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01-04-2011, 10:58 AM
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If it was up to me, I wouldn't give up Giordano for anything. He should be made captain to a rebuilding team because he plays every shift like it's his last. That kind of attitude leading a young group is setting a dynasty tempo. Even after signing his new extension for big money, he's the only player on this team that comes out every night. He has the best work ethic on the team, he's gritty as sand paper, he has offensive upside, defensive responsibility, he can handle the media well, and he makes a resonable salary. If Calgary didn't have Reghre and Jaybow, then Giordano would be skating the kind of minutes that would have him noticed for the Norris, if he isn't already.
This Gio for captain all the way. He is the future of this team imo, get a C on his sweater if Iginla can be moved. He is exactly the type of player to lead this team to a better future. So glad we have him locked up long-term.

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Alright. I'll take my best shot on this. So I'm the GM....
First, talk to Iggy and Kipper and tell the both of them that I'm doing a full scale rebuild and that's that. Waive your NTC's/NMC's and for the top effort and loyalty you've always had to this franchise, I'll only send you to playoff teams or teams on the rise and soon to be set long term. Assuming they agree to the teams I want to deal them to....And assuming those teams make cap room where necessary....

1) Talk to LA. Iggy to LA for Simmonds and Schenn. That's not the deal, just what I'd need to be the principles of the trade. Also like Bernier but not likely to get him added in, unless they want Kipper too, which is unlikely with them having Quick and Bernier.

2) Move Kipper. I'd look to Washington (maybe with Regehr), Chicago, San Jose and maybe Colorado and Phili. Looking for the best prospect in return, supplemented by other prospects or picks. 1 great prospect plus a 1st would likely do it for me. (Looking for a big package from Caps if Reggie is included. Not looking for Semin. He's UFA soon, and even if he resigns, he costs us draft seeding while we still don't make the post-season for a few years).

3) With Iggy and Kipper gone, talk to Regehr (if Caps didn't include him) and J-Bo. Clear we're rebuilding. Struggle with us or move. They'll likely pick move. Other than Caps....Montreal could be interested. I don't think the Bruins are. Call every team that is up or on the way up and see. Looking for the best prospect or pick, or young player we can get for him. Maybe even the Blues have need?

4) J-Bo. Not too many teams could take on his contract, for his produstion. The Isles perhaps, surprisingly maybe the Oilers. Maybe the Blues. The Bruins if they can clear enough room without taking too much out of the current line-up, (doubt it fits). It'll be a tougher sell and he might rather stay with a rebuilding Flames than a perrenially stinking Isles. But remember, he is still pretty young, is the NHL's current iron man, and would likely provide better offensive numbers in a different system. Flame away but the Oilers might be the best fit here, IMHO. I'd love there first for him but won't hold my breath.

5) Collect as many mid-tier prospects and 2nd or 3rd round picks as you can for anybody looking to accept; Stajan, Staios (anything), Sarich, Hagman, Kotalik (yeah right), Jokinen, Babchuk, Tanguay, etc.

Note: Barring offers we can't refuse, we are keeping Bourque, Gio, Backlund, Brodie, Glencross (re-sign him!!), Kotsopolous (ditto), Nemisz, Howse....

Just where I'd start my plan for a full rebuild. Lets get a top prospect this year and agree to suck and collect a couple more for the next 2 or 3 years. Then we will have cash to throw at some top UFA's when we have enough deapth in youth to surround your future Gaboriks, Kovalchuks, Semins, etc available in UFA for top dollar. Grab one or 2 of these type players and we're looking good with these kids around them. Looking good for a long time. Just my opinion. Flame it like you may.

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since this was a thread I started I should finally put some ideas in here... currently I am leaning towards more of a mini-rebuild where we overhaul our centermen and only move 1 core player

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since this was a thread I started I should finally put some ideas in here... currently I am leaning towards more of a mini-rebuild where we overhaul our centermen and only move 1 core player
Regehr would be my first pick.

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Regehr would be my first pick.
mine too... i think if the players are willing to waive their NMCs a deal around Regehr+ for Lecavalier could be worked out.... and I know Vinny has a bad contract but he is still a #1 center and quite possibly the easiest to acquire

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mine too... i think if the players are willing to waive their NMCs a deal around Regehr+ for Lecavalier could be worked out.... and I know Vinny has a bad contract but he is still a #1 center and quite possibly the easiest to acquire
I would love Vinny, I still think he and Iginla would be capable of putting up some very decent numbers for a few years to come. Vinny is still only 30, I really think Iginla could revitalize his career.

Another couple of names to put out there are Spezza and Savard. I know this was looked at last summer, but it may be worth revisiting now. Ottawa is in a similar situation as us, and although it would be costly, Spezza now may be available for the right package. I would prefer Savard over Spezza though, because aquiring him would be considerably less.

Again, Vinny would be my first choice because he could be had for a decent price due to his contract and the fact that Tampa has a fairly deep prospect pool. I think something along the lines of Regehr, Nemisz and a high draft pick could get it done. They would have to take back some more salary as well, possibly Stajan?

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01-14-2011, 02:12 AM
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at Deadline...
to Flyers
LW - Curtis Glencross ( $1,200,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
LW - Daniel Carcillo ( $1,075,000 - RFA 2011 )
3rd in 2011
_______________

to Thrashers:
C - Brendan Morrison ( $725,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
3rd in 2011
_______________

Capitals:
D - Steve Staios ( $2,700,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
5th in 2011
_______________

to Sharks:
D - Anton Babchuk ( $1,400,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
2nd in 2011
_______________

to Penguins:
RW - Rene Bourque ( $3,333,333 - UFA 2016 )
LW - Niklas Hagman ( $3,000,000 - UFA 2012 )

to Flames
C - Jordan Staal ( $4,000,000 - UFA 2013 )
Salary doesn't matter who - up to $2,333,333
_______________

at Draft...

to Lightning:
D - Robyn Regehr ( $4,020,000 - UFA 2013 )
C - Mikael Backlund ( $1,270,833 - RFA 2012 )
2nd in 2012
Conditional Pick in 2013 - Based on Lecavalier's offensive Production in the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons. 160+ points = 1st. 150+ points = 2nd. Less than 150 points = 3rd.

to Flames
C - Vincent Lecavalier ( $7,727,273 - UFA 2020 )
_______________

Fire the entire coaching staff...

Hire Dale Hunter as head coach... allow him to bring in his own coaching staff

Resign...

Alex Tanguay - 2 years/$5,000,000
Brendan Mikkelson - 1 year/$650,000
Henrik Karlsson - 1 year/$600,000
Leland Irving - 2 yers/$1,200,000 1st year would be 2-way, $700,000. 2nd year would be 1-way, $500,000
Matt Pelech - 1 year/$500,000

Sign...

Tim Erixon to ELC - 3 years/$1,300,000 incl. bonuses
Simon Gagne - 1 year/$2,000,000

Leaves a roster like this next season...
Simon Gagne $2,000,000 - Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,273 - Jarome Iginla $7,000,000
Alex Tanguay $2,500,000 - Jordan Staal $4,000,000 - Matt Stajan $3,500,000
Dan Carcillo $1,200,000 - Olli Jokinen $3,000,000 - Greg Nemisz $1,045,833
Tom Kostopoulos $916,667 - David Moss $1,300,000 - Tim Jackman $550,000
Raitis Ivanans $600,000 - Stefan Meyer $512,500 - Buyout (Dawes) $141,667

Jay Bouwmeester $6,680,000 - Mark Giordano $4,020,000
Tim Erixon $1,300,000 - Cory Sarich $3,600,000
TJ Brodie $741,666 - Brendan Mikkelson $700,000
Matt Pelech $500,000

Miikka Kiprusoff $5,833,333 - Henrik Karlsson $600,000

this would leave us about 575k over the current cap... but assuming it raises the projected 2+ million we will have space for that 575k as well as the cap penalty for the bonuses Backlund and Brodie may have reached


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Find a way to acquire Niclas Bergfors from Atlanta and Dainus Zubrus from New Jersey.

No rebuild.

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Find a way to acquire Niclas Bergfors from Atlanta and Dainus Zubrus from New Jersey.

No rebuild.
i understand the Bergfors suggestion but Zubrus?... 3.4 million for 15ish goals and 40ish points is not worth it regardless of everything else he brings to the table... its guys like Cullen and Zubrus are the reason I can see Glencross asking 3+ million on his next contract

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Alright. I'll take my best shot on this. So I'm the GM....
First, talk to Iggy and Kipper and tell the both of them that I'm doing a full scale rebuild and that's that. Waive your NTC's/NMC's and for the top effort and loyalty you've always had to this franchise, I'll only send you to playoff teams or teams on the rise and soon to be set long term. Assuming they agree to the teams I want to deal them to....And assuming those teams make cap room where necessary....

1) Talk to LA. Iggy to LA for Simmonds and Schenn. That's not the deal, just what I'd need to be the principles of the trade. Also like Bernier but not likely to get him added in, unless they want Kipper too, which is unlikely with them having Quick and Bernier.

2) Move Kipper. I'd look to Washington (maybe with Regehr), Chicago, San Jose and maybe Colorado and Phili. Looking for the best prospect in return, supplemented by other prospects or picks. 1 great prospect plus a 1st would likely do it for me. (Looking for a big package from Caps if Reggie is included. Not looking for Semin. He's UFA soon, and even if he resigns, he costs us draft seeding while we still don't make the post-season for a few years).

3) With Iggy and Kipper gone, talk to Regehr (if Caps didn't include him) and J-Bo. Clear we're rebuilding. Struggle with us or move. They'll likely pick move. Other than Caps....Montreal could be interested. I don't think the Bruins are. Call every team that is up or on the way up and see. Looking for the best prospect or pick, or young player we can get for him. Maybe even the Blues have need?

4) J-Bo. Not too many teams could take on his contract, for his produstion. The Isles perhaps, surprisingly maybe the Oilers. Maybe the Blues. The Bruins if they can clear enough room without taking too much out of the current line-up, (doubt it fits). It'll be a tougher sell and he might rather stay with a rebuilding Flames than a perrenially stinking Isles. But remember, he is still pretty young, is the NHL's current iron man, and would likely provide better offensive numbers in a different system. Flame away but the Oilers might be the best fit here, IMHO. I'd love there first for him but won't hold my breath.

5) Collect as many mid-tier prospects and 2nd or 3rd round picks as you can for anybody looking to accept; Stajan, Staios (anything), Sarich, Hagman, Kotalik (yeah right), Jokinen, Babchuk, Tanguay, etc.

Note: Barring offers we can't refuse, we are keeping Bourque, Gio, Backlund, Brodie, Glencross (re-sign him!!), Kotsopolous (ditto), Nemisz, Howse....

Just where I'd start my plan for a full rebuild. Lets get a top prospect this year and agree to suck and collect a couple more for the next 2 or 3 years. Then we will have cash to throw at some top UFA's when we have enough deapth in youth to surround your future Gaboriks, Kovalchuks, Semins, etc available in UFA for top dollar. Grab one or 2 of these type players and we're looking good with these kids around them. Looking good for a long time. Just my opinion. Flame it like you may.
The only idea I do not like is moving JB... he is the NHL iron man for heavens sakes... like Gio build around the guy. I doubt that all of Kipper - Iginla - Regehr would be moved though... who knows. I would dig that LA trade for Simmonds and Schenn.

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at Deadline...
to Flyers
LW - Curtis Glencross ( $1,200,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
LW - Daniel Carcillo ( $1,075,000 - RFA 2011 )
3rd in 2011
_______________

to Thrashers:
C - Brendan Morrison ( $725,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
3rd in 2011
_______________

Capitals:
D - Steve Staios ( $2,700,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
5th in 2011
_______________

to Sharks:
D - Anton Babchuk ( $1,400,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
2nd in 2011
_______________

to Penguins:
RW - Rene Bourque ( $3,333,333 - UFA 2016 )
LW - Niklas Hagman ( $3,000,000 - UFA 2012 )

to Flames
C - Jordan Staal ( $4,000,000 - UFA 2013 )
Salary doesn't matter who - up to $2,333,333
_______________

at Draft...

to Lightning:
D - Robyn Regehr ( $4,020,000 - UFA 2013 )
C - Mikael Backlund ( $1,270,833 - RFA 2012 )
2nd in 2012
Conditional Pick in 2013 - Based on Lecavalier's offensive Production in the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons. 160+ points = 1st. 150+ points = 2nd. Less than 150 points = 3rd.

to Flames
C - Vincent Lecavalier ( $7,727,273 - UFA 2020 )
_______________

Fire the entire coaching staff...

Hire Dale Hunter as head coach... allow him to bring in his own coaching staff

Resign...

Alex Tanguay - 2 years/$5,000,000
Brendan Mikkelson - 1 year/$650,000
Henrik Karlsson - 1 year/$600,000
Leland Irving - 2 yers/$1,200,000 1st year would be 2-way, $700,000. 2nd year would be 1-way, $500,000
Matt Pelech - 1 year/$500,000

Sign...

Tim Erixon to ELC - 3 years/$1,300,000 incl. bonuses
Simon Gagne - 1 year/$2,000,000

Leaves a roster like this next season...
Simon Gagne $2,000,000 - Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,273 - Jarome Iginla $7,000,000
Alex Tanguay $2,500,000 - Jordan Staal $4,000,000 - Matt Stajan $3,500,000
Dan Carcillo $1,200,000 - Olli Jokinen $3,000,000 - Greg Nemisz $1,045,833
Tom Kostopoulos $916,667 - David Moss $1,300,000 - Tim Jackman $550,000
Raitis Ivanans $600,000 - Stefan Meyer $512,500 - Buyout (Dawes) $141,667

Jay Bouwmeester $6,680,000 - Mark Giordano $4,020,000
Tim Erixon $1,300,000 - Cory Sarich $3,600,000
TJ Brodie $741,666 - Brendan Mikkelson $700,000
Matt Pelech $500,000

Miikka Kiprusoff $5,833,333 - Henrik Karlsson $600,000

this would leave us about 575k over the current cap... but assuming it raises the projected 2+ million we will have space for that 575k as well as the cap penalty for the bonuses Backlund and Brodie may have reached
True but also keep in mind there are 14 and not 13 forwards there as well. Carrying one less forward plus a projected cap increase would be good for a change (not presed right up against the cap a la Sutter)

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The only idea I do not like is moving JB... he is the NHL iron man for heavens sakes... like Gio build around the guy. I doubt that all of Kipper - Iginla - Regehr would be moved though... who knows. I would dig that LA trade for Simmonds and Schenn.
I think its doubtful that LA does this for Iggy, unless they may consider it if no 1st round draft pick came back. Possibly they would include a second round pick. So...

To LA:
Jarome Iginla

To Calgary:
Brayden Schenn
Wayne Simmonds
2nd rnd pick

I'd still probably do this because if we trade Iggy, because our 1st would likely become a lotto pick.


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Lunatik, those are all deals I would do. And I think they are fairly feasable as well. I am just not sure that the Pens would part with Staal, but that offer would definitely make them consider it.

The only other thing I would like to see would be Stajan dealt if those moves occur. I would move him for a mid level prospect and a 3rd round pick. That would give us extra cap space to go out and sign more of a true winger. But I actually really like that lineup and I love how mobile our defence would be. I think that would be a way more competive lineup than the one we are icing right now.

Nice work!!

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good job, I could definitely buy into what your selling


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at Deadline...
to Flyers
LW - Curtis Glencross ( $1,200,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
LW - Daniel Carcillo ( $1,075,000 - RFA 2011 )
3rd in 2011
_______________

to Thrashers:
C - Brendan Morrison ( $725,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
3rd in 2011
_______________

Capitals:
D - Steve Staios ( $2,700,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
5th in 2011
_______________

to Sharks:
D - Anton Babchuk ( $1,400,000 - UFA 2011 )

to Flames
2nd in 2011
_______________

to Penguins:
RW - Rene Bourque ( $3,333,333 - UFA 2016 )
LW - Niklas Hagman ( $3,000,000 - UFA 2012 )

to Flames
C - Jordan Staal ( $4,000,000 - UFA 2013 )
Salary doesn't matter who - up to $2,333,333
_______________

at Draft...

to Lightning:
D - Robyn Regehr ( $4,020,000 - UFA 2013 )
C - Mikael Backlund ( $1,270,833 - RFA 2012 )
2nd in 2012
Conditional Pick in 2013 - Based on Lecavalier's offensive Production in the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons. 160+ points = 1st. 150+ points = 2nd. Less than 150 points = 3rd.

to Flames
C - Vincent Lecavalier ( $7,727,273 - UFA 2020 )
_______________

Fire the entire coaching staff...

Hire Dale Hunter as head coach... allow him to bring in his own coaching staff

Resign...

Alex Tanguay - 2 years/$5,000,000
Brendan Mikkelson - 1 year/$650,000
Henrik Karlsson - 1 year/$600,000
Leland Irving - 2 yers/$1,200,000 1st year would be 2-way, $700,000. 2nd year would be 1-way, $500,000
Matt Pelech - 1 year/$500,000

Sign...

Tim Erixon to ELC - 3 years/$1,300,000 incl. bonuses
Simon Gagne - 1 year/$2,000,000

Leaves a roster like this next season...
Simon Gagne $2,000,000 - Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,273 - Jarome Iginla $7,000,000
Alex Tanguay $2,500,000 - Jordan Staal $4,000,000 - Matt Stajan $3,500,000
Dan Carcillo $1,200,000 - Olli Jokinen $3,000,000 - Greg Nemisz $1,045,833
Tom Kostopoulos $916,667 - David Moss $1,300,000 - Tim Jackman $550,000
Raitis Ivanans $600,000 - Stefan Meyer $512,500 - Buyout (Dawes) $141,667

Jay Bouwmeester $6,680,000 - Mark Giordano $4,020,000
Tim Erixon $1,300,000 - Cory Sarich $3,600,000
TJ Brodie $741,666 - Brendan Mikkelson $700,000
Matt Pelech $500,000

Miikka Kiprusoff $5,833,333 - Henrik Karlsson $600,000

this would leave us about 575k over the current cap... but assuming it raises the projected 2+ million we will have space for that 575k as well as the cap penalty for the bonuses Backlund and Brodie may have reached

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I am just not completely sold on the Lecavlier thing but that team does look pretty good. Don't know if TB lets Gagne go if they lose Lecavlier, thats a lot of pressure to put on their top line for the next season. I also agree with MVW about getting rid of Stajan if thats how are lines look, maybe another big winger like Clowe.

I would also maybe keep a close eye on Zherdev during free agency


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I am just not completely sold on the Lecavlier thing but that team does look pretty good. Don't know if TB lets Gagne go if they lose Lecavlier, thats a lot of pressure to put on their top line for the next season. I also agree with MVW about getting rid of Stajan if thats how are lines look, maybe another big winger like Clowe.
Yes, for 3 million we could get a way more productive winger than what Stajan would be. A big strong guy like Clowe would fit in great there. Possibly another option there would be to sign Zherdev as he will be a UFA and probably cost about 2.5 million? I've watched him quite abit this season and he actually has looked really impressive. His stats do not reflect it, but he has mostly been playing on Philly's 3rd and 4th lines due to all their depth they have.

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Yes, for 3 million we could get a way more productive winger than what Stajan would be. A big strong guy like Clowe would fit in great there. Possibly another option there would be to sign Zherdev as he will be a UFA and probably cost about 2.5 million? I've watched him quite abit this season and he actually has looked really impressive. His stats do not reflect it, but he has mostly been playing on Philly's 3rd and 4th lines due to all their depth they have.
Just edited my post to include Zherdev, he would be a good pickup for sure

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Find a way to acquire Niclas Bergfors from Atlanta and Dainus Zubrus from New Jersey.

No rebuild.
Oh. So your strategy is a lottery pick for a couple of years in a row?

Let's add Redden, Souray & Zherdev too.

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Leaves a roster like this next season...
Simon Gagne $2,000,000 - Vincent Lecavalier $7,727,273 - Jarome Iginla $7,000,000
Alex Tanguay $2,500,000 - Jordan Staal $4,000,000 - Matt Stajan $3,500,000
Dan Carcillo $1,200,000 - Olli Jokinen $3,000,000 - Greg Nemisz $1,045,833
Tom Kostopoulos $916,667 - David Moss $1,300,000 - Tim Jackman $550,000
Raitis Ivanans $600,000 - Stefan Meyer $512,500 - Buyout (Dawes) $141,667

Jay Bouwmeester $6,680,000 - Mark Giordano $4,020,000
Tim Erixon $1,300,000 - Cory Sarich $3,600,000
TJ Brodie $741,666 - Brendan Mikkelson $700,000
Matt Pelech $500,000

Miikka Kiprusoff $5,833,333 - Henrik Karlsson $600,000

this would leave us about 575k over the current cap... but assuming it raises the projected 2+ million we will have space for that 575k as well as the cap penalty for the bonuses Backlund and Brodie may have reached
i would be extremely disappointed if feaster acquired vinny. he's overpaid and is under contract until 2020!

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i would be extremely disappointed if feaster acquired vinny. he's overpaid and is under contract until 2020!
Exactly, And everyone complains about stajan'/bouwmeester's contracts.

Add on to that we are trading two very valuable assets in Regehr and Backlund + Two picks in the top 90' in consecutive years.

That is a move I would not even consider (That would set us even further back IMO), The rest I am on board with.

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The more I think about it I definitely wouldn't go after Lecavlier. That contract is just ridiculous, and if things didn't work out here he would be impossible to move. I would rather use those pieces to take a gamble on someone like Brassard rather then an older player, have to think more long term.

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The more I think about it I definitely wouldn't go after Lecavlier. That contract is just ridiculous, and if things didn't work out here he would be impossible to move.

Exactly. We're trying to get rid of bad contracts, not acquire more.

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It really depends on what direction this team tries to go. If you try and win with Iginla, Lecavalier really is not that bad of an option. The emergence of Stamkos has him playing a reduced role, and injury problems have not helped his production either. IF Calgary aquired him, he would still be the best centre this team has had since the 90's. If you move out Regehr and Stajan, that alone clears enough room for him. He is a big centre, and one of the best passers still in the NHL. I would argue that if the Flames aquired him he would be the best centre that Iginla has ever played with. And they would potentially have 5 years really good years of productive hockey left to play.

Of course if the direction is a full rebuild, then trading for Vinny makes no sense whatsoever. You are better off trading Regehr, Iginla, or Kipper for that bluechip prospect or high draft picks. But IMO, if you try and win with Iginla, there simply are not much better available options out there other than Vinny. Quite simply Calgary is not in a position to take another gamble on getting Iginla a centre that he has to make better. He needs someone that plays and understands the game on his level. Lecavalier can do that, not many other centres can.

Savard may be an option, although his injuries and concusions scare the heck out of me. And Spezza would likely cost any other depth that this organization has. Backstrom, Thorton, M. Richards, Carter, Kopitar and Crosby are going no where. B. Richards may be an option, but I doubt it is likely he would resign here this offseason. If Feaster tries to win with this core, there really are not alot of other options out there.

And if all else fails, we could always trade him to TO.

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It really depends on what direction this team tries to go. If you try and win with Iginla, Lecavalier really is not that bad of an option. The emergence of Stamkos has him playing a reduced role, and injury problems have not helped his production either. IF Calgary aquired him, he would still be the best centre this team has had since the 90's. If you move out Regehr and Stajan, that alone clears enough room for him. He is a big centre, and one of the best passers still in the NHL. I would argue that if the Flames aquired him he would be the best centre that Iginla has ever played with. And they would potentially have 5 years really good years of productive hockey left to play.

Of course if the direction is a full rebuild, then trading for Vinny makes no sense whatsoever. You are better off trading Regehr, Iginla, or Kipper for that bluechip prospect or high draft picks. But IMO, if you try and win with Iginla, there simply are not much better available options out there other than Vinny. Quite simply Calgary is not in a position to take another gamble on getting Iginla a centre that he has to make better. He needs someone that plays and understands the game on his level. Lecavalier can do that, not many other centres can.

Savard may be an option, although his injuries and concusions scare the heck out of me. And Spezza would likely cost any other depth that this organization has. Backstrom, Thorton, M. Richards, Carter, Kopitar and Crosby are going no where. B. Richards may be an option, but I doubt it is likely he would resign here this offseason. If Feaster tries to win with this core, there really are not alot of other options out there.

And if all else fails, we could always trade him to TO.
Really you think they could have 5 years of good production with Iggy being 33 and him 30. That is not a top line that makes you a contender!

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I"ll personally take a MAJOR pass on both Savard and Lecavallier.

They both have short term risks to consider, AND long term contract issue's that would severely hamper our team down the road.

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