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01-06-2011, 08:12 PM
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Sounds like 50%

Semin for Langs and Arnott is kind of dumb

I'm all for getting Arnott, but I think he could be had for a draft pick so long as he agrees to waive his NTC meaning he would really want to be on said team
Disagree. Semin for Langs and Arnott is tripped-out-Lindsay-Lohan moronic.

Langway has said it a few times, but the only rental really worth dealing Semin for would be Brad Richards.

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01-06-2011, 09:32 PM
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Disagree. Semin for Langs and Arnott is tripped-out-Lindsay-Lohan moronic.

Langway has said it a few times, but the only rental really worth dealing Semin for would be Brad Richards.
I would take that in a heartbeat!

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01-06-2011, 09:35 PM
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I would take that in a heartbeat!
Well we can all rejoice that your are not GM of the Caps.

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I would take that in a heartbeat!
you'd just as soon cut him outright. yes?

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Semin is worth a hell of a lot more than those two guys. Even as a pending UFA. Even if he walks.

Should he be untouchable? Not necessarily, but the return would have to be substantial.

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Well we can all rejoice that your are not GM of the Caps.
i think he means the richards deal... doesnt he?

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01-06-2011, 11:04 PM
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i wouldnt mind langenbrunner and arnott on our team if we can get them at a reasonable price

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It seems like ovies taking shorter shifts this year this would work if semin can go back to LW.

caps:

perrault (0.716) + steckel (1.1) + chimera (1.875) + bradley (1.0) + something to make em take our 4th liners?

for

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langebrunner (2.8) + arnott (4.5) +

thats 4.691 gone from the caps then we can dump sloan and king down in hershey that makes 6.028 and then we take on 7.3 so we only gain 1.272 .


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01-06-2011, 11:18 PM
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Arnott is obviously a better fit than Lang. but the more leaders they can get the better.

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At this point, I don't really care who they get, I doubt it will make much of a difference. My feeling is, it will be 95% about the players who are already here, and the system, and how well they can execute the system. This is still a team that is trying to settle on an identity -- adding new pieces might just make things more confusing than help.

Regarding Semin, I can understand letting him go, but in that case I think the Caps should maximize the return, which might mean getting him on a (hopefully) slightly below market value contract, and then waiting for the best time to trade him.

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its also true at this point the caps best deadline acquisition would be the return of the old 8 and the old 19.

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you'd just as soon cut him outright. yes?
Nah, I'd atleast get Corey Locke and Cody Hodgson for him, especially since Semin is on fire right now. lol

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01-07-2011, 07:21 AM
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Well we can all rejoice that your are not GM of the Caps.
I see you do the same thing, just post on the board with your wisdom.

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01-07-2011, 07:52 AM
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How much of a leader is Langenbrunner though, really? Or Arnott for that matter? Both are experienced, veteran enough. But wasn't Arnott underwhelming as a captain? Isn't Langenbrunner picking up a rather poor reputation in NJ these past few seasons (I don't want to say "locker room cancer" because that would be overblowing it of course)?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "leader." I don't think people should say "these guys are/were captains" and point to that as them being great leaders, because as far as I can tell they've been underwhelming captains. But of course even a quiet veteran presence can have a ton of value, as long as it's attached to the right player.

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Semin is worth a hell of a lot more than those two guys. Even as a pending UFA. Even if he walks.

Should he be untouchable? Not necessarily, but the return would have to be substantial.
I think people are down on Semin b/c he is in a slump right now. As soon as he turns it on (being a streaky scorer) everyone will say "resign him NOW McPhee!"

I would not trade him for multiple reasons. I do think he is a good playoff performer overall and he is part of the core of the team at this point and this group deserves another chance to see what they can do in the playoffs.

And just say NO to Brad Richards. He will cost too much, disturb the chemistry of the team and also...I think he is an overrated player. But thats just me.

I see more value in Arnott as he'd come a heck of alot cheaper.

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01-07-2011, 08:36 AM
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Semins slump is a good thing for us, it will keep his price down. I was worried when he was leading the league in goals that he would want gaborik type money. longer his stats are down the more we can save if we do resign him

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How much of a leader is Langenbrunner though, really? Or Arnott for that matter? Both are experienced, veteran enough. But wasn't Arnott underwhelming as a captain? Isn't Langenbrunner picking up a rather poor reputation in NJ these past few seasons (I don't want to say "locker room cancer" because that would be overblowing it of course)?.
Langenbrunner was the captain of the USA Olympic team and seemed to be very effective. The collapse of the Devils is not on Langenbrunner, but it sure may have effected his attitude.

As a fan its really hard to tell the inside stuff. It was pretty clear that Fedorov was pretty unhappy and disinterested his last season in Columbus. The Fedorov the Caps had, however, was just what the Capitals needed and have missed him terribly since he has gone.

I see what they say in NJ about Langenbrunner, but I also saw him in Vancouver with a young team USA and the results there.

Its a moot point, I guess because it appears Langenrbrunner is headed to Dallas

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Langenbrunner was the captain of the USA Olympic team and seemed to be very effective. The collapse of the Devils is not on Langenbrunner, but it sure may have effected his attitude.

As a fan its really hard to tell the inside stuff. It was pretty clear that Fedorov was pretty unhappy and disinterested his last season in Columbus. The Fedorov the Caps had, however, was just what the Capitals needed and have missed him terribly since he has gone.

I see what they say in NJ about Langenbrunner, but I also saw him in Vancouver with a young team USA and the results there.

Its a moot point, I guess because it appears Langenrbrunner is headed to Dallas
The issues with Langenbrunner in NJ extend back to last season though, IINM. I guess it has been a clash with Lemaire more than anything though. Maybe my point was only that it's not a slam dunk, and shouldn't be looked at as such.

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Semins slump is a good thing for us, it will keep his price down. I was worried when he was leading the league in goals that he would want gaborik type money. longer his stats are down the more we can save if we do resign him
I totally agree, Semin slumping through March would be great for this team's cap future. It's not like the Caps are going to miss the playoffs even with Semin playing poorly, and no one cares about (or wants?) the President's trophy.

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Stars acquire Langenbruner for a conditional 3rd rounder

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Stars acquire Langenbruner for a conditional 3rd rounder
That's a great deal for them.

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Sounds like it'll get bumped to a 2nd rounder if Dallas either wins one playoff round or if he re-signs before July 1.

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So would this be the litmus test for determining what the Devils might accept for Arnott.

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01-07-2011, 10:27 AM
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I totally agree, Semin slumping through March would be great for this team's cap future. It's not like the Caps are going to miss the playoffs even with Semin playing poorly, and no one cares about (or wants?) the President's trophy.
Only and as long as he shakes it before the playoffs.

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I think Semin will either be signed by the end of the month or he is gone before the playoffs.

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Just for comparison's sake, Semin has as many goals (18) as Langenbrunner and Arnott have combined assists.

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