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12-14-2010, 04:21 AM
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Canada icing 3 teams

I've often heard people say that with Canada's depth (at the pro level), they could ice 2,3 or 4 teams that would be competitive at the international level.

The latest junior tournament where it is the Russian all stars vs all stars of the Q, O and W as well as the under 17 tournament (which team Canada ices 5) intrigued me.

Using those 3 leagues as a guide line (ei. Maritimers play in the Q) I've created 3 teams.

What I would like to know is;
a)Do you think that any or all of the teams would be competitive for a gold
b)Would you change any of the players

note: I've included Taylor Hall on the West team and a few others like him predicting where he'll be in 2014. I've also chosen Brodeur and Pronger for their respected team but It's doubtful that they'll be around then.

I've noticed that the W may be a little week in scoring, the O in Goal (unless Mason starts tearing it up again like he did in his rookie season) and the Q really week on D.

Enjoy!

ONTARIO
FORWARDS
Rick Nash Eric Staal Cory Perry
John Taveres Joe Thorton Steve Stampkos
Mike Cammeleri Jason Spezza Nathan Horton
Ben Eager Mike Richards Jordan Staal
Sub Jeff Carter

DEFENCE
Chris Pronger Drew Doughty
Mark Staal Dan Boyle
Brian Campbell Kevin Bieksa
Sub PK Subban

GOAL
Steve Mason
Michael Leighton
Brian Elliot







WEST
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau Ryan Getzlaf Jerome Iginla
Taylor Hall Jonathan Toews Shane Doan
Brendan Morrow Patrick Sharp Dustin Penner
Milan Lucic Shawn Horcoff Colby Armstrong
Sub Scott Hartnel

DEFENCE
Brent Seabrook Duncan Keith
Shea Weber Dan Hamhuis
Mike Green Eric Brewer
Sub Chris Phillips

GOAL
Cary Price
Chris Mason
Alex Auld







QUEBEC
FORWARD
Alex Tanguay Sidney Crosby Daniel Briere
Simon Gagne Vincent Lecalvalier Martin St. Louis
Guillaume Latendresse Brad Richards Michael Ryder
Steve Ott Anton Vermette Jason Pominville
Sub Matthew Lombardi

DEFENCE
Francois Beauchemin Kris Letang
Stephan Robidas Colin White
Jason Demers Marc Eduard Vlasic
Sub Bruno Gervais

GOAL
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc Andre Fleury


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12-14-2010, 04:32 AM
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No Pominville. He represents the US.

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Oh ok, why is that, he was born in Que?

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Oh ok, why is that, he was born in Que?
The same reason Heatley was born in Germany- it's where you grow up and/or what country you identify with

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Oh ok, why is that, he was born in Que?
He became a US citizen in Buffalo. I think he has now played for a US team in the senior world championships and is thus US property.

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The same reason Heatley was born in Germany- it's where you grow up and/or what country you identify with

Well,actually Pominville is francophone who was born and GREW UP in Quebec. 67Cup is right, he became an american citizen while playing for the Sabres (besides, his mother is American). He didn't play for Canada in his junior age so he was able to choose a country to represent. He chose the US and played for them in the 2008 World Championships.

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Eric Brewer does not make the W defence. There are about 100 defenceman who would play in front of him

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It's a good topic of discussion. Canada could ice three competetive teams. With some luck, any of them could win gold. As a Canadian and a Flyer fan, I'd hate to see Leighton play goal though.


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Good discussion! I really think they would be medal- but not Gold teams.

I see something like
Gold : Russia, Sweden
Medal : Ontario, West, USA
Best of the Rest: Finnland, Czech Rep., Quebec

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Call me a homer but did you really insert some players without putting in Matt Duchene or Chris Stewart?

I know two things that shows, there is obviously great depth and I feel maybe one or two of the teams would be competitive. It also shows you'd pick players like Horcroff and Hall over Duchene or Stewart? Call me crazy but Horcroff is not Duchene and while Hall is good, it's still just his first year. Stewart should be a consideration on atleast one of your line-ups. Yes this shows depth but it also shows your missing some key players.

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Alex Auld, Chris Mason and no Cam Ward?

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ben eager in with jeff carter as the sub???

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Shawn Horcoff in 2014 a better West center than 2014 Jamie Benn?

Anyways 2 teams max, Canada East, Canada West.

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I've often heard people say that with Canada's depth (at the pro level), they could ice 2,3 or 4 teams that would be competitive at the international level.

The latest junior tournament where it is the Russian all stars vs all stars of the Q, O and W as well as the under 17 tournament (which team Canada ices 5) intrigued me.

Using those 3 leagues as a guide line (ei. Maritimers play in the Q) I've created 3 teams.

What I would like to know is;
a)Do you think that any or all of the teams would be competitive for a gold
b)Would you change any of the players

note: I've included Taylor Hall on the West team and a few others like him predicting where he'll be in 2014. I've also chosen Brodeur and Pronger for their respected team but It's doubtful that they'll be around then.

I've noticed that the W may be a little week in scoring, the O in Goal (unless Mason starts tearing it up again like he did in his rookie season) and the Q really week on D.

Enjoy!

ONTARIO
FORWARDS
Rick Nash Eric Staal Cory Perry
John Taveres Joe Thorton Steve Stampkos
Matt Duchene Jason Spezza Nathan Horton
Chris Stewart Mike Richards Jeff Carter
Sub Jordan Staal

DEFENCE
Chris Pronger Drew Doughty
Mark Staal Dan Boyle
Brian Campbell Erik Gudbranson
Sub PK Subban

GOAL
Steve Mason
Michael Leighton
Brian Elliot







WEST
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau Ryan Getzlaf Jerome Iginla
Taylor Hall Jonathan Toews Shane Doan
Brendan Morrow Patrick Sharp Dustin Penner
Milan Lucic Shawn Horcoff Colby Armstrong
Sub Scott Hartnel

DEFENCE
Brent Seabrook Duncan Keith
Shea Weber Dan Hamhuis
Mike Green Luke Schenn
Sub Chris Phillips

GOAL
Cary Price
Chris Mason
Alex Auld







QUEBEC
FORWARD
Alex Tanguay Sidney Crosby Daniel Briere
Simon Gagne Vincent Lecalvalier Martin St. Louis
Guillaume Latendresse Brad Richards Michael Ryder
Steve Ott Anton Vermette Jason Pominville
Sub Matthew Lombardi

DEFENCE
Francois Beauchemin Kris Letang
Stephan Robidas Colin White
Jason Demers Marc Eduard Vlasic
Sub Bruno Gervais

GOAL
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc Andre Fleury
Fixed

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I've often heard people say that with Canada's depth (at the pro level), they could ice 2,3 or 4 teams that would be competitive at the international level.

The latest junior tournament where it is the Russian all stars vs all stars of the Q, O and W as well as the under 17 tournament (which team Canada ices 5) intrigued me.


QUEBEC
FORWARD
Alex Tanguay Sidney Crosby Daniel Briere
Simon Gagne Vincent Lecalvalier Martin St. Louis
Guillaume Latendresse Brad Richards Michael Ryder
Steve Ott Anton Vermette Jason Pominville
Sub Matthew Lombardi

DEFENCE
Francois Beauchemin Kris Letang
Stephan Robidas Colin White
Jason Demers Marc Eduard Vlasic
Sub Bruno Gervais

GOAL
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc Andre Fleury
A technicality...
But Claude Giroux -- while born in Ontario -- played his junior hockey in the Q. Which means he would make it over Ryder and Pominville anyways.

As for the O, well... It would be a judgement call, between him and a few guys you named.

Francis Bouillon would be on the roster of Team Q. Born in the US, but grew up in Homa.

Brodeur is likely gone in 2014 -- heir apparant for his spot would be Jonathan Bernier at this point.
And gotta find a way to put Mike Ribeiro on the Q roster as well.

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ben eager in with jeff carter as the sub???
The reason that I chose Eager over Carter is because the team already has scorers, I'm not sure how he would handle limited ice time. I wrestled between him and Spezza. I thought that Eager would be more of a true 4th line guy.

As far as Duchene, Ward, Ribiero and Schenn yes I agree that they could be on thier respected teams. (That's why I started this discusssion.)

Any opinions on who would replace Pronger and Brodeur?

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I've often heard people say that with Canada's depth (at the pro level), they could ice 2,3 or 4 teams that would be competitive at the international level.

The latest junior tournament where it is the Russian all stars vs all stars of the Q, O and W as well as the under 17 tournament (which team Canada ices 5) intrigued me.

Using those 3 leagues as a guide line (ei. Maritimers play in the Q) I've created 3 teams.

What I would like to know is;
a)Do you think that any or all of the teams would be competitive for a gold
b)Would you change any of the players

note: I've included Taylor Hall on the West team and a few others like him predicting where he'll be in 2014. I've also chosen Brodeur and Pronger for their respected team but It's doubtful that they'll be around then.

I've noticed that the W may be a little week in scoring, the O in Goal (unless Mason starts tearing it up again like he did in his rookie season) and the Q really week on D.

Enjoy!

ONTARIO
FORWARDS
Rick Nash Eric Staal Cory Perry
John Tavares Joe Thorton Steve Stamkos
Mike Cammalleri Jason Spezza Nathan Horton
Chris Stewart Mike Richards Jordan Staal
Sub Jeff Carter

DEFENCE
Chris Pronger Drew Doughty
Mark Staal Dan Boyle
Brian Campbell Kevin Bieksa
Sub PK Subban

GOAL
Steve Mason
Marty Turco
Brian Elliot







WEST
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau Ryan Getzlaf Jerome Iginla
Taylor Hall Jonathan Toews Shane Doan
Brendan Morrow Patrick Sharp Dustin Penner
Milan Lucic Shawn Horcoff Colby Armstrong
Sub Scott Hartnell

DEFENCE
Brent Seabrook Duncan Keith
Shea Weber Dan Hamhuis
Mike Green Tyler Myers
Sub Luke Schenn

GOAL
Cary Price
Chris Mason
Alex Auld







QUEBEC/MARITIMES
FORWARD
Alex Tanguay Sidney Crosby Daniel Briere
Simon Gagne Vincent Lecalvalier Martin St. Louis
Claude Giroux Brad Richards Ryane Clowe
Steve Ott Sean Couturier Danny Cleary
Sub Matthew Lombardi

DEFENCE
Francois Beauchemin Kris Letang
Stephan Robidas Colin White
Jason Demers Marc Eduard Vlasic
Sub Bruno Gervais

GOAL
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc Andre Fleury
Made some changes, took out pommer (who plays for the US) and added some more players. All in all, three teams that could be very competitive. Not to mention all the high quality prospects coming out of Canada right now.

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The issue is you may have some players that want to play for canada not not quebec.

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The issue is you may have some players that want to play for canada not not quebec.
This isn't about choosing between your province or your country though, there is no collective Team Canada, this is about Canada as a whole being split into different regional teams.

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Pominville's mother is American, so he had the choice of playing for Canada or the USA. Since he would have 0% chance to play for Canada except in the world championships he made a calculated career decision. It is looking like he won't even represent the USA at a meaningfull level since they had a huge infusion of talent in recent years.

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I think Heatley grew up in Ontario? Also It should be Eastern Canada team not Quebec since Crosby is from Nova Scotia not Quebec.

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I'm sure a bunch of players would choose to go to a team they would get playing time. As someone said above, 2 teams would be better, Canada east and west. Both teams would be stacked.

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Made some changes, took out pommer (who plays for the US) and added some more players. All in all, three teams that could be very competitive. Not to mention all the high quality prospects coming out of Canada right now.
Giroux is from Hearst, Ontario . Why's he on team Quebec?

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