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01-04-2011, 06:16 PM
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Only 23 games left until the trading deadline

That is a possible 46 points.

I think we can deifnitely pull out 30 of those points.. possibly 35.. as long as were in the top 8 in the west we should be buyers come the deadline where we can rent a player or 2 to plug our holes.

I think that would be our best chance to pick up a top 3 forward from a team who is selling..

Who would be available anyway?

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Way we have been playing...win a few, lose a few...probably have 23pts
I hope we can take 30-35pts and be in position to be buyers, but I feel like we will probably just make depth moves.

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We will be buyers no matter what. Even if they are out of the top 8, they will still be buyers and will look to make a playoff push

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Way we have been playing...win a few, lose a few...probably have 23pts
I hope we can take 30-35pts and be in position to be buyers, but I feel like we will probably just make depth moves.
I fear that you may be right even if we do get 30-35 points.. man.. How many more depth players do we need? We might have the best 3rd and 4th lines in the history of the NHL ... We have plenty of 2 way players.. Plenty of players who will take the body and throw checks.. We need a damn solid goal scorer who can put the puck into the back of the net on any given night.

The 3 most important words from here to the end of the season: DO IT DEAN.

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I fear that you may be right even if we do get 30-35 points.. man.. How many more depth players do we need? We might have the best 3rd and 4th lines in the history of the NHL ... We have plenty of 2 way players.. Plenty of players who will take the body and throw checks.. We need a damn solid goal scorer who can put the puck into the back of the net on any given night.

The 3 most important words from here to the end of the season: DO IT DEAN.
Haha that is basically our team, beside a couple guys. Lotta depth and role players, be nice if we could pick up that big time LW scorer, but like you, I am wondering who is an actual option for us...

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according to the fourthperiod

we are interested in

D. Penner (LW) (EDM)
J. Vandermeer (D) (EDM)
F. Beauchemin (D) (TOR)
K. Versteeg (RW) (TOR)
B. Richards (C) (DAL)

so maybe a blockbuster to pry both Penner/Vandermeer from EDM, or Beauchemin/Versteeg?

although we do not need Versteeg...

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Below is a list of the top 60 point getters in the NHL at this point in the season. Other than Richards, Iginla, Roy, and Havlat I don't see any of them that would be on the trading block. Havlat would probably be the cheapest to get and to be honest I am not too sure about Roy. Everyone wants instant dependable offense. I'm just not sure that it is there to get in this market at the price most of us would be willing to pay.

1 Sidney Crosby PIT C 40 32 33 65 19 45 1 19 37 28 12 53 1.62
2 Steven Stamkos TBL C 39 31 25 56 12 31 0 25 28 28 13 43 1.44
3 Martin St Louis TBL R 39 16 34 50 5 28 0 22 24 26 10 40 1.28
4 Henrik Sedin VAN C 38 9 41 50 13 33 0 17 22 28 13 37 1.32
5 Daniel Sedin VAN L 38 21 28 49 13 28 0 21 18 31 12 37 1.29
6 Brad Richards DAL C 40 18 27 45 7 27 0 18 26 19 12 33 1.12
7 Corey Perry ANA R 42 21 23 44 6 26 2 16 21 23 14 30 1.05
8 Henrik Zetterberg DET L 39 14 30 44 10 29 1 14 27 17 9 35 1.13
9 Loui Eriksson DAL L 40 16 26 42 14 28 0 14 25 17 13 29 1.05
10 Anze Kopitar LAK C 39 15 27 42 13 30 0 12 22 20 10 32 1.08
11 Alex Ovechkin WSH L 40 14 28 42 10 28 0 14 25 17 16 26 1.05
12 Patrick Sharp CHI L 40 23 18 41 -10 19 3 19 21 20 13 28 1.02
13 Dustin Byfuglien ATL D 42 16 25 41 8 23 0 18 22 19 7 34 .98
14 Matt Duchene COL C 39 15 24 39 3 29 0 10 20 19 9 30 1.00
15 Pavel Datsyuk DET C 33 12 27 39 8 28 1 10 27 12 10 29 1.18
16 Eric Staal CAR C 38 18 20 38 -5 23 1 14 21 17 8 30 1.00
17 Dany Heatley SJS R 40 15 22 37 2 18 1 18 18 19 8 29 .92
18 Mike Richards PHI C 39 13 24 37 10 23 4 10 21 16 10 27 .95
19 Ryan Getzlaf ANA C 40 13 24 37 3 24 0 13 18 19 13 24 .92
20 Nicklas Backstrom WSH C 40 11 26 37 8 19 1 17 22 15 12 25 .92
21 Nicklas Lidstrom DET D 39 11 26 37 0 12 1 24 24 13 8 29 .95
22 Paul Stastny COL C 38 15 21 36 3 23 1 12 18 18 8 28 .95
23 Ryan Kesler VAN C 38 19 16 35 14 21 0 14 20 15 8 27 .92
24 Alexander Semin WSH L 37 18 17 35 8 20 1 14 26 9 16 19 .95
25 Jonathan Toews CHI C 39 16 19 35 8 18 0 17 19 16 11 24 .90
26 Jarome Iginla CGY R 40 16 19 35 -3 25 0 10 17 18 9 26 .88
27 Claude Giroux PHI R 39 16 19 35 4 21 4 10 22 13 11 24 .90
28 Ryane Clowe SJS L 40 11 24 35 8 30 0 5 16 19 7 28 .88
29 Derek Roy BUF C 35 10 25 35 -1 21 0 14 19 16 9 26 1.00
30 Joe Thornton SJS C 38 10 25 35 -9 13 1 21 20 15 7 28 .92
31 Teemu Selanne ANA R 33 10 24 34 2 19 0 15 16 18 8 26 1.03
32 Mikko Koivu MIN C 38 9 25 34 8 20 1 13 16 18 10 24 .89
33 Martin Havlat MIN R 38 8 26 34 -2 23 0 11 22 12 10 24 .89
34 Tobias Enstrom ATL D 42 7 27 34 6 15 1 18 16 18 4 30 .81
35 Dustin Brown LAK R 39 16 17 33 16 24 0 9 15 18 7 26 .85
36 Jeff Carter PHI C 39 16 17 33 8 22 0 11 18 15 9 24 .85
37 Justin Williams LAK R 39 15 18 33 12 25 0 8 21 12 4 29 .85
38 Evgeni Malkin PIT C 35 14 19 33 -1 20 0 13 21 12 7 26 .94
39 Kris Letang PIT D 40 6 27 33 20 21 1 11 17 16 8 25 .82
40 Brandon Dubinsky NYR C 40 16 16 32 -2 20 3 9 15 17 16 16 .80
41 Andrew Ladd ATL L 42 13 19 32 -7 17 3 12 15 17 9 23 .76
42 Tomas Plekanec MTL C 39 12 20 32 5 22 1 9 21 11 9 23 .82
43 Milan Hejduk COL R 32 11 21 32 -5 18 0 14 16 16 8 24 1.00
44 Mike Ribeiro DAL C 40 6 26 32 1 21 0 11 19 13 9 23 .80
45 Rick Nash CBJ R 38 18 13 31 -2 23 0 8 17 14 5 26 .82
46 Johan Franzen DET R 38 17 14 31 2 22 0 9 20 11 7 24 .82
47 Alex Tanguay CGY L 40 10 21 31 3 25 0 6 19 12 12 19 .78
48 Danny Briere PHI R 36 18 12 30 15 23 0 7 11 19 7 23 .83
49 Patrick Marleau SJS L 40 15 15 30 -14 13 1 16 23 7 9 21 .75
50 James Neal DAL L 40 14 16 30 12 24 0 6 18 12 8 22 .75
51 Ryan Malone TBL L 39 10 20 30 -4 14 0 16 14 16 6 24 .77
52 David Backes STL R 38 10 20 30 11 20 1 9 19 11 15 15 .79
53 Lubomir Visnovsky ANA D 41 7 23 30 5 19 0 11 18 12 7 23 .73
54 John-Michael Liles COL D 39 5 25 30 9 19 0 11 14 16 5 25 .77
55 Patrick Kane CHI R 32 11 18 29 -9 18 0 11 14 15 7 22 .91
56 Clarke MacArthur TOR L 38 10 19 29 -1 18 0 11 17 12 8 21 .76
57 Keith Yandle PHX D 38 6 23 29 -4 12 1 16 15 14 11 18 .76
58 Dan Boyle SJS D 40 5 24 29 -5 11 0 18 14 15 7 22 .72
59 Milan Lucic BOS L 38 16 12 28 13 22 0 6 14 14 7 21 .74
60 Bobby Ryan ANA R 42 15

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01-04-2011, 08:19 PM
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we have what.. like 6 or 7 million in cap space still to work with?

is there a web site that shows which players will be UFA next season? I assume that any of those players who are teams outside the playoff bubble will be available come the deadline?

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I'd say Penner and/or Vandermeer seem plausible. I don't see Lombardi adding a dman who is signed beyond the end of the season, and Vandermeer seems to fit the idea of having a tough player in the arsenal in case they need someone for physical play (and also to get Drewiske off the ice).

Penner is probably the only top six LW that may be worth taking a look at. Although he could be a risky player to take on, he has one year remaining and it might be the most cost effective move to make. Edmonton could use Stoll back and it could enable the Kings to spread out their offense with the following lineup:

Penner-Kopitar-Brown
Smyth-Handzus-Williams
Sturm-Richardson-Simmonds
Clifford-Lewis-Ponikarovsky/Westgarth

Mitchell-Doughty
Johnson-Scuderi
Martinez/Vandermeer-Greene

Moving Stoll would also give the Kings the option to re-sign Handzus and bring up Schenn. I think Handzus and his leadership might serve the Kings and Schenn better than Stoll.

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A year ago I would have said to keep Zus over Stoll.

Now... not so much.

Smyth-Zus-Willy sounds like a good line, because their board work would be amazing, but Willy can't carry that line in terms of speed. He is fast, but there needs to be someone else with some moderate to good wheels to go with Smyth imo.

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A year ago I would have said to keep Zus over Stoll.

Now... not so much.

Smyth-Zus-Willy sounds like a good line, because their board work would be amazing, but Willy can't carry that line in terms of speed. He is fast, but there needs to be someone else with some moderate to good wheels to go with Smyth imo.
I was thinking about that and did consider having Richardson centering that line, but I'm not sure he has the playmaking ability or the strength to endure the ice time and abuse he is likely to face in such an increased role.

Another option could be to fast track Schenn once his season with Brandon is over, but that is improbable due to their likely deep playoff run. I'm also not sold on other players being called up to fill that role at the time as Loktionov is better served completing his season in Manchester and Lewis is still learning the craft as a checking line forward.

One possibility is to move Smyth to C (where he was used at quite often in Edmonton), and have Sturm play LW on the 2nd line.

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I'd say Penner and/or Vandermeer seem plausible. I don't see Lombardi adding a dman who is signed beyond the end of the season, and Vandermeer seems to fit the idea of having a tough player in the arsenal in case they need someone for physical play (and also to get Drewiske off the ice).

Penner is probably the only top six LW that may be worth taking a look at. Although he could be a risky player to take on, he has one year remaining and it might be the most cost effective move to make. Edmonton could use Stoll back and it could enable the Kings to spread out their offense with the following lineup:

Penner-Kopitar-Brown
Smyth-Handzus-Williams
Sturm-Richardson-Simmonds
Clifford-Lewis-Ponikarovsky/Westgarth

Mitchell-Doughty
Johnson-Scuderi
Martinez/Vandermeer-Greene

Moving Stoll would also give the Kings the option to re-sign Handzus and bring up Schenn. I think Handzus and his leadership might serve the Kings and Schenn better than Stoll.
Yah, I'm starting to like the idea of trading for Penner more and more each game the Kings lose. I despise players who get fat but hopefully he's learned his lesson, he looks like he's in good shape now and might be happier getting out of the Siberian winter of Edmonton and back to SoCal. I would think he would be motivated to play all out so he could stay here but you never know with this guy.

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Yah, I'm starting to like the idea of trading for Penner more and more each game the Kings lose. I despise players who get fat but hopefully he's learned his lesson, he looks like he's in good shape now and might be happier getting out of the Siberian winter of Edmonton and back to SoCal. I would think he would be motivated to play all out so he could stay here but you never know with this guy.
def would not mind having him on this team. If its the Penner of old he fits what the team is trying to do nicely.

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Yah, I'm starting to like the idea of trading for Penner more and more each game the Kings lose. I despise players who get fat but hopefully he's learned his lesson, he looks like he's in good shape now and might be happier getting out of the Siberian winter of Edmonton and back to SoCal. I would think he would be motivated to play all out so he could stay here but you never know with this guy.
def would not mind having him on this team. If its the Penner of old he fits what the team is trying to do nicely.

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I thought Penner killed us last game... would love to see him on the team. Definitely better than anyone else we've seen at that position recently.

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Oilers would likely want a roster player for Penner + a 1st rounder.

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Oilers would likely want a roster player for Penner + a 1st rounder.
Westgarth + a 1st.

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we have what.. like 6 or 7 million in cap space still to work with?

is there a web site that shows which players will be UFA next season? I assume that any of those players who are teams outside the playoff bubble will be available come the deadline?
There are probably clearer sites but this one is quite good at showing players contracts.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/

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Ales Hemsky anyone? 2 yrs. left at 4.1 million. He has injuries, so DL may want him?
Regardless I think he is a legit scoring threat?

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Assuming that we give up Stoll, Teubert, and 4th rd.
I have heard from a few Oilers fan that Teubert is exactly what they need in size and physicality. Is it too little? Too much? Not to mention Stoll gives them some size back as well.. Any other ideas as well?

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Ales Hemsky anyone? 2 yrs. left at 4.1 million. He has injuries, so DL may want him?
Regardless I think he is a legit scoring threat?

Sturm-Kopitar-Hemsky
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Assuming that we give up Stoll, Teubert, and 4th rd.
I have heard from a few Oilers fan that Teubert is exactly what they need in size and physicality. Is it too little? Too much? Not to mention Stoll gives them some size back as well.. Any other ideas as well?
Hemsky is too brittle, although that extra year gives DL some options if Williams doesnt want to come back. It'd be nice for once if we aquired a top tier talent without picking up someone who's either fragile or coming off a big injury. I hope DL can pick up more of a sniper too.

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Penner would be nice.

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Hi guys! Im new on the forums, but i have read the Kings threads for some time.

"Donít be stunned if David Booth is on the trading block."
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How about Booth, he's had concussions, but i think he would be worth the try?
What would we have to give Florida to get him?

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Hi guys! Im new on the forums, but i have read the Kings threads for some time.

"Donít be stunned if David Booth is on the trading block."
Harvey Fialkov, Florida Sun Sentinel

How about Booth, he's had concussions, but i think he would be worth the try?
What would we have to give Florida to get him?
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It would take A LOT to pry Booth from Florda, I suppose Stoll, Johnson, Hickey and a 1st for Booth and Weaver. I think that'll do

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It would take A LOT to pry Booth from Florda, I suppose Stoll, Johnson, Hickey and a 1st for Booth and Weaver. I think that'll do
Yeah, Weaver would also be a great add, we'd get Drewiske off the ice

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Yeah, Weaver would also be a great add, we'd get Drewiske off the ice
Booth is amazing, but I think we'd be better off getting Penner instead.
Something like Tuebert, Elkins and a 1st for Penner

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