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12-22-2010, 02:15 AM
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Something just seems off with him, maybe hes still trying to find his timing but he seems out of position a lot more and his rebound control is not great. He seems real "stiff" in net.
He's probably scared...to death. Rigor mortis begins to take effect whenever he sees the pairing of Foote and Hunwick on the ice.

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12-22-2010, 03:00 AM
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And this information came from where?

The Avs front office isn't one to kiss and tell. I have no idea how a reporter for the Leafs would have come across this scoop.
Burke floats so much BS to the media for his own benefit. I wouldn't be surprised if that's where this came from too.

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12-22-2010, 12:04 PM
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Still no serious talks between Anderson and Avalanche.

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12-22-2010, 02:46 PM
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I couldn't be less concerned.

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12-22-2010, 06:07 PM
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Many teams don't discuss contract talks during the season.

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12-22-2010, 07:21 PM
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I think the plan is to move him at the deadline for a PMD.


But anyways, I get a feeling this whole situation will point back to the CBA yet once again - why do a long term deal before the CBA?

(on a side note, I don't know why the Avs do have that philosophy...with Fehr coming on I see the players getting a bigger cut/bigger contracts with more loopholes in the cap calculations next go around...I am expecting salaries to go up not down?)

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12-22-2010, 07:31 PM
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Whatever, I'm not too concerned either. There are other options, but I hope it doesn't come down to that.

BTW, for those of you pining away for Vokoun, he just got yanked again tonight.

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12-22-2010, 08:05 PM
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I think the plan is to move him at the deadline for a PMD.


But anyways, I get a feeling this whole situation will point back to the CBA yet once again - why do a long term deal before the CBA?

(on a side note, I don't know why the Avs do have that philosophy...with Fehr coming on I see the players getting a bigger cut/bigger contracts with more loopholes in the cap calculations next go around...I am expecting salaries to go up not down?)
In order for the players to achieve that goal, the lockout will have to last longer than one season IMO. It would be a far uglier situation than last time around.

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12-22-2010, 08:14 PM
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I think the plan is to move him at the deadline for a PMD.


But anyways, I get a feeling this whole situation will point back to the CBA yet once again - why do a long term deal before the CBA?

(on a side note, I don't know why the Avs do have that philosophy...with Fehr coming on I see the players getting a bigger cut/bigger contracts with more loopholes in the cap calculations next go around...I am expecting salaries to go up not down?)
Not to derail this thread but I think if a lockout happens it'll be 100% the owners' fault. Fehr may or may not be pushing for a soft cap, which IMO makes more sense for both sides in a sport where the contracts are guaranteed. In all honesty though it's the owners who have made a mockery out of the current cap with these 10-15 year deals.

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12-22-2010, 09:25 PM
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Not to derail this thread but I think if a lockout happens it'll be 100% the owners' fault. Fehr may or may not be pushing for a soft cap, which IMO makes more sense for both sides in a sport where the contracts are guaranteed. In all honesty though it's the owners who have made a mockery out of the current cap with these 10-15 year deals.
I think we're heading towards a soft cap as well. And if we are, I think it will increase player's salaries so I don't get why they'd want to halt Anderson extension talks, but who knows they have used it already as an excuse (supposedly) in not being players in FA.

But yeah...someone should start a CBA thread lol.

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12-22-2010, 09:42 PM
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Why are people taking any stock in this? It's been Avs policy since the lockout that they will not talk new contracts until after the new year. So, why is this surprising to anyone?

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12-22-2010, 09:52 PM
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Why are people taking any stock in this? It's been Avs policy since the lockout that they will not talk new contracts until after the new year. So, why is this surprising to anyone?
First off, that's not a hard and fast rule with them. Hejduk signed this year's deal during last season, right?

And what's wrong with us speculating about the future of this team in goal? I know the title of the thread suggests we're all freaking out but I think you can agree it's just a discussion/speculation surrounding the negotiations.

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First off, that's not a hard and fast rule with them. Hejduk signed this year's deal during last season, right?

And what's wrong with us speculating about the future of this team in goal? I know the title of the thread suggests we're all freaking out but I think you can agree it's just a discussion/speculation surrounding the negotiations.
No problem with the discussion of the issue, but just the fact that this is supposed to be breaking news is laughable. There has to be more the hockey world can talk about.

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Do we even know if Anderson wants to talk contract right now, when his numbers aren't all that flattering? It seems like a non-story to me. Simple logic tells me that both parties would be ok with delaying this.

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12-23-2010, 12:14 AM
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First off, that's not a hard and fast rule with them. Hejduk signed this year's deal during last season, right?
Stastny extended mid-way in 2008-2009 as well.

The theory they don't talk to anyone during the season I don't think is purely accurate.

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12-23-2010, 12:44 AM
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The theory they don't talk to anyone during the season I don't think is purely accurate.
It's stupid when teams follow that rule to the letter on principle. The Sabres did that and blew it with both Briere and Drury, had an embarrassing presser afterward where they admitted they ****ed up, and summarily torpedoed that rule. Sometimes in-season negotiations are warranted. If the Avs don't feel they are here, that's fine, but I think they're too smart an organization to do that with everyone.

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I couldn't be less concerned.
You should be, the Avs only have $38 million dollars in cap space going into next season to sign 10 players

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You should be, the Avs only have $38 million dollars in cap space going into next season to sign 10 players

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Not sure if Andy wants to talk turkey right now with his play of late he wouldnt fetch more then 2 mill a year

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At what point do we worry about Andy's play? He has been terrible lately. Budaj is about to split time IMO.

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At what point do we worry about Andy's play? He has been terrible lately. Budaj is about to split time IMO.
If he is not injured I think you have to be a little worried right now. He definitely is not playing the way he was last season. I think more than anything this is going to hurt his contract negotiation. No one is going to give him term the way he is playing.

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12-25-2010, 05:00 PM
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I wonder how much of Andy's bad play can be attributed to the new goalie coach. The reason I'm wondering is that he is not playing the same style at all from last year. He is playing quite a bit more outside of the crease. I also noticed that he is much slower in his lateral movement.

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At what point do we worry about Andy's play? He has been terrible lately. Budaj is about to split time IMO.
Why does it matter?

1) he's terrible, the Avs don't re-sign him
2) he's terrible, the Avs re-sign him on a low value contract
3) he's terrible, the Avs re-sign him on a low value contract and he starts playing a lot better

Granted it's not likely that the Avs make the playoffs when our goalies are combining for a save% under 90, but in a year where we sure as hell aren't winning the Cup any way it's not a big deal

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12-26-2010, 05:33 AM
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I wonder how much of Andy's bad play can be attributed to the new goalie coach. The reason I'm wondering is that he is not playing the same style at all from last year. He is playing quite a bit more outside of the crease. I also noticed that he is much slower in his lateral movement.
I've noticed just the opposite. I remember last year, Andy would scare me to death on every other save because he was coming so far out of the net. This year he seems to be timid, and staying way closer to the crease. It seems like he's getting beat on the first shot, a lot, too.

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I've noticed just the opposite. I remember last year, Andy would scare me to death on every other save because he was coming so far out of the net. This year he seems to be timid, and staying way closer to the crease. It seems like he's getting beat on the first shot, a lot, too.
I think the Avs style of defense last year invited a lot of shots from the outside. Anderson was playing those very aggresively and that led to a bunch of mad scrambles on rebounds and such. He barely got beat on the first shot though.

This year that's different. He's getting beat clean sometimes and I think the Wild were definitely shooting wide to get rebounds with Andy out of position.

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