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01-06-2011, 12:48 PM
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Hemsky would look awfully good in Boston adding that touch of flair that they lack. Too bad Boston probably thinks that scoring 1 goal a game in the playoffs is going to get them there 4th cup in the past 4 years
Hemsky is a solid playmaking winger but I would think the Bruins need goal scorers. He'll get you 20+ goals but the Bruins would likely be looking at something else considering the assets they'd have to give up to get Hemsky.

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01-06-2011, 12:58 PM
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I could see Penner end up being a Leaf he seems to fir Burkie's rebuild style and we need a big LW that cn score to Play on Kessel's line

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Would love Penner in Minnesota and we have some defensemen to offer.
I would like the Kings to kick the tires on Penner, and we have more and better defensemen to offer.

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I would like the Kings to kick the tires on Penner, and we have more and better defensemen to offer.
Lots of tires could be kicked here and I think worked out.

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01-06-2011, 01:29 PM
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http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade...p25/index.html

The Fourth Period has 3 Oilers as possible trade bait at the deadline with the following teams interested:
Hemsky: NYR & CLB; which other teams might be interested and who could we get:

Penner: COL, LA, Montreal, NAS, CAR; which other teams might be interested and what could we get:

Vandermeer: CLB, CAR, LA; which other teams might be interested and what could we get.

Penner and Hemsky we are not going to give away for nothing, especially Hemsky.
Reality is that CLB is not making the playoffs so Hemsky or Vandermeer would be for future fit rather than a run this year. I don't see CLB going after either player until the off-season. Vandermeer is a UFA so waiting until the summer makes more sense. Hemsky only has a year left and Howson may think Hemsky's value will be less after the season.

I could see NYR being interested. I know there has been recent clashes between Del Zotto and Sather regarding playing time. I don't think NYR fans would necessarily go for it but hey, that would be a great move for EDM. Hemsky + 2nd Round 2011 for Del Zotto + 2nd Round 2011 (Del Zotto is a big score). This could happen if NYR waived Prust or something like that.


As for Penner: I don't really see the fit with the LAK although maybe California would make him happy. Carolina is trying to keep payroll down to attract a buyer so I don't see this happening either.

Nashville might do the deal because they have the space but they wouldn't want to give up much from the current roster. Maybe Pekke Rinne because Lindback is playing well. They could give Dubnyk back in return but then Nashville would have to throw in a prospect.

MTL: I don't see any trades that would really make sense for either side here.

Col: Ditto.

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01-06-2011, 01:38 PM
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Beauchemin + Caputi for Penner + 3rd
God no. Take the third out for starters, Caputi isn't enough on top of Beuchemin for Penner.

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01-06-2011, 02:24 PM
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LOL, who are you kidding? The Oilers would LOVE to have Hodgson to build around but Gillis wouldn't trade him, let alone within his own division. And where would Hemsky play on the Canucks? He dosen't strike me as a prototypical 4th liner, because that's what he would be on the Nucks. He wouldn't be bumping anyone else down the line-up
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I bet you think Hodgson would jump right into the Oilers line up and be the #1 centre too He's leaning closer to bust than NHL'er.
How many RW's on the Canucks average more points per game than Hemsky. I can guarantee you that Hemsky is the highest, and would only add to those numbers playing with the Sedins.


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01-06-2011, 02:45 PM
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How about?

To PHX:

Penner
Plante

To EDM:

Ekman-Larsson (considering Gormley coming in next year)
Weller

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01-06-2011, 03:13 PM
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How about?

To PHX:

Penner
Plante

To EDM:

Ekman-Larsson (considering Gormley coming in next year)
Weller
I don't know much about Weller, but I like the rest of it...

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01-06-2011, 03:40 PM
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-Zach Stortini, RW: Good energy line player and fighter. About to be a RFA. Might be worth a late pick or middling prospect. RFA this summer.

More valuable to the Oilers than anyone else IMO. Unlikely to be moved. More likely to be waived.

-Jim Vandemeer, D: Had a nightmarish start to the season but has settled in as a solid bottom pairing d-man. Would be great added depth for a playoff team. A mid-range pick seems about right. UFA this summer.

All of his recovery was due to being paired with Whitney. Low pick at best.

-Alexandre Giroux, C: One of the best snipers in the AHL, is not happy about the Oilers treatment of him this season. Teams looking for a bargain addition for their power-play and fourth line could come calling. UFA this summer.

Likely impossible to move considering his large one way salary and generally weak AHL season (for his standards).

-Jeff Deslauriers, G: Could have been had off waivers this year, but if you're going into the playoffs with injury-prone goaltending tandem, such as Dallas, it might not hurt to have a third goalie with NHL experience in the system for the rest of the season. UFA this summer.

Possible. A low pick once again.

-Ryan Jones, LW: Oilers seem to be very fond of him, the only reason I have him here is he's an impending UFA.

Not a chance. Every one of his goals has been scored evens with bottom 6 ice time.

-Andrew Cogliano, C: Getting a shot on the Oilers top line right now, but he's an impending RFA and the Oilers have to start making space for the likes of Omark, Reddox and O'Marra, as well as incoming players like Curtis Hamilton and Anton Lander.

Has lost his mojo, and I think the Oilers are ready to move him. The fanbase/Oilogosphere is ready, I think.

-Gilbert Brule, C: Looked great moved back to center last night and the Oil may try to move him when he has more value.

Not much value to anyone unless he can reach the bottom end of his contract value (1.85M)

-J.F. Jacques, LW: Big and hits like a freight train but has no offence to speak of. He's an impending RFA and the Oilers may decide to cut ties with him now.

As an Oilers fan I would be willing to take a dirty sock in exchange for JFJacque. He puts the plug in plugger.

-Tom Gilbert, D: Has regressed badly in the last season or two and has a high salary ($4), but nothing is impossible, seeing as Glen Sather moved Ales Kotalik last year.

He's a tough case, as he can be so inconsistent. Sometimes he lookes like a 4M guy, sometimes a 1M guy. Lately it's been more 2.5M. If the deal is right I think the Oilers probably make it.

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01-06-2011, 03:51 PM
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-Zach Stortini, RW: Good energy line player and fighter. About to be a RFA. Might be worth a late pick or middling prospect. RFA this summer.

More valuable to the Oilers than anyone else IMO. Unlikely to be moved. More likely to be waived.

-Jim Vandemeer, D: Had a nightmarish start to the season but has settled in as a solid bottom pairing d-man. Would be great added depth for a playoff team. A mid-range pick seems about right. UFA this summer.

All of his recovery was due to being paired with Whitney. Low pick at best.

-Alexandre Giroux, C: One of the best snipers in the AHL, is not happy about the Oilers treatment of him this season. Teams looking for a bargain addition for their power-play and fourth line could come calling. UFA this summer.

Likely impossible to move considering his large one way salary and generally weak AHL season (for his standards).

-Jeff Deslauriers, G: Could have been had off waivers this year, but if you're going into the playoffs with injury-prone goaltending tandem, such as Dallas, it might not hurt to have a third goalie with NHL experience in the system for the rest of the season. UFA this summer.

Possible. A low pick once again.

-Ryan Jones, LW: Oilers seem to be very fond of him, the only reason I have him here is he's an impending UFA.

Not a chance. Every one of his goals has been scored evens with bottom 6 ice time.

-Andrew Cogliano, C: Getting a shot on the Oilers top line right now, but he's an impending RFA and the Oilers have to start making space for the likes of Omark, Reddox and O'Marra, as well as incoming players like Curtis Hamilton and Anton Lander.

Has lost his mojo, and I think the Oilers are ready to move him. The fanbase/Oilogosphere is ready, I think.

-Gilbert Brule, C: Looked great moved back to center last night and the Oil may try to move him when he has more value.

Not much value to anyone unless he can reach the bottom end of his contract value (1.85M)

-J.F. Jacques, LW: Big and hits like a freight train but has no offence to speak of. He's an impending RFA and the Oilers may decide to cut ties with him now.

As an Oilers fan I would be willing to take a dirty sock in exchange for JFJacque. He puts the plug in plugger.

-Tom Gilbert, D: Has regressed badly in the last season or two and has a high salary ($4), but nothing is impossible, seeing as Glen Sather moved Ales Kotalik last year.

He's a tough case, as he can be so inconsistent. Sometimes he lookes like a 4M guy, sometimes a 1M guy. Lately it's been more 2.5M. If the deal is right I think the Oilers probably make it.
Great post. I just want to say, that the "right deal" for Gilbert is likely anything that takes a legitimate NHL'er on a lower contract. Unless its a 35 year old.

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01-06-2011, 04:32 PM
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He actually didn't miss the entire year and ended up playing more games than Hemsky last season (though obviously different level of hockey OHL/AHL vs NHL).
back is also worse injury to take then shoulder

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01-06-2011, 04:53 PM
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Are you f***ng kidding me? Hemsky would be the only PPG RW on the Canucks. He is easily better then any RW the Canucks have.
Just because you and other Oiler fan's over rate your beloved Hemsky, dosen't mean he's better than the Canuck's options at RW. First off when has he ever scored a PPG over a full season? He almost did it a few seasons ago but hes still not PPG, and the guy can't stay healthy over a full season. If you want to look at small sample sizes over the period his body can hold up then good for you, but this guy is as soft as butter and easier to play against than any of the Canuck's RW options.
Also Hodgson has far more potential then any of the Oilers center prospects in their system, and if Hodgson was in the Oilers system, he probaly would have been their number 1 center for the past 2 years. Fact is he's played very good this year and is showing what kind of player he could be down the road. Listening to Oiler fan's around here, why would you guys need to move any peices? I thought you guys were going to win a cup in 3 years, just like you were 3 years ago when Ganger and Schremp were going to be HHOFers?

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Just because you and other Oiler fan's over rate your beloved Hemsky, dosen't mean he's better than the Canuck's options at RW. First off when has he ever scored a PPG over a full season? He almost did it a few seasons ago but hes still not PPG, and the guy can't stay healthy over a full season. If you want to look at small sample sizes over the period his body can hold up then good for you, but this guy is as soft as butter and easier to play against than any of the Canuck's RW options.
Really? I would say that he wouldn't play top line, Burrows fits in well there. But come on, Hemsky would easily fit in the Canucks top 6. He still scores at a ppg pace, regardless of if he moves 5-10 games a year. Hemsky isn't soft, he plays hard and physical, and his most serious injuries were from cheap shots (Handzus running him from behind, Tootoo's shot, etc). And if you honestly think that Hemsky is easy to play against, you just don't understand hockey.

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Hemsky to CBJ is a move I definitely wouldn't rule out at the moment.

The Oilers have lots of interest in Ryan Johansen and I honestly believe that Howson would deal him if he felt that the Blue Jackets were a playoff team.

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Really? I would say that he wouldn't play top line, Burrows fits in well there. But come on, Hemsky would easily fit in the Canucks top 6. He still scores at a ppg pace, regardless of if he moves 5-10 games a year. Hemsky isn't soft, he plays hard and physical, and his most serious injuries were from cheap shots (Handzus running him from behind, Tootoo's shot, etc). And if you honestly think that Hemsky is easy to play against, you just don't understand hockey.
Hemsky does NOT play physical. Ask Flames fan's or Regehr what happens to Hemsky when you play the guy tough.

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I really want the Sabres to try to make a move for Brule. I think this could be the right situation for him to flourish.

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Hemsky to CBJ is a move I definitely wouldn't rule out at the moment.

The Oilers have lots of interest in Ryan Johansen and I honestly believe that Howson would deal him if he felt that the Blue Jackets were a playoff team.
Maybe for Hemsky++. Johansen is a keeper.

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Hemsky does NOT play physical. Ask Flames fan's or Regehr what happens to Hemsky when you play the guy tough.
Are you dumb? Of course a monster defensive d-man like Regehr can push Hemsky around. But guess what, Hesmky has embarrassed Regehr more times than I can count with his dangles.

And Hemsky does play physical, he never shies away from a hit and throws a number of hits himself. Him not chickening out and actually taking a hit is why he has missed time in almost all of his injuires.

But yes, "soft as butter" players do this.


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i wouldnt mind if penner got on the plane with the islanders after tonights game. the question is, what islanders player(s) get left in edmonton?

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i wish vancouver didnt have a team then the "fans" wouldnt have to be such trolls, if oilers are mentioned it automatically has to start flaming, a player cant be injury prone he also has to be soft and a loser.


i guess when the nucks win the cup for the third year in a row...oh wait same playoff series victories as the oilers since the lockout, based on smugness you would think the team had any history...well any besides being a playoff choker

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i wish vancouver didnt have a team then the "fans" wouldnt have to be such trolls, if oilers are mentioned it automatically has to start flaming ( edited )
i guess when the nucks win the cup for the third year in a row...oh wait same playoff series victories as the oilers since the lockout, based on smugness you would think the team had any history...well any besides being a playoff choker
so youre *****ing and moaning about people doing the exact same thing youre doing?

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Just because you and other Oiler fan's over rate your beloved Hemsky, dosen't mean he's better than the Canuck's options at RW. First off when has he ever scored a PPG over a full season? He almost did it a few seasons ago but hes still not PPG, and the guy can't stay healthy over a full season. If you want to look at small sample sizes over the period his body can hold up then good for you, but this guy is as soft as butter and easier to play against than any of the Canuck's RW options.
Also Hodgson has far more potential then any of the Oilers center prospects in their system, and if Hodgson was in the Oilers system, he probaly would have been their number 1 center for the past 2 years. Fact is he's played very good this year and is showing what kind of player he could be down the road. Listening to Oiler fan's around here, why would you guys need to move any peices? I thought you guys were going to win a cup in 3 years, just like you were 3 years ago when Ganger and Schremp were going to be HHOFers?

When did anyone ever say that?

Hemsky may not fit on the first line on the Canucks, given the chemistry of Sedin-Sedin-Burrows, but "almost-PPG" is a hell of a lot better than "not even close" Samuelsson, "lol" Hansen and "even smaller sample size" Tambellini. Some of these guys aren't exactly gritty either.

Honestly, I'm not even going to try too hard to refute your point, cause it's blatant enough that Hemsky would be a welcome addition to almost any top-six. Fourth liner? You're purposefully trying to incite a furor with inflammatory comments, so I doubt they were meant seriously. At least, I hope not.

The Oilers' center prospect depth is not that deep, Hodgson is the biggest fish in that small bowl, sure. Although, I'm not sure how Hodgson would have been the #1 center for the Oilers as you assert- he's been injured for most of the past two seasons.

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I'll take Hodgson at a 1C if he can produce at least 130 pts by age 21.

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Mmmake that 160 pts.

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