He was the best player the Canucks have ever had. He was also here at a "complicated" time for Russian ex-pats, and he made some dubious choices that young men often do, especially as he was likely getting less than stellar advice. And it seems clear Canucks management was also making some bone headed decisions that created the situation or at least, made things much worse.

I'd like to see the politics and business mis-dealings put aside and have him recognized for on-ice performances the likes of which we'd never seen before and have never seen since.

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12-11-2010, 07:08 PM
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He was the best player the Canucks have ever had. He was also here at a "complicated" time for Russian ex-pats, and he made some dubious choices that young men often do, especially as he was likely getting less than stellar advice. And it seems clear Canucks management was also making some bone headed decisions that created the situation or at least, made things much worse.

I'd like to see the politics and business mis-dealings put aside and have him recognized for on-ice performances the likes of which we'd never seen before and have never seen since.
Canucks management should thank their lucky stars that Bure's agent for most of his career in Vancouver was Ron Salcer who papered over all the problems Canucks management created and talked Bure into staying as long as he did.

As soon as Bure hired a tough agent (Mike Gillis) he was out of Vancouver.

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Bure was the Canucks' first real superstar. Looking around the league, the vast majority of teams have retired the number of the guy that fits that description for their team. From the sounds of it, the big difficulty may be convincing Bure that he's not going to get a hostile reception if he comes back for the ceremony. A good response to Naslund tonight and maybe Gillis making a few more comments about the nature of Bure's departure - and specifically Burke's role in it - might help in that respect.

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You would think we're the Edmonton Oilers or the New York Islanders with all these jerseys retired...

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Yes, it is definately time to honor Bure..put aside all the other stuff, the guy was pure majic on ice.

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If this organization is to be one of the premiere organizations in the NHL it can't be seen as petty... drop the crap and put this guys jersey in the rafters now because it will be an embarrassment if they do it AFTER he gets into the HOF.

Lets go Gillis and Co.

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12-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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Bure, Ohlund and Naslund should be in the Ring Of Honor
But not retired

Naslund would probably feel just as honored to be in the ROH instead of being retired

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Jersey retirement is a special thing, yet after tonight, we might as well retire #10 too

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You would think we're the Edmonton Oilers or the New York Islanders with all these jerseys retired...
Except that those organizations probably would also retire Bure's number. Smyl, Linden, Naslund? Not so much.

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12-11-2010, 09:29 PM
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i'd honour him for sure. he is still my favourite player.

the question is, if we held a night to retire his jersey, would he even come?

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Except that those organizations probably would also retire Bure's number. Smyl, Linden, Naslund? Not so much.
Sadly, with Bure's injuries and him high-tailing it out of town at the age of 27, I dont think he was her elong enough or accomplished enough to have his jersey retired.

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12-11-2010, 09:31 PM
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Canucks management should thank their lucky stars that Bure's agent for most of his career in Vancouver was Ron Salcer who papered over all the problems Canucks management created and talked Bure into staying as long as he did.

As soon as Bure hired a tough agent (Mike Gillis) he was out of Vancouver.
Clearly a rift between Gillis and Vancouver .

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Widely acknowledged as one of the greatest players who ever lived
He's widely put in the same category as Howe, Gretzky and Orr? Really? Seriously?

His hands and his speed doesn't make up for his laziness and individualism... He was a great player, but not one of the best ever.

And no, I wouldn't retire his jersey number, nor would I have retired Smyl's, Linden's or Naslund's.

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12-11-2010, 10:06 PM
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If the Canucks can put aside the bad feelings with Brian Burke and Tod Bertuzzi, anything is possible.

Mind you Gillis and Burke reminded me of the scene in Patton where he is at a dinner with the Soviet "allies".

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Prediction: They'll honour Bure by retiring 10 . Tambellini will switch to 96. Two weeks later, they'll retire 96. When told, Tambellini will stare ahead blankly like Jim on the Office.

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