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12-21-2010, 01:23 PM
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I can't remember the last time a scratch has actually made the player play better. If anything it just gets worse.

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12-21-2010, 01:23 PM
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AK fanboys will be pissed...

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12-21-2010, 01:23 PM
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This isn't a trade proposal because it can't happen. It's like one of Galileo's thought experiments. Anyway, if the Habs could somehow trade Gomez and Pyatt for Higgins and McDonagh they'd be in a better position to improve the roster, if not now then by the start of next season. Think that one over carefully, boys, before you declare my notion preposterous.
I wouldn't touch Higgins with a 50 feet pole. As for the cap space argument, we have plenty of it this summer and if Gauthier will improve the team from the outside, he'll have the liberty to do so.

Hell, with Markov injury, we have 10 millions bucks of theoric cap space (since half of the year is passed). We can add whatever we want if we feel like paying the price.

People will have to understand how the salary cap is consistantly increasing, and how those "HUGE OMGZ!" contract aren't that big of a deal, as they were in the 39M cap era

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12-21-2010, 01:24 PM
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It's not his defese that's drawing complaints, it's his recent armistice on firing more than blanks from his guns.
Scorers control where and when they shoot. Not if the puck actually goes in. AKost had shown no signs of taking fewer quality shots, but he's been less lucky with goaltending than he was before.

The exact same thing happened to Gionta earlier. The sooner the Habs' coaching staff understand how scoring and scorer slumps work, the better.

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12-21-2010, 01:26 PM
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My personal favorite is "Can't wait till Muller is named head coach"
You're damn right!

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I can't remember the last time a scratch has actually made the player play better. If anything it just gets worse.
Sadly that's the only move Martin thinks there is to do with young players, if you want to send the message to Kostitsyn put him with a hard working veteran like Halpern.

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12-21-2010, 01:29 PM
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I don't know if there is a way to get AK to move his feet every game, but the scratching/ humiliation thing is definitely not it.

You basically just need him to have confidence with the puck, usually that comes from a couple lucky goals. When he doesn't have it, like now, his game is pretty ugly to watch.

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12-21-2010, 01:29 PM
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Sadly that's the only move Martin thinks there is to do with young players, if you want to send the message to Kostitsyn put him with a hard working veteran like Halpern.
exactly play him on the 4th line all game even if he play well.

That's why I think AK is going to be trade. At least Gauthier phone will ring, from AK agent and from other GM.

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This isn't a trade proposal because it can't happen. It's like one of Galileo's thought experiments. Anyway, if the Habs could somehow trade Gomez and Pyatt for Higgins and McDonagh they'd be in a better position to improve the roster, if not now then by the start of next season. Think that one over carefully, boys, before you declare my notion preposterous.
Cap space >>>>> winning games. Currently third in the East? Who cares! What about next year!?!

Hey here's another fun idea - if we waive all the players on our team HF hates, we'll have sooooo much cap space we'll be able to improve EVERYWHERE! That's how this salary cap thing works, right?

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12-21-2010, 01:35 PM
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NOOOOOOOO! What will the fanboys do!
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Here's another idea: keep AK-Plex-Cam together. Like, consistently. They were good together last year, and good together this year until they got split up for no real reason. I seriously don't understand...
This makes too much sense.

The ATM line was on fire in the beginning of the season and then it got split up to try to get Gomez going.

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Cap space >>>>> winning games. Currently third in the East? Who cares! What about next year!?!

Hey here's another fun idea - if we waive all the players on our team HF hates, we'll have sooooo much cap space we'll be able to improve EVERYWHERE! That's how this salary cap thing works, right?
The funny part is if we were actually in cap hell whining about SG's contract would be a valid complaint, but seeing as we've got oodles of space this year and some more coming in the next few years with contracts coming off the books/cap going up, it's really a moot point. You make a great point too about winning, it's what freicking matters in the end. As for AK, he's pocketing 3.25 this year, and there's a very real possibility he won't be retained if things progress like this. MOAR CAP SPACE!

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The funny part is if we were actually in cap hell whining about SG's contract would be a valid complaint, but seeing as we've got oodles of space this year and some more coming in the next few years with contracts coming off the books/cap going up, it's really a moot point. You make a great point too about winning, it's what freicking matters in the end. As for AK, he's pocketing 3.25 this year, and there's a very real possibility he won't be retained if things progress like this. MOAR CAP SPACE!
It's the classic HF mentality that kills me, and I see it all the time...

Step 1: Acquire cap space
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Team improved!

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I wouldn't touch Higgins with a 50 feet pole. As for the cap space argument, we have plenty of it this summer and if Gauthier will improve the team from the outside, he'll have the liberty to do so.

Hell, with Markov injury, we have 10 millions bucks of theoric cap space (since half of the year is passed). We can add whatever we want if we feel like paying the price.

People will have to understand how the salary cap is consistantly increasing, and how those "HUGE OMGZ!" contract aren't that big of a deal, as they were in the 39M cap era
The Habs could waive Higgins far less expensively than they could Gomez, but wouldn't you rather have McDonagh than Pyatt?

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12-21-2010, 01:41 PM
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12-21-2010, 01:43 PM
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The Habs could waive Higgins far less expensively than they could Gomez, but wouldn't you rather have McDonagh than Pyatt?
I'd still rather have: Plekanec - Gomez - Eller - Halpern than Plekanec - Eller - Halpern - Pyatt/Lapierre/Desharnais

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Amazing that this has turned into a thread about Gomez now from a thread about AK46 being out.

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Martin sets players up to fail. Simple. He puts Eller with plumbers... and face it Darche fanboys, he is a plumber, career minor leag. player who tries hard. He puts Pouls on the 4th line... Ak was playing great till he took him away from Pleks... Uggh so frustrating... You know what, at least now I know we wont create offense. Sit Pouls too, dress your Pyatt, Darche, Moen, and we wont ever score again. Awesome.

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Cap space >>>>> winning games. Currently third in the East? Who cares! What about next year!?!

Hey here's another fun idea - if we waive all the players on our team HF hates, we'll have sooooo much cap space we'll be able to improve EVERYWHERE! That's how this salary cap thing works, right?
We could easily be in 8th place, a point or two away from being out of the playoffs, come January 1st.

We aren't doing that well point-wise, we're just lucky Boston, Ottawa and Buffalo suck more than us this year, so far.

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12-21-2010, 01:46 PM
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Martin sets players up to fail. Simple. He puts Eller with plumbers... and face it Darche fanboys, he is a plumber, career minor leag. player who tries hard. He puts Pouls on the 4th line... Ak was playing great till he took him away from Pleks... Uggh so frustrating... You know what, at least now I know we wont create offense. Sit Pouls too, dress your Pyatt, Darche, Moen, and we wont ever score again. Awesome.
It's no secret Martin loves his plumbers much like Carbo did (*shudder*). He abides to the old-school whipping mentality of rookies, and it is clearly detrimental to these players. We won't go anywhere if Pouliot and/or Kostitsyn aren't in our top 6 (unless we go out to acquire another top 6 guy).

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The Habs could waive Higgins far less expensively than they could Gomez, but wouldn't you rather have McDonagh than Pyatt?
Not to put too fine a point on it but Pyatt is a NHLer at this point and McDonagh isn't. McDonagh might turn out to be a more useful player than Pyatt in the future, but that's a projection, not a reality.

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We aren't doing that well point-wise, we're just lucky Boston, Ottawa and Buffalo suck more than us this year, so far.
"suck" more than us? How about we're just "better than them"? Why does it always have to be the Habs aren't a good team and the other team never shows up to play, underperforms, yadayada. Give us some credit will you, we're 3rd in the conference, way over .500 and we've hit out first real wall of the season three months in.

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12-21-2010, 01:50 PM
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It's no secret Martin loves his plumbers much like Carbo did (*shudder*). He abides to the old-school whipping mentality of rookies, and it is clearly detrimental to these players. We won't go anywhere if Pouliot and/or Kostitsyn aren't in our top 6 (unless we go out to acquire another top 6 guy).
Unlike Carbonneau, Martin actually implanted a system that fits his team like a glove. Too many people are giving credit to Muller, who didn't do **** about this team's structure before the arrival of Martin.

Martin's decision for lines makeup might be questionnable, but he has an idea as to where he's heading. And that, is much more reassuring than having a tool like Carbonneau who played a guy like Kostopoulos 18 minutes a game from time to time. Name me one "plumber" who plays more than 13 minutes a game for Martin?

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these guys are whats going to keep JM job, theres no way hes benching any of them. He doesnt go against the leadership group
Is this the leadership group that wanted Subban benched as well?

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This won't help the team win.

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