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10-20-2011, 04:26 PM
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I see you put him as winger, but he actually is center. However one thing he needs to improve, playing against men, is faceoffs. Probably works well as winger too.
It's pretty likely that we'll have quite a few centers in our WJC team. And there's only four spots available. At least Mi. Granlund, Barkov, Salomäki, Aaltonen, Mustonen and Ruuttu are natural centers. Probably Ma. Granlund as well.

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10-20-2011, 04:30 PM
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It's pretty likely that we'll have quite a few centers in our WJC team. And there's only four spots available. At least Mi. Granlund, Barkov, Salomäki, Aaltonen, Mustonen and Ruuttu are natural centers. Probably Ma. Granlund as well.
Out of these guys only Mi. Granlund and Barkov are sure to be centers, for rest of the guys there's alot of possibilities. Salomäki, Aaltonen, Ruuttu and Ma. Granlund are all curently playing as wingers, and if Mustonen gets solid minutes as a 3rd line center it would probably be wise to use him as one.

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10-20-2011, 04:38 PM
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Out of these guys only Mi. Granlund and Barkov are sure to be centers, for rest of the guys there's alot of possibilities. Salomäki, Aaltonen, Ruuttu and Ma. Granlund are all curently playing as wingers, and if Mustonen gets solid minutes as a 3rd line center it would probably be wise to use him as one.
I agree. I was just about to add that Salomäki and Mustonen could easily switch places. But you beat me to it.

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10-20-2011, 04:46 PM
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He's replacing Oscar Lindberg who is NOT injured. Lindberg played great in last years JWC for Sweden, so Skellefteå coaches had great hopes for Lindberg and put him to center the 1st line with two new guys from AHL (Möller/Holloway) who were supposed to be the leading line. The line didnt produce as expected so after 12 games, Lindberg was benched tonight. Coach Forsberg said he wanted to give Mustonen a chance since he's been really good on the practices, and coach also said after the game that Mustonens way of playing is "icehockey pornography" ...and that he will keep this line the next game(s).
Sounds good, "icehockey pornography" that has to be one of the best things to be said of any hockey player Have to hope he keeps playing well !

edit: if I understood correctly with my bad swedish skills the coach described mustonen's skating ability as hockey pornography, correct?


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10-20-2011, 05:28 PM
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Sounds good, "icehockey pornography" that has to be one of the best things to be said of any hockey player Have to hope he keeps playing well !

edit: if I understood correctly with my bad swedish skills the coach described mustonen's skating ability as hockey pornography, correct?
Exactly. Actually "icehockey pornography" has become a pretty common expression in swedish hockey, don't know why though

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10-20-2011, 05:41 PM
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My centers for the tournament is: Mi. Granlund, Salomäki, Barkov and Ruuttu. Ma. Granlund and Aaltonen is too small to play centers IMO, maybe next year? Mustonen maybe could play center instead of Salomäki, who's been playing wing in Kärpät. I think Barkov will make the team but we don't know what the coaches thoughts are, after all he's only 16 years old and will be available for three WJCs after this year.

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10-20-2011, 06:26 PM
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How about switching Mustonen for Ruuttu on wing, like he's been playing so far this season?

Ma. Granlund - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Skill, skill, and even more skill. The brothers can pass and Armia can shoot. Who's going to defend? Mi. Granlund and hopefully Armia too if he feels like it.

Teräväinen - Salomäki - Donskoi
Same like last year except junttila is replaced by another small torpedo named Teräväinen

Ruuttu - Mustonen - Pulkkinen
Ruuttu and Mustonen are both super fast, all guys can shoot, Pulkkinen knows how to be a playmaker too.

Partanen - Barkov - Åsten
Alot of size, grit, defensive play and thanks to Barkov, some skill aswell.

Aaltonen - Can replace Teräväinen if needed, also speedy, skilled and smart.



If Barkov plays well he can get bumped higher, maybe switch with Mustonen

3 scoring lines + 1 checking line that can score. The line that brings out the best game face gets the most minutes.

Sounds pretty good eh?

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10-21-2011, 10:58 AM
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Despite all the speculation going on in here (and not all of it bad, IMO), I'd be pretty surprised if our two top lines weren't

Donskoi - Mi.Granlund - Pulkkinen

and

Ma.Granlund - Salomäki - Armia,

with possibly Donskoi and younger Granlund switched around.


My rationale? Helminen is a rookie coach who's probably going to lean heavily on what's been on the table before.

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10-21-2011, 02:42 PM
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P.NameYearH.lbs.L/RMestisGPIGAAPctMin\Jr.GPIGAAPctMin
GKVille Kolppanen-926.00187LLeKi21.000.969120\Snezhnye Barsy (MHL)21.000.968120
GKJonathan Iilahti-926.01174LSport31.000.965180\Sport54.020.873298
GKSami Rajaniemi-926.00163LJYP Ak.52.200.938300\-----
GKSamu Perhonen-936.05187LJYP Ak.53.170.904303\-----
GKSami Aittokallio-926.01172LLeKi25.700.807116\Ilves32.600.914185
GKChristopher Gibson-926.01187L-----\Chicoutimi (QMJHL)93.110.897483

Just thinking about the goalie situation, it seems to be wide open at this point.

- Kolppanen played more than Perhonen at the 4 nations tournament in Moscow and started well in Mestis. Then for some odd reason he moved to Russia to play in MHL, he has now played two games there with good stats. Sadly it seems that he has been more of a back-up to Pavel Poluektov so far.

- Iilahti has good stats from Mestis, but won’t get many games behind Puurula. His Jr.A stats are weak.

- Sami Rajaniemi has better stats than his teammate Perhonen, but hasn’t played in the national team before, so it would be a small surprise if he gets his chance now.

- Perhonen has been decent in Mestis, but let in 7 goals against Russia in 2 periods at the 4 nations tournament in Moscow.

- Aittokallio has only played 2 games in Mestis with poor stats, his Jr.A stats are nothing special either. He was the back-up last year, so it would be quite a collapse for him to be left out of the team this year. Hopefully he starts performing better.

- Although Gibson’s team is playing a bit better than last year, his stats have not been comparable to last year.

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10-22-2011, 02:47 AM
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How about pairing up Mi. Granlund and Salomäki? Salomäki is a lot more skilled than I had previously thought and Granlund benefits on having a "workhorse" on his line. They could probably be really good on the forecheck too.

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10-22-2011, 04:28 AM
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How about pairing up Mi. Granlund and Salomäki? Salomäki is a lot more skilled than I had previously thought and Granlund benefits on having a "workhorse" on his line. They could probably be really good on the forecheck too.
Salomäki already has high confidence and he doesen't need Granlund to boost it. I don't like keeping all hot guys in 1 line just spread them.

Donskoi-Mi. Granlund-Pulkkinen

I thought that we should seperate Donskoi but he needs to get his confidence boosted

Ma. Granlund - Salomäki - Armia

They have good chemistry with eachother

Mustonen - Barkov - Teräväinen

Mustonen and Barkov both are great two-way players. All are very skilled players. Teräväinen and Barkov has great chemistry. Mustonen hustles around alot fighting int he boards and all and plays very intensive game and has good work ethic.

Åsten - Ruuttu/Partanen - Partanen/Ruuttu

Our beastly fourth line with serious work ethic grit and size. Skill aswell.

We can have 3 scoring lines and 1 energyline with scoring ability with keeping donskoi with pulu and mikke.

Määttä-Pokka
Riikola-Hakanpää
Valkonen-Ristolainen

Gibson
Aittokallio


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Salomäki already has high confidence and he doesen't need Granlund to boost it. I don't like keeping all hot guys in 1 line just spread them.

Donskoi-Mi. Granlund-Pulkkinen

I thought that we should seperate Donskoi but he needs to get his confidence boosted

Ma. Granlund - Salomäki - Armia

They have good chemistry with eachother

Mustonen - Barkov - Teräväinen

Mustonen and Barkov both are great two-way players. All are very skilled players. Teräväinen and Barkov has great chemistry. Mustonen hustles around alot fighting int he boards and all and plays very intensive game and has good work ethic.

Åsten - Ruuttu/Partanen - Partanen/Ruuttu

Our beastly fourth line with serious work ethic grit and size. Skill aswell.

We can have 3 scoring lines and 1 energyline with scoring ability with keeping donskoi with pulu and mikke.

Määttä-Pokka
Riikola-Hakanpää
Valkonen-Ristolainen

Gibson
Aittokallio
I'd be happy with those lines. Maybe the defensive pairs could be shuffled a bit, but in overall that looks good.

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10-24-2011, 04:41 PM
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Teräväinen - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Donskoi - Barkov - Pulkkinen
Ma. Granlund - Mustonen - Salomäki
H. Ikonen - Ruuttu - Åsten
Aaltonen

Määttä - Riikola
Pokka - Ristolainen
Valkonen - Hakanpää
X

Gibson
Perhonen


- Aaltonen was recalled from Jokipojat and likely gets to play 5-10mins/game in a grinding role. What a shame... If he plays bigger minutes at Blues and can put up points, he moves up in the hierarchy.

- At the moment I prefer Ikonen over Partanen. Ikonen uses his body well, goes to the net and has decent hands. And most of all, he gets to play against men in a tough league. The main problem with Ikonen is his skating, otherwise he could be in the top9.

- Åsten has performed well as a 4th liner in FEL. At the moment I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be in the line up.

- Teräväinen showed glimpses of his potential against Ässät. He played in the first line with Filppula and Eaves, some highlights here. Mi. Granlund has improved his two way game so much this year that Teräväinen-Granlund-Armia wouldn't be a liability defensively. That line could use some sandpaper, although Armia can be pretty physical.

- In defense five guys should be a lock. Then there are whole bunch of guys with Mestis/FEL experience competing for the last spots. Chris Gibson would be my starting goalie. He is familiar with the small rink and the talent is there.


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[B]Teräväinen - Mi. Granlund - Armia
Donskoi - Barkov - Pulkkinen
Ma. Granlund - Mustonen - Salomäki
H. Ikonen - Ruuttu - Åsten
Aaltonen.
I'm pretty sure that Teräväinen and Ikonen will not be on the team.

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10-25-2011, 02:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure that Teräväinen and Ikonen will not be on the team.
Teräväinen has been really good with Jokerit and has had more icetime than Ruuttu for example, I don't see why he shoulnd't be on the team. About Ikonen I don't know but atleast he's been playing with Kalpa mens team so he'll atleast get a look.

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- Teräväinen showed glimpses of his potential against Ässät. He played in the first line with Filppula and Eaves, some highlights here.
Wow that pass at 4:44. How can Eaves miss it?

It looks like TT wont make the team if he doesn't keep his roster spot with Jokerit. Based on his performance he should keep it but it doesn't always go the way you want. Hopefully he gets good icetime tonight and I can check him out.

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Henri Auvinen will make his SM-liiga debut tonight against Jokerit. Playing in the 2nd pair with Olli Malmivaara.

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It looks like TT wont make the team if he doesn't keep his roster spot with Jokerit. Based on his performance he should keep it but it doesn't always go the way you want. Hopefully he gets good icetime tonight and I can check him out.
Janne Lahti is still injured and Ben Eaves will be out for weeks. Basically that means more icetime for guys like Teräväinen, Hännikäinen and Ruuttu. Tonight TT will play in the third line with Hahl & Rita.

Skellefteås tonight's game will be on VeikkausTV. Good chance to see how Mustonen is doing.

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Wow that pass at 4:44. How can Eaves miss it?

It looks like TT wont make the team if he doesn't keep his roster spot with Jokerit. Based on his performance he should keep it but it doesn't always go the way you want. Hopefully he gets good icetime tonight and I can check him out.
Not necessarily, Jokerit have good depth, and once some of the injured get back he probably won't stay up (my prediction). That doesn't mean he shouldn't get picked for the NT, in most teams he would be a permanent part of the roster (based on his performances thus far)

Interesting to see how Auvinen plays tonight, I'm expecting some in depth analysis from JYP fans

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Teräväinen just scored on powerplay. Barkov also scored...

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Teräväinen just scored on powerplay. Barkov also scored...
And Otto Räty with assist on Barkov's goal (Räty's SM-Liiga debut). Hakanpää an assist fot he second game in a row (his two first). Ullberg starter for Saipa, and Aittokallio in net after Wiikman let in two goals in 4 minutes.

More than two periods left of all the games, can we hope for some more points from the youngsters?

This looks promising!

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Mustonen just got an assist. I have to say, he looks pretty good out there. Good skater, battles hard and can make plays in small space.

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Mustonen just got an assist. I have to say, he looks pretty good out there. Good skater, battles hard and can make plays in small space.
Agree 100%

After the 1st period I've made some first impressions: He's got impressive agility and is fast, works hard and forechecks aggressively. From what I've seen I think we'd be crazy not to include him on the team. Don't know why he wasn't drafted, or maybe he's just improved immensely from last year.

EDIT: Couple of beautiful passes from Mustonen to a guy in full speed. Seems to play really well on the rush, anticipates plays very well and sees the ice well.


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Pretty strange Mustonen has not putting up more points in J20-SuperElit, "only" 3 assists in 6 games. He seems to play great with good players in Elitserien.
Saw that he's really good at faceoffs, 62% on 21 faceoffs (Elitserien).

Fagerudd is doing good in Luleå's J20 SuperElit, 3+7 in 10 games, leading his team in points. I'm not sure whether we need another offensive D-man on the team..?

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