i noticed foster was scratched form the oilers tonight. i think he'd be a good replacement. i don't know how come he is not fitting in with oilers. i thought he had a good career going before this year.
Ugh just heard this horrible news. I loved Gorges.
Considering Hamrlik missed tonight's game and Spacek left the game early this could turn into a nightmare pretty quickly.
I definitely support a wait-and-see attitude. No time to panic. Let the kids plays. I'd love to see Nash and Carle get some minutes over Festerling.
I like the way Subban and Weber are playing, they will get a ton of ice time and they will get the opportunity to improve their overall game, I think we have a nice mix of puckmoving (Wis PK Webs) and stay at home D (Hamrlik Gill).. I dont think we will have a hard time to make the playoffs, Im more worried about the post season, thats where Gorges will be missed the most and where our lack of experience on D will hurt..
Spending an arm and a leg to get Regehr which basically makes us a worse team than when we started the season, doesn't make sense.
Our D at the start of the year
Spending an arm and a leg to get Regehr nets us
Regehr minus Markov & Gorges
Not good asset management imo.
When you can sit back, don't waste your assets, spend them in the off season to get Regehr and next season have
Markov, Gorges and Regehr.
That sounds alot more succesful to me.
Same thing is true of Kaberle.
spending now is the worst thing this team could do.
I love you recite your opinion as *fact* . Adding a Regehr to this team at any point is a bonus, and you don't have a clue what can happen with injuries next year, and neither do I. If you can fill the gaps, you do it. If you can make your team better at any point, you do it.
I have to say I was really impressed how well the defense came together in last night's game against the Pens. Subban, Weber, Wisniewski, Gill, Spacek all played well and made simple plays 1 pass, then up the boards, then out of the zone. They took over the second about 60/40 in the 3rd, then all us in overtime.
Picard looked like he was struggling, maybe it was because of lack of game time he has seen in the last 2 weeks. I don't know.
My point is, with Gorges officially gone, thinking he was coming back made it pointless for us to try and pick up an 8th dman, now we have a full 6. We would have to call someone up from Hamilton. I think we should possibly look at Valabik on re-entry.
The guy is 6'7 255pounds. Unlike Gill with size who is just a shutdown, Valabik players a meaner game than Gill. He hits, he fights, and he has decent skating as well. I would kind of like to have him in the lineup than Picard at the moment. The whole thing I like about it is, he is an RFA at season's end, he is only 24, and he is only half the cost coming off of re-entry.
Like someone said in the Valabik re-entry waivers post over in the trade forum. What better coach, to coach him, even though it is Martin, he did kind of help Chara get where he is today with his defensive game and such. I agree somewhat with that statement. Chara wasn't who he was now when he was 24 either, so to have Valabik come in who has Chara-ristics, it could be a win win, and he could possibly develope into an great 2 way defender, like Chara. Imagine he thrived in our system and come playoffs he was a beast. If that was the case we could focus on offense and try to save at the deadline, by not giving up too many pieces.
We really don't have anything to lose, its only 1 year and half the cost, I think 360K. If it don't work out let him walk at season's end.
PG is playing it pretty cool at this point...tough luck for the Habs with injuries again this year, but it does give an opportunity to the young guys to step it up......trade deadline is 7 weeks away, not that PG will wait until then, but he seems to think he may not have to add another dman.....the month of January will tell us one way or another...
If you can't see how Gorges is too weak physically and too limited in his abilities to play against the other team's top players, than I have nothing more to tell you. Playing 23 minutes a game at the start of the season killed him. He's a 17 minutes d-man. Nothing more, nothing less. On some nights he MIGHT get barely 20 minutes, but not an average of 23 minutes for extended periods of time.
I may be the only one to agree with you. Many times Josh Gorges ends up on the seat of his pants. A lot of times it's happening in the goal crease. That's always bothered me about him. He gets pushed towards the goalie.
Don't get me wrong - he is a warrior and evidently a good leader but I'm anxious to see what Weber can do with this opportunity. I was encouraged by Weber when he knocked Byfuglien off of the puck pretty easily. He showed strength and is more of a puck moving d-man.
The penalty kill remains in the top two without Gorges. That's where it's been all year. The Habs have picked up all points available to them with Gorges out except one. We'll see how it goes but so far so good.
And with Hamrlik out too last night maybe it "forced" the team to play the kind of hockey they were playing at the beginning of the season. Keep things simple and work as a five man unit around the puck. I didn't see the game last night so I don't if that's what happened.
So a guy who's in the press box more often then not isn't worth a SAH d-men with a couple of rings to his resume?
Ok, sorry I asked.
Don't be sorry, some people around here overate their players around here.
It's an interesting trade to look at. While it helps the Habs on the defense side, trading away Weber is taking away a possible piece to the Habs future. I wonder, what is White's contract situation as of right now? If he's a rental, it would make no sense to me to trade youth that can crack the line-up next year or at least have a spot, for someone that is more likely then not out the door after the present season/post-season.
But in terms of value, yeah this is a good value. However, in my opinion, it all depends on White's contract/terms.