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01-07-2011, 02:55 PM
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Ivan Vishnevskiy
Igor Makarov
Phillipe Paradies
2nd or 3rd


Ladislav Smid



just a thought, I doubt EDM likes it.

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01-07-2011, 02:58 PM
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Ivan Vishnevskiy
Igor Makarov
Phillipe Paradies
2nd or 3rd


Ladislav Smid



just a thought, I doubt EDM likes it.
I know nothing of Makarov, a little info?

I wouldn't mind this deal to be honest, although it would likely need to be 2nd and 3rd. We do have a bit of a logjam in our bottom two defense pairs, but Smid is one of the best of the ones in said log jam. Counter offer, Vandermeer for a late pick (at the deadline).

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01-07-2011, 03:04 PM
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Makarov is hard to tell. Potential is on his side, but he still has to show more. He doesn't speak english as of now.

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I don't think we get that much for Smid to be honest.
Probably have no choice but to take that package.

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01-07-2011, 03:04 PM
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Smid has stuggled this season, but I'd give him another chance.

Vandermeer for a pick would be good, Hawks get a decent bottom pairing defenseman.

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Makarov is hard to tell. Potential is on his side, but he still has to show more. He doesn't speak english as of now.
We actually told Marincin(2010 2nd rounder) that one of things the Oilers want him to work on was his english. So I don't know that this becomes an issue as they would help him out. Problem becomes having no russians to help him out.

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01-07-2011, 03:07 PM
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that's why Vishnevskiy is included


If you think this offer is too much, take out the Pick or Paradies

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I'd pass as Smid is the best chance the Oilers have at developing a solid shut-down partner for Peckham. The main reason I'd pass, though, is the Oilers have a terrible track-record at developing Russian prospects.

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01-07-2011, 03:09 PM
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problem is, I doubt Marakov will ever make the Oilers, too much depth in front of him.

smid straight up for leddy/olsen?

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01-07-2011, 03:14 PM
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no, not getting Leddy or Olsen, also not Beach and Seabrook

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no, not getting Leddy or Olsen, also not Beach and Seabrook
But Kane and Toews are fair game

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01-07-2011, 03:24 PM
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Hawks give up too much + Smid is RFA this summer and will want a raise

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problem is, I doubt Marakov will ever make the Oilers, too much depth in front of him.

smid straight up for leddy/olsen?
Let's make it interesting. Leddy AND Olsen for Smid and MPS.

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01-07-2011, 03:27 PM
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coldsteel, no, not both.

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What about Penner for Bolland and a salary dump?

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What about Penner for Bolland and a salary dump?
Value seems about right but I'm not sure if it makes us any better overall. We'd score more and probably give up just as much more.

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no to Penner for Bolland.

Hawks need a #2/#3 Center or #5/#6 D-Men

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Let's make it interesting. Leddy AND Olsen for Smid and MPS.


Terrible

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Bubba, a 3rd line center isn't that hard to find, go with vets year to year. I'm sure we can get someone for Reasonerable price.

How about this:

Bolland, Skille and Johns

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Penner and Smid

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Let's make it interesting. Leddy AND Olsen for Smid and MPS.
I don't know that the Oilers even do this. Leddy sounds like a Chorney type player, regardless of whether or not Leddy is better than Chorney Oil don't really target that.

Even Olsen, like the kid, but not trading MPS for him.

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01-07-2011, 03:54 PM
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Bubba, a 3rd line center isn't that hard to find, go with vets year to year. I'm sure we can get someone for Reasonerable price.

How about this:

Bolland, Skille and Johns

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Penner and Smid

I know, but who would play #3 Center now?

also if we trade Bolland we would want a cheaper player than him

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Terrible
Are you kidding me? MPS is easily the most valueable piece in that package. I don't know if I'd trade him alone for both those players.

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Penner is a potential 40 goal man on the Hawks IMO.

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Bubba, a 3rd line center isn't that hard to find, go with vets year to year. I'm sure we can get someone for Reasonerable price.

How about this:

Bolland, Skille and Johns

for

Penner and Smid
Not interested in any of those players not even for just Smid.

Penner is worth too much on our team to give away for players that your team doesn't want.

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Yeah. I'd be shocked if Bowman wouldn't take the MPS, Smid trade.

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