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12-13-2010, 10:32 AM
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Okay so allow me add to this already confusing situation.

How many teams right now have the ability via cap space to put in a claim on Nabokov if he is signed and then goes through waivers ?

Could Nabokov refuse to report to that team ?

One has to wonder at what $ amount is he coming over at ?
Depends on at what cap hit.

At 4mill, half the league.

At 5mill, 13ish teams.

There are 8 teams that have 10+mill in space including a few that would no doubt be happy with Nabokov as an upgrade.

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12-13-2010, 11:22 AM
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According to Nabokov's agent, he will be back in the USA tomorow

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12-13-2010, 11:41 AM
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Didn't this happen a couple years ago and Columbus picked up the goalie off waivers??
Certainly Did, Islanders signed Wade Dubielewicz a couple years ago after MacDonald got hurt, and Dipietro was already out for the year. Columbus then claimed him off waivers.

it was the EXACT same circumstance, Dubie and AK Bars mutually terminated his contract and then he signed with NYI, but was subject to waivers and was subsequently claimed by the Jackets.

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Depends on at what cap hit.

At 4mill, half the league.

At 5mill, 13ish teams.

There are 8 teams that have 10+mill in space including a few that would no doubt be happy with Nabokov as an upgrade.
Keep in mind the cap hit for the rest of this year would be pro-rated as well. So there are actually closer to 20 teams (at least) that could fit him in either without a move or just by waiving their current backup goalie.

But if the contract he signs includes more years (and we know it would) it would deter a lot of those teams from adding his full cap hit in future years.

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Is everyone sure he has to pass through waivers he wasn't loaned to KHL team?
He's a hockey player without a contract ie. Fallstrom when Dallas signed him, no ?

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Is everyone sure he has to pass through waivers he wasn't loaned to KHL team?
He's a hockey player without a contract ie. Fallstrom when Dallas signed him, no ?
How could he be loaned to the KHL if he didn't have an NHL contract?

And are you sure you don't mean Brunnstrom?

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12-13-2010, 01:10 PM
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TB 2 years $4 million per. Just an educated guess

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TB 2 years $4 million per. Just an educated guess
You think he'll get that much? He may not have gone to KHL in the first place, if someone had made that offer.

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How could he be loaned to the KHL if he didn't have an NHL contract?

And are you sure you don't mean Brunnstrom?
I said he wasn't, and yes I mean Brunnstrom. (sorry)

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You think he'll get that much? He may not have gone to KHL in the first place, if someone had made that offer.
I think so GH. Makes teams leery of claiming him and the actual dollars will be closer $6.5 million instead of $8 million for the 2 years

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TB 2 years $4 million per. Just an educated guess

An "educated" guess... Damn.

I'm going to call it anyway. Nabokov will get signed for HALF of what you're predicting.

Just a... in-no-way-whatsoever-educated guess.

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12-13-2010, 02:10 PM
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Wonder if Sharks might be interested in him at a cut rate.

I do think Tampa most likely destination though. Their goaltending looks horrendous.

Don't think the Caps are all that bad off in net. It's their defense that's a problem.

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An "educated" guess... Damn.

I'm going to call it anyway. Nabokov will get signed for HALF of what you're predicting.

Just a... in-no-way-whatsoever-educated guess.
That got me wonderin' too, normally I'd say "pffft you're crazy", but OOG's educated guesses seem to be fairly well educated.

I'll do ya all one better and agree with MMB in saying it will be less (Stamkos coming up for renewal next year and all), 3 mill or so, but he'll then get claimed off waivers by....

Edmonton.

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Anybody ever tried a 'poison pill' in a player contract (or would NHL disallow)?

...like say, a $3M bonus kicks in, if the normal practice facility is more than 100 miles from Clearwater, Florida.

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Pretty sure it's any player. I remember it coming up often when Jagr was rumored to be coming over during a season to Edmonton or Pittsburgh.

Is Nabby's family in Russia (would he be willing to come back to the US)? Wonder why the two sides decided to void the contract?
Nabby's wife is from Kentucky. I'm sure the "family reasons" were that she can't handle the lifestyle or Russian winters. They'll be back here by the end of the week, regardless of if he has a contract or not.

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Anybody ever tried a 'poison pill' in a player contract (or would NHL disallow)?

...like say, a $3M bonus kicks in, if the normal practice facility is more than 100 miles from Clearwater, Florida.
LOL.

I assume something like that wouldnt get past the leagues lawyers as being legit.

But there was that clause in the Fedorov deal from when he was an RFA that was attempted to screw over Detroit, and that went through.

I forget the exact terms but Carolina offered Sergei a deal that he accepted, that had HUGE bonuses if the team reached the finals/stanley cup over the next X years, knowing that Carolina sucked and Detroit would probably have to pay the money.

Wings matched anyway, but thats the closest thing I know of that meets what you asked. Still much more "legit" than geographic paramaters that would be obvious.

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LOL.

I assume something like that wouldnt get past the leagues lawyers as being legit.

But there was that clause in the Fedorov deal from when he was an RFA that was attempted to screw over Detroit, and that went through.

I forget the exact terms but Carolina offered Sergei a deal that he accepted, that had HUGE bonuses if the team reached the finals/stanley cup over the next X years, knowing that Carolina sucked and Detroit would probably have to pay the money.

Wings matched anyway, but thats the closest thing I know of that meets what you asked. Still much more "legit" than geographic paramaters that would be obvious.
NHL can't make decisions 'just for laughs'. If it's not somehow prohibited by CBA, I doubt they could do anything about it.

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LOL.

I assume something like that wouldnt get past the leagues lawyers as being legit.

But there was that clause in the Fedorov deal from when he was an RFA that was attempted to screw over Detroit, and that went through.

I forget the exact terms but Carolina offered Sergei a deal that he accepted, that had HUGE bonuses if the team reached the finals/stanley cup over the next X years, knowing that Carolina sucked and Detroit would probably have to pay the money.

Wings matched anyway, but thats the closest thing I know of that meets what you asked. Still much more "legit" than geographic paramaters that would be obvious.
There are restrictions to the amount and type of bonuses - at best the only bonus that could be part of his contract is per games played - and given his age and that he played in the league last year - he wouldn't be illegible for even that.

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Don Meehan confirms he's had talks with Tampa Bay today.

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Don Meehan confirms he's had talks with Tampa Bay today.
The Lightning with solid goaltending is one scary team.

Fingers crossed it's someone else.

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The Lightning with solid goaltending is one scary team.

Fingers crossed it's someone else.
Yzerman is not very happy with his goaltending from what i was told. Also told he's happy Nabby is available and will go after him hard.

IMO you are right. All that team needs is goaltending and with Vinny skating now, they could be scary

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Who knows, Brad Richards may find his way back to Tampa too. Bolts/Wings in the finals?

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Don't think the Caps are all that bad off in net. It's their defense that's a problem.
Good lord, man. Couldn't disagree more Take a look at the number of leads Neuvirth has blown in the 3rd period this year and tell me he isn't a huge concern right now.

He's a talented player, but he gives up a softie and it's over. He tends to completely lose it and has yet to prove he can make the big save consistently at the NHL level. And yes, I know he was outstanding in Hershey.

As for Varlamov, supreme athlete, but highly streaky. You never know which Varly you're going to get. He's awesome...or he's stinkroid. He isn't solid down the middle as much as that team needs him to be.

Neither one of these guys gives me even the remotest sense of a warm and fuzzy as to being able to carry the mail in the playoffs. On paper they may look OK, but I hate the body language I see from those guys in the game. Neuvirth looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders, and Varly, well, let's just say he's more of a student of the Alexander Semin school of intensity than he is the Ovechkin academy.

The Caps defense is an issue...but so is their goaltending. They need a veteran to take the pressure off whichever young guy is left standing. Right now, their flaws get magnified every time the Caps lose a game they ought to win because their goalies weren't able to make the big stop at crunch time. Expectations in D.C. are crushing...it's lousy thing to do expecting that tandem to carry that city's Stanley Cup hopes.

They ain't ready.

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