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01-02-2011, 05:35 AM
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Do backup goalies ever go to play AHL games?

I'm just wondering.. would it be allowed to have your backup play an AHL game?

I'm just thinking that in the week prior to biron getting a start, he skips practice and plays a game for the whalepack instead. There's no real replacement for a real game. This is especially the case when he hasn't played for a month. there's no way a goalie is going to be as good when he's sat on the bench that long.

It's not because the goalie has anything to prove in the AHL, it'd just be a more effective practice before the real game.

At the start of last game biron's play did seem subpar at points, and it seemed like he wasn't as sharp as he should be because he hasn't played in about a dozen games. There's no way a goalie can get into their groove in a practice, but an AHL game can provide them that opportunity.

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not possible if said goalie is on a one-way contract unfortunately

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The only scenario where he could go to the pack (ehhh whale) is if he was waived I think. Then if he cleared he'd be sent down and when we wanted him back he'd have to clear re entry? But obviously the rangers aren't doing that.

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not possible if said goalie is on a one-way contract unfortunately
yup, and u should see the work these guys get in practice. it would make no sense to put them in an ahl game...as for the nhl roster, its gotta be 23 men and u need 2 goalies. so the NYR would have to call goalie up or sign someone to a one day contract. having a veteran backup play at that level is useless.

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Anyone, when agreed to, can be sent down for conditioning. Not sure all the rules around that though..... if you need a documented injury or whatever. That said, it's not going to happen Biron has been around long enough that he knows how to practice to get ready for a game.

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There's no waiver for goalies anymore. It used to be in the olden olden days that not every NHL team carried a backup goalie and if one team's goalie was injured in a game the other team's backup goalie was allowed to replace him. It sounds insane now but that's the way it was.

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they did it with Johnson a few times last season..but Biron has a totally diff. contract.

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it's not like Biron hasn't been practicing just as hard as everyone else on the team.

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I'm just wondering.. would it be allowed to have your backup play an AHL game?

I'm just thinking that in the week prior to biron getting a start, he skips practice and plays a game for the whalepack instead. There's no real replacement for a real game. This is especially the case when he hasn't played for a month. there's no way a goalie is going to be as good when he's sat on the bench that long.

It's not because the goalie has anything to prove in the AHL, it'd just be a more effective practice before the real game.

At the start of last game biron's play did seem subpar at points, and it seemed like he wasn't as sharp as he should be because he hasn't played in about a dozen games. There's no way a goalie can get into their groove in a practice, but an AHL game can provide them that opportunity.
Players on the NHL roster who must pass through waivers to be assigned to the AHL can only be sent down to the AHL with their permission for one conditioning assignment (of up to 2 weeks) per season.

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There's no waiver for goalies anymore. It used to be in the olden olden days that not every NHL team carried a backup goalie and if one team's goalie was injured in a game the other team's backup goalie was allowed to replace him. It sounds insane now but that's the way it was.
I don't think any team carried a backup goalie until the 1960s--it wasn't mandated by the league until around 1965. What happened when a goalie became injuried was that a "house" goalie would come in. This goalie was hired by the home team and usually had played in college or wherever.

Or in the case of a Stanley Cup final game--as happened in 1928--the coach took over and helped his team win the game and ultimately the Stanley Cup.

Here's a recent article about current house goalies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/31/sp...r=1&ref=hockey

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There's no waiver for goalies anymore. It used to be in the olden olden days that not every NHL team carried a backup goalie and if one team's goalie was injured in a game the other team's backup goalie was allowed to replace him. It sounds insane now but that's the way it was.
Goalies still have to go through waivers.

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practice is practice though, it's never the same as a real game.

And the reconditioning stint is what I was thinking of. You're not taking the goalie off the roster, or taking away part of his cap hit for the season, you're just getting him the ice time so he's playing somewhere.

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practice is practice though, it's never the same as a real game.

And the reconditioning stint is what I was thinking of. You're not taking the goalie off the roster, or taking away part of his cap hit for the season, you're just getting him the ice time so he's playing somewhere.
Correct. But it can only be done once a season, with the player's permission.

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Correct. But it can only be done once a season, with the player's permission.
There's no intention of forcing it on a player.

It'd be the player's decision if he's feeling a little rusty he can do an AHL game to try and clear that up before the real thing.

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