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Fehr announced as NHLPA ED, effective 12/18/2010

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12-17-2010, 04:09 PM
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Fehr announced as NHLPA ED, effective 12/18/2010

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/?id=345893

Another loose thread being tied up?

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I'm thinking Donald Fehr as my post WJC avatar....

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this was the one of the worlds worst secrets

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RIP the Cap 2005-2012.

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Oh God no !
He screwed baseball up enough and hockeys $$ deal is nowhere near baseball.

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how many times was this supposed be announced already?

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how many times was this supposed be announced already?
Its offical for real this time. He delayed it because he wanted to see all thirty teams players first.

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@DarrenDreger is right of course. Source confirms Don Fehr will be announced tomorrow as new executive director of NHLPA.
More on Fehr: will hire a deputy who will be groomed as successor. Fehr, 62, only plans to stay 'til new CBA in place in 2012 (we all hope).
Finally, source says delay on Fehr vote due to logistics not opposition to him. Vote was near unanimous in favour of Fehr.
OK, this is final on Fehr. Got to write. In answer to a question, Fehr will split his time between New York and Toronto.

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Bettman vs Fehr!!! Can't wait.

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Oh God no !
He screwed baseball up enough and hockeys $$ deal is nowhere near baseball.

dont believe everything you read. Some MLB teams loved Fehr and love not having a cap. Plus some of the small markets love to play the poor card, even though they are making a good sum of money (as recent leaked documents support)

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dont believe everything you read. Some MLB teams loved Fehr and love not having a cap. Plus some of the small markets love to play the poor card, even though they are making a good sum of money (as recent leaked documents support)
Pittsburgh and Florida....

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Sayonara, 2012-13 season. Probably for the best.

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I love this decision. Players should be able to make as much as possible. That's the free market capitalism we Americans love so much.

What I don't want to see is an even worse entry level contract situation, much like baseball's. Some of the best players are barely making any money while mediocre players are making bank. ELC's need to get more NFL-like.

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Pittsburgh and Florida....
i couldn't remember exactly who it was. But i would bet they are not the only ones.

The last thing all MLB owners want is full disclosure like the NHL.

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i couldn't remember exactly who it was. But i would bet they are not the only ones.

The last thing all MLB owners want is full disclosure like the NHL.
Them and Tampa are the ones I know for sure, KC might be another one.

Your last part would be on point too, the Marlins almost moved to San Antonio because Dade county wanted them to open their books

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Sorry, but the NHLPA's Don Fehr Era doesn't automatically equal CBA strife. Owner avarice will be the real cause of future labor woes.

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This will be exactly like 1994-95 with the big markets stabbing bettman in the back.

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This will be exactly like 1994-95 with the big markets stabbing bettman in the back.
Nope. Unlike (and because of) 1995 Bettman has the Supermajority card - GB and 8 owners can block any CBA without his consent.

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Now that's not exactly fair kdb. Money losing franchises should not be determing how money making franchises spend their money

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Shoalts: announcement Saturday. (Updated constitution also approved in recent voting.)

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This is very good for the players (maybe not the NHL). Fehr is the best at this part of this business so they should be excited and glad to have some one of his stature fighting on their behalf.

As for the cap:

Good riddance , don't let the door hit your behind on the way out.

The current NHL cap has been rising every year since the creation of the cap. To me its pointless when there are still teams barely able to spend to the minimum and then teams that are spending to the max every year. Its just like the pre cap days but the big teams cant spend 70 million plus every year.

If the league wants a level playing field , every team must spend to a certain amount of money lets say 46.5 million, only adjusted for inflation. Only 2 way contracts can be sent down, no waivers and no burrying players, that should rid most of the big contracts in the future. All the extra revenue generated covers the losses of other teams.

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This is very good for the players (maybe not the NHL). Fehr is the best at this part of this business so they should be excited and glad to have some one of his stature fighting on their behalf.

As for the cap:

Good riddance , don't let the door hit your behind on the way out.

The current NHL cap has been rising every year since the creation of the cap. To me its pointless when there are still teams barely able to spend to the minimum and then teams that are spending to the max every year. Its just like the pre cap days but the big teams cant spend 70 million plus every year.

If the league wants a level playing field , every team must spend to a certain amount of money lets say 46.5 million, only adjusted for inflation. Only 2 way contracts can be sent down, no waivers and no burrying players, that should rid most of the big contracts in the future. All the extra revenue generated covers the losses of other teams.
Your entire post is pointless.

The salary cap is here to stay. Bettman doesn't seem so concerned about the cap increasing.

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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman was quick to note that the poorer teams still see a benefit when the salary cap jumps because more money is handed out in revenue sharing. Roughly 10 teams qualify for revenue sharing payments each season.

“If the salary cap goes up, it means revenues are going up,” said Bettman. “It means revenue sharing goes up. You've got to look at the system in its totality. It's a little premature for us to be worrying about (teams having trouble spending to the salary floor).”
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Revenue sharing. Corporate welfare. The Rangers,Leafs and Flyers sell their buildings out and the money goes to Atlanta,Nashville and Phoenix. Why should that continue?

The NHLPA wants the players on the NHL roster to count against the cap. Not the players on one way contracts playing in the AHL or Europe. Just the players in the room. Go ask Bill Daly about that issue. bdaly@nhl.com. As long as players on one way contract playing in the AHL are receiving their full salaries,there is not much for the NHLPA to complain about. Why would the PA agree to changing that part of the CBA?

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The problem with the mindset of the fans is that people see each individual team as an individual business. The NHL is the business and the other teams are departments within the business.

If Fehr forces the issue on the cap the NHL can counter by saying they will lay off workers. (AKA contraction).

There are those who complain their higher end market teams can't compete when they are paying revenue sharing. When I see 7 of the bottom 15 teams in the cap in a playoff position and another 3-5 in playoff contention, it's not a matter of spending that makes you competitive, it's a matter of the fact your GM is a moron and is spending his stupid money stupidly.

This is not the time and or environment to cause a work stoppage. It would be a pound foolish, and frankly, penny foolish move.

The owners can and should consider ending the escrow. Anything else would be seen as arrogance on the player's part.

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Donald Fehr will talk w/Ron MacLean in studio on ScotiaBank Hockey Tonight before HNIC tonight

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It's official

http://www.nhlpa.com/News/Media-Rele...B-91E19E15B8ED
NHLPA media release



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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...director_N.htm
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