I know this season, or even this off-season it is extremely unlikely that Toronto has the assets to satisfy LA's need, but under which circumstances and at which point in time could you see Brayden joining Luke in TO.
I think it is widely agreeable that up to this deadline there is zero chance of any stars aligning that would place Brayden in Toronto. That leaves during the draft or offseason as the next possible option.
Let's first take a look at LA's needs at this point in time. During this off-season the following LA forwards will be hitting FA:
Handzus C 4M
Williams W 3.5M
Sturm W 3.5M
Now, I admit I don't have a lot of knowledge as to how these players are coveted by LA but my assumption is that I see all of these players hitting the market. You can correct me if I am wrong.
Next out of the forwards the have Richardson, Simmonds and Lewis to be resigned at RFA.
Before consideration of UFA signings, LA's Forward group will look like this going into this off-season:
Smyth Kopitar Brown
Clifford Stoll Simmonds
Parse Lewis Westgarth
I am a little iffy on the exact positioning of some of the players, particularly where Parse, Richardson and Westgarth are slotted but this is my general understanding.
It is fairly clear that LA would be happy with their Centre position if Schenn can come in next season and take a 2/3 line C role. Best case scenario with Schenn at 2nd and Stoll remaining the checking 3 like C.
As for the wings, personally, I think there is a week set of wingers here. Beyond arguably an overrated brown, who I believe is best suited as a secondary forward role and an aging Ryan Smyth, there isn't a lot that jumps out at you.
I don't know if LA fans are happy with Clifford playing on a scoring line, let alone above the 4th line. Simmonds seams to be a good fit on LA and would be fine on a second line role with upside still there.
With all of this in mind, it's clear that LA needs to address bringing in some wingers going forward.
Moving on to D, it looks very solid going forward. With JJ, Doughty, Scuderi, Mitchell, and Greene as the main pieces only depth at D is needed going forward.
Doughty and JJ need to be resigned this summer and my guess as to value (can be argued) would have Doughty at a 5M~ value over 4 or so years and JJ at slightly less.
Let's say combined, these players will fetch 9.5~ in space. Add that to next year's committed cap hit of 35M~ and we stand at 44.5M~ committed.
I assume the combo of Richardson, Simmonds and Lewis will not command too much so I'll say 5M~ generously spread across those 3 players, bringing the cap hit to 49.5M. At goal there is obviously no concerns with Quick and Bernier going forward, which leaves LA with roughly 10M~ in cap space to go after forward help, which is quite a bit.
There isn't a lot of talent in this year's UFA market outside of Semin and Richards. Maybe players like Ryder, Tanguay, Cole, Jokinen, Hejduk, Gagne could be had for LA and let's assume for sake of argument that LA is able to sign one of these players. Adding that player into LA's forward group, do you think LA still needs to acquire forward help?
Would LA be interested in going after a Versteeg, Kulemin, or MacArthur from the Leafs this offseason that includes Brayden coming back? I, personally don't see it happening.
Can we agree it is extremely unlikely Brayden is acquired by TO this offseason? So then when would the possibility arise?
What if Brayden struggles to crack LA's lineup next season and LA is now in need of Centre help. Do they go after Grabovski hard enough to move Schenn? I still don't see it.
I think the only way for Brayden to find his way onto the Leafs roster is if he struggles next season and into the following season at which point the leafs would still have to overpay to get him.
Jesus H. stop with the B. Schenn threads to T.O. We have Kadri who greatly outplayed Schenn last year at the world juniors. If Kadri was there now, he would be tearing it up as well.
Kadri is much more skilled while Schenn is tougher/grittier. I think Kadri will be the better player 5 years from now.
I would take Schenn over Kadri. Kadri is probably going to be a better point producer than Schenn, but Schenn also brings size, grit, and a physical presence that Kadri doesn't bring. I don't think Kadri will end up outscoring Schenn by enough of a margin to make up for the other elements of the game that Schenn can bring.
If they had won 1 less game, they would have drafted ahead of the Coyotes and Kings (Leafs had 81 pts, Coyotes and Kings had 79, but with 1 less win, the Leafs would have picked #5).
Not our fault the Leafs got the wrong Schenn but seriously, just STOP with the Brayden to the Leafs Trade Proposals ... it's NOT HAPPENING NOW or EVER !
Why are leafs fans SO obsessive over this ... I mean reading any leafs thread or Canadian post in the WJr'sC thread, B.Schenn sucks anyways, so why do you guys post threads trying to trade for him about 3 times a week ? edit: oops, my bad there's 3 on page 1 here in just 1 or 2 days
Originally Posted by kingpest19
Kadri as a 19 year old. 6gp 8pts. Schenn as a 19 year old 3gp 12 pts.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... you'll only encourage them to keep making these trade proposals