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01-10-2011, 09:54 PM
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Fack. My second line RW who also plays on my second power play unit just got injured for three days in training.

Would you guys place this guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=700760

or this guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=455892
as his replacement for dump and chase hockey. Kim is more talented but Polusen has a higher work rate and a good wrist shot, while Kim has no wrist shot. I remember someone saying wingers with good wrist shots are really helpful so I've been debating whether to even keep Kim next semester.

edit I guess another option is criss cross with Kim and these two
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edit- I guess what I want to know is, is having players with good wrist shots far more likely to result in goals than, if you have guys with slap shots but no wrister?


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My team is finally relatively healthy again, headed towards 99/99, and ready to dominate. With OPV's recovering health, I've bumped him from the 4th line LW to 2nd line RW... we'll see how he does, I'm pretty excited to see what kind of impact he makes.

I'm also looking forward to seeing if I can have him do like, 2nd line ES, and 2nd line PP, or if he can't handle that due to poor stamina.


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Fack. My second line RW who also plays on my second power play unit just got injured for three days in training.

Would you guys place this guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=700760

or this guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=455892
as his replacement for dump and chase hockey. Kim is more talented but Polusen has a higher work rate and a good wrist shot, while Kim has no wrist shot. I remember someone saying wingers with good wrist shots are really helpful so I've been debating whether to even keep Kim next semester.

edit I guess another option is criss cross with Kim and these two
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=376966
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=402105

edit- I guess what I want to know is, is having players with good wrist shots far more likely to result in goals than, if you have guys with slap shots but no wrister?
I put much more stock in wrist shots. Take a look at this guy: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=684789. Awesome slapper, mediocre wrister, solid passer. Most of his points come from assists. I actually have a fair number of players with solid slappers and average to weak wristers that hardly score goals: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=578413, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=126610, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=571163, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=58107, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=337606.

Some of them are more defensive guys and just don't score much in any way, but if a high slapper meant that much they'd bury some shots now and then. It just doesn't seem to help all that much for forwards.

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01-11-2011, 02:48 AM
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My team is finally relatively healthy again, headed towards 99/99, and ready to dominate. With OPV's recovering health, I've bumped him from the 4th line LW to 2nd line RW... we'll see how he does, I'm pretty excited to see what kind of impact he makes.

I'm also looking forward to seeing if I can have him do like, 2nd line ES, and 2nd line PP, or if he can't handle that due to poor stamina.
Every time you bring up OPV, I always remember me sitting there super early in the morning and I'm thinking if I should bid or not. I was just about to outbid you and take him, but my power went out right before I hit bid. I don't think I ever stated this, I was just so furiously pissed of that it happened at the time it did and didn't even want to think about it. **** I needed him.

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01-11-2011, 05:27 AM
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I love how everything is still a cluster****. Injuries from last match weren't run so it is anyone's guess if they are "real" or not. I am going to guess that if I take my player out, the injury won't matter and if I leave him in, then it will.

Then again, there is an equal chance that Nik won't fix his **** up today.

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This guy is dead:

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I put much more stock in wrist shots. Take a look at this guy: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=684789. Awesome slapper, mediocre wrister, solid passer. Most of his points come from assists. I actually have a fair number of players with solid slappers and average to weak wristers that hardly score goals: http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=578413, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=126610, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=571163, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=58107, http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=337606.

Some of them are more defensive guys and just don't score much in any way, but if a high slapper meant that much they'd bury some shots now and then. It just doesn't seem to help all that much for forwards.
Thanks, I remember something like that being said, I was just hoping it wasn't that true. it's pretty annoying because I have at least two good forwards that just don't have wrist shots. This guy is doing alright with it but, that's because he plays both pp and on my 2nd line.
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I love how everything is still a cluster****. Injuries from last match weren't run so it is anyone's guess if they are "real" or not. I am going to guess that if I take my player out, the injury won't matter and if I leave him in, then it will.

Then again, there is an equal chance that Nik won't fix his **** up today.
Yeah, I had a guy who got injured in training last night and had a fitness of 69, he was supposed to be out 3 days, he has a fitness of 93 now.

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01-11-2011, 07:41 AM
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Damn. I'm actually shocked his fitness isn't in the 30's. That's a long injury and all but he will be back in your lineup in 2 and a half weeks tops. I've seen 3 day injuries that drop Fitness so low that players are out for a month.

In other news, I'm fairly confident that this injury problem won't effect today's(sunday) game since I really don't think it's even going to be run. Nik is such a F up. Dude disappears for 2 weeks, comes back and opens a cute little thread where he tells everyone he's going to fix everything that day and then disappears and doesn't do a thing.

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I love how his personal dick suckers are saying things like, "Don't worry Nik, real life problems come first."

I thought to myself, "Somehow I don't think that's the philosophy of most Fortune 500 companies."

Yeah, my car broke 20 miles after purchasing it. But don't worry, dealership, your salesman was having personal issues...

You are in ****ing Portugal. You don't even speak the ****ing language. How the **** can you have personal issues? The issue is that you have no ****ing work ethic.

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I love how his personal dick suckers are saying things like, "Don't worry Nik, real life problems come first."

I thought to myself, "Somehow I don't think that's the philosophy of most Fortune 500 companies."

Yeah, my car broke 20 miles after purchasing it. But don't worry, dealership, your salesman was having personal issues...

You are in ****ing Portugal. You don't even speak the ****ing language. How the **** can you have personal issues? The issue is that you have no ****ing work ethic.
The guy has the immune system of a crack addicted preemie. His personal issues consist of crying every time Magic Johnson hangs up on him as he begs for his secret.

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The guy has the immune system of a crack addicted preemie. His personal issues consist of crying every time Magic Johnson hangs up on him as he begs for his secret.
Brilliant.

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The big matchup between myself and Agrudez is on Friday. I'd honestly be surprised if I win. My team has been playing like ass lately, don't know why.
That game may very well determine whether I finish the season undefeated in regulation or not. I only see 2 teams capable of handing me a loss on my schedule, you and the Hamsters, and the Hamsters have already lost twice to me in a SO, so I would be extremely surprised if our 3rd and last game doesn't go to OT.

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Agrudez I can't say I'm particularly happy with your decision to stop posting in the TH forums but I understand and respect it.
Well, the forums have officially become Germany circa 1942. 2 day or even permanent FORUM bans for cursing someone off or being a general dick is understandable (and expected), but a GAME ban for telling a troll off who just questioned your integrity after you spent 6ish hours formulating a robust calculation to help an aspect of the game that gives you no personal gain, and after most of your posts advocate making changes that would actually hurt your team moving forward, is ********.

Nik chose many of his teamsters quite poorly, imo (you are solid, and Dave is growing on me despite a few obvious trade **** attempts early in my career, though). From the idiot who threatened to forum ban players who disagreed with him on the forums in his best attempt at coherent English to the now obviously power corrupted Mr. Kessog threatening game bans for forum proceedings. **** 'em.

On another note, am I the only one that questions Tim Cruser's competence in handling the economy overhaul? There were at least two instances where he was mistaken about basic game mechanics and he in general just seems less than capable of performing such a task. The majority of the forum has been:

Tim: "Oh, let's make this really small change"

Random Poster: "rabble, rabble (insert country name here) is the bestest hockey country in the world and deserves the most money rabble, rabble."

Tim: "Oh OK! I'll give you guys more money, does everyone agree?"

The task should have been handed to someone with a higher acumen and the ability to think outside the box.

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I love how his personal dick suckers are saying things like, "Don't worry Nik, real life problems come first."

I thought to myself, "Somehow I don't think that's the philosophy of most Fortune 500 companies."

Yeah, my car broke 20 miles after purchasing it. But don't worry, dealership, your salesman was having personal issues...

You are in ****ing Portugal. You don't even speak the ****ing language. How the **** can you have personal issues? The issue is that you have no ****ing work ethic.
It seems to me that the story has changed a few times, but whatever. We all know Nik just wanted to enjoy his holiday, which is all fine and dandy, but he could at least make an effort to post SOMETHING to tell us what is going on. For ****s sake, how long does it take to just log on and straight out LIE and say that you will work on it. You could even stay logged in all day to give people the illusion that you are working when you're not.

As for the dick suckers, they are hilariously delusional, but seemingly quickly dwindling.

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Every time you bring up OPV, I always remember me sitting there super early in the morning and I'm thinking if I should bid or not. I was just about to outbid you and take him, but my power went out right before I hit bid. I don't think I ever stated this, I was just so furiously pissed of that it happened at the time it did and didn't even want to think about it. **** I needed him.
Smartphones, bro. Also, I might let him go in the offseason if my cap doesn't go up a good bit, so there's a chance you could pick him up in FA or I could just trade him to you.

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On another note, am I the only one that questions Tim Cruser's competence in handling the economy overhaul? There were at least two instances where he was mistaken about basic game mechanics and he in general just seems less than capable of performing such a task. The majority of the forum has been:

Tim: "Oh, let's make this really small change"

Random Poster: "rabble, rabble (insert country name here) is the bestest hockey country in the world and deserves the most money rabble, rabble."

Tim: "Oh OK! I'll give you guys more money, does everyone agree?"

The task should have been handed to someone with a higher acumen and the ability to think outside the box.
He seems to have spare time and Nik's trust but, well, little else going for him. He does seem nice enough but I'm not sure his recommendations are going to be good ones.

First and foremost, the game lacks a mission statement. From a game design standpoint, things are a mess. European and NA players expect different things and the game is still a weird mish-mash of the NHL, Euro Leagues, and Soccer. It's kind of absurd.

That being said, the guts of the game are strong. Bugs need to be ironed out, existing systems need tweaking, and promised systems need to be implement. However, none of those are a herculean tasks.

What people don't understand is that any change to the draft or economy takes several season, minimum, to be fully understood. That is why a relatively few number of small, incremental changes is what is needed. Not a huge reset and not a huge upheaval in the economy.

As an aside, talk of a reset is silly in the context of my points above. If you agree that changes in the economy have longterm affects, then resetting the game before fully seeing those affects is counterproductive and sets the stage for multiple resets... which would kill the game.

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As an aside, talk of a reset is silly in the context of my points above. If you agree that changes in the economy have longterm affects, then resetting the game before fully seeing those affects is counterproductive and sets the stage for multiple resets... which would kill the game.
I certainly see your point (and have actually argued it many times in the past) that the past offseason was an anomaly and created many different 'unique' dynamics that will not occur again in any other offseason. However, imo, a reset would do more than just "fix" the economy, it would also balance league talent, separate Pro vs. Amateur, reinstitute the draft as a viable tool, reorganize FA for the better and remove the need for Nik's current economic inflation.

A reset fixes just about every problem the game currently has, and this is coming from someone who would be losing an undefeated team in US 3.x that has a better team strength than most 2.x teams.

It is a win-win situation for me. No reset means I get to keep my broken team, put up absurd winning percentages every season and likely be in 1.1 before 2012. A reset means that I get to play in a competitive league and be able to use the draft (finally). Both sound fun to me, although, a fantasy dispersal draft certainly tips the "fun" scale heavily towards one side, imo.

As an aside, I know the real reason you don't want a player reset Val, but Westfield will always live on... in your heart.

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As an aside, I know the real reason you don't want a player reset Val, but Westfield will always live on... in your heart.
You don't have the right to speak his name, peasant!

I actually will be sad when we all have ****** teams of 60 EPA players with no superstars nor personality. The game will be boring.

Everyone on this board will still have awesome teams (it might take a few seasons of trading and drafting, but still it will happen) and we will all be just as dominant as we are now. We just won't be bragging about our superstars since we won't have any. Instead, we'll be bragging about line tactics. Whoop-de-doo.

To be honest, TH already lacks personality as players are generally just numbers in most cases. The math involved in the game is either way too obvious (as in player ratings) or way too esoteric (as in the way the game makes some calculations during the ME.)

I'd have the players described with adjectives and keep things more hidden. I'd also have way more traits and have the traits have many possible different effects in regards to everything from finances, training, and in game performance.

I shouldn't be able to throw my players into a spreadsheet and automatically win 30+ games.

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Thanks, I remember something like that being said, I was just hoping it wasn't that true. it's pretty annoying because I have at least two good forwards that just don't have wrist shots. This guy is doing alright with it but, that's because he plays both pp and on my 2nd line.
http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=402105
Well it doesn't really become a huge issue until you get to 2.x. Guys with weak wrist shots but strong puck possession or something can still put up great numbers in the lower leagues. You'll have to replace them as you move up, but they'll still help you get to that point. I mean, this guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=571163 can't pass or shoot and was a 20 point guy until I moved up. This guy http://trophyhockey.org/player.php?id=58107 can't shoot or control the puck but he still put up 30 assists one year. A single strong offensive attribute can go a long way before you get into the higher leagues.

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Smartphones, bro. Also, I might let him go in the offseason if my cap doesn't go up a good bit, so there's a chance you could pick him up in FA or I could just trade him to you.
Haha yeah... next day I got an iPhone. Not because of that though (that'd be weird), ironic though.

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I got an iPhone the day after I missed a Flyers game because T-Mobile didn't send me any of the texts I was supposed to get. And I got it purely because of that. **** T-Mobile.

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I just realized that my regular season career record in TH is 66-8-2, that is a 0.882 points %, and I would very much like a cookie.

14-3-2 in the playoffs, too.

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If you ignore the season I tanked and this year, which isn't complete, I'm at like, 86.6%

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You tanked a season on purpose?

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No, we won't ignore that.

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I went 14-8-1 with my previous team of crap.

My overall regular season win% is at 75%.

As for playoffs, 8-0-0, 100%.

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I went 14-8-1 with my previous team of crap.

My overall regular season win% is at 75%.

As for playoffs, 8-0-0, 100%.
Jeeze, I didn't know you had a clean sweep of your last league's playoffs. Good luck doing that again this year.

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