Nothing wrong with pulling Poulin up for a short while to back up Lawson. From what I've read, he's played exceptionally well with Bridgeport this season. With DP's injury last night, I don't see a problem doing this as long as it's not an extended call-up.
Koskinen is anything but NHL ready and the idea of bringing him up would be absurd. I saw him a few times in Hershey last season and we absolutely dismantled him. If I remember correctly he was the victim of one of our three or four 9-0 wins during the regular season.
Nothing wrong with pulling Poulin up for a short while to back up Lawson. From what I've read, he's played exceptionally well with Bridgeport this season. With DP's injury last night, I don't see a problem doing this as long as it's not an extended call-up.
Koskinen is anything but NHL ready and the idea of bringing him up would be absurd. I saw him a few times in Hershey last season and we absolutely dismantled him. If I remember correctly he was the victim of one of our three or four 9-0 wins during the regular season.
From what ive seen of him...he seems a bit raw.
Somewhat reminds me of Sean Burke coming up with the Devils in 88....raw..big guy.
Thats what i think his upside is ...Burke..downside...our GM Garth Snow.
What kind of package deal would we need to send to Vancouver to bring back Cory Schneider? I think he's the answer to alot of problems.
Wouldn't move an significant assets for a goalie at this point unless its a veteran. Poulin is an ace in the hole and has been dominant at the AHL level at 20. I don't like seeing him up quite yet but Schnieder is a premier prospect and for a position that you can find solid stopgaps every single year and with Poulin developing into a stud there is no need for him longterm.
I was under the impression that 'adduction' is moving any body part toward the center of your body. So I'm not sure what an adductor muscle really is. Oh well, at least it isn't his knee/hip/head. Might as well injure a fresh area of the body.
I was under the impression that 'adduction' is moving any body part toward the center of your body. So I'm not sure what an adductor muscle really is. Oh well, at least it isn't his knee/hip/head. Might as well injure a fresh area of the body.
That's right. You use adductor muscles to draw your legs to the midline of your body. Abducter muscles bring your legs outward.
I'm with you 100% on the reward but I WISH we were the type of team to put limits on such "rewards" instead putting their development ahead and being ardent in our refusal to meddle with it.
Nilsson and Koskinen should have been kept away from the NHL. Poulin is closest to ready, but still, I would have rather signed John Vanbiesbrouck than short change any goalie's development, even for a one-two week stint.
But we're the Islanders, so enjoy your time up, Kevin.
Brodeur, Luongo, and Roy were both full-time NHLers at 21. Granted, Poulin's not as good as any of those three (this is so someone doesn't twist my words to make it seem like I was saying that). The point is that when a guy's ready, he's ready.
(Actually, there was nothing in Brodeur's stat line to suggest be could make the jump when he did. But he did. So you never know. Player-by-player basis.)
I don't disagree with you about the development length and psyche - but IN THIS CASE, I think it's just a "nice reward" for his stellar play AND the fact that DiPietro's injured. I expect him to not play at all, I am hopeful he gets ONE start as a reward, before he's sent back to the AHL. Nothing more.
I'd be fuming if he were expected to be a starter for an extended period - I doubt that's the case here.
Hey. I didn't want Roloson traded - I was hoping they'd extend him another year because I don't see any goalie who's close to Roloson on the depth chart, regardless of age/injuries/etc. The last thing I'm advocating is making Poulin a starter. But I'm not at all worried about him getting a look at the NHL and seeing some shots from the players he'll one day be expected to face.
But than what would be the point of bringing him up? Let him keep racking up the games in the A....If hes only here do be a backup then that might hurt him by sitting an extended period.....I do see what you mean that he deserves it but only if it were a 1 game thing where Koskinen was going to start anyways....
Just a personal note, I pulled the adductor muscle in February 2010 playing basketball sliding on a wet spot on the floor, it felt a lot worse the next morning. It is a nagging injury that you could feel for a few months.
There is a machine at most gyms called an adduction machine which you will find mostly women on, where you have those 2 pads and you push them apart with your thighs.... very sensitive muscle.
I think Poulin will be here for a few weeks.
I'm with you on this. Groin issues can be nagging and just being on skates places some pressure on them. It's best to side with caution.
Most of the time you injure your groin in a situation exactly as you described (where you're not ready for the sudden over-stretching of the muscle. I would imagine that most of us can't do a split.)
DiPietro does not have the mobility in his legs that he used to have. I've noticed that he can't spread his legs as easily this season. I'm sure there's a billion jokes there, be gentle.
Potvin on XM stated one of the reasons NYI made the Roloson trade was get Poulin some time in the NHL. He also mentioned Snow believes Poulin is the real deal.
Roloson was moved for $ first. Let's not forget that. NYI found a taker, then jumped on it.
I think it deserves mention in this thread that the Isles-lineup now features 4 guys from the 2008 draft.
Not entirely sure whether this is positive or not (words like 'rushing', 'rebuild', 'kiddies' and 'cheap' also come to mind), but remarkable nonetheless, as we're only 2½ years out of the draft (and none of the Isles' 2007-picks have played in the NHL yet).
In addition to Bailey, Hamonic, Martin and now Poulin, 6th rounder Jared Spurgeon has also played 15 games for the Minnesota Wild this year.
Potvin on XM stated one of the reasons NYI made the Roloson trade was get Poulin some time in the NHL. He also mentioned Snow believes Poulin is the real deal.
Roloson was moved for $ first. Let's not forget that. NYI found a taker, then jumped on it.
Anyone who's seen Poulin play in Bridgeport knows hes more than capable of being a number one in the NHL. My only issue with this whole situation is DP. Poulin is not a backup.
With an injury making it NECESSARY to have someone called up, you reward the guy who has worked hard, earned a chance and gives you the best chance to win if he plays.
Now Poulin gets a little bit of NHL salary as a reward, gets to live the NHL life for a short time. Good for him. More importantly, he gets to practice with and face shots from NHL caliber players (a handful at least). Exposing him the the skill and pace of regular NHL'ers is great for his development, as is working daily with the top level coaches.
I think some people really think backup goalies just sit on the bench during games and do nothing else. The NHL work he will get in his short call up will be more valuable than anything he'd be getting playing a few games in the AHL.
Potvin on XM stated one of the reasons NYI made the Roloson trade was get Poulin some time in the NHL. He also mentioned Snow believes Poulin is the real deal.
Roloson was moved for $ first. Let's not forget that. NYI found a taker, then jumped on it.
Patrick Roy said Poulin is the real deal. That's good enough for me.
I think it deserves mention in this thread that the Isles-lineup now features 4 guys from the 2008 draft.
Not entirely sure whether this is positive or not (words like 'rushing', 'rebuild', 'kiddies' and 'cheap' also come to mind), but remarkable nonetheless, as we're only 2½ years out of the draft (and none of the Isles' 2007-picks have played in the NHL yet).
In addition to Bailey, Hamonic, Martin and now Poulin, 6th rounder Jared Spurgeon has also played 15 games for the Minnesota Wild this year.
add Petrov and Donovan along with long shots in Trivino (2nd rounder) and Ness (2nd Rounder) the 2008 draft really is looking great.
Bailey, Hamonic, Martin and Puolin could be legit building blocks. How is that cutie Filatov doing anyway?
With an injury making it NECESSARY to have someone called up, you reward the guy who has worked hard, earned a chance and gives you the best chance to win if he plays.
Now Poulin gets a little bit of NHL salary as a reward, gets to live the NHL life for a short time. Good for him. More importantly, he gets to practice with and face shots from NHL caliber players (a handful at least). Exposing him the the skill and pace of regular NHL'ers is great for his development, as is working daily with the top level coaches.
I think some people really think backup goalies just sit on the bench during games and do nothing else. The NHL work he will get in his short call up will be more valuable than anything he'd be getting playing a few games in the AHL.
Potvin on XM stated one of the reasons NYI made the Roloson trade was get Poulin some time in the NHL. He also mentioned Snow believes Poulin is the real deal.
Roloson was moved for $ first. Let's not forget that. NYI found a taker, then jumped on it.
I respect Potvin, one of my favorite players of all time, and a pretty decent color commentator. BUT, we all know Snow is very secretive, I doubt anyone except Snow and Wang know the real reason why Roloson was traded. I have yet to hear an explanation from Snow, he hasn't really spoken about the trade yet to the press. So how does Potvin know it's because Snow feels Poulin is ready for some NHL time. This is obviously purely conjecture on Potvin's part.
my dumb ass forgot...then im wondering what #?
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