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01-10-2011, 04:18 PM
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McDonagh will get a shot now to stick. He played well against St. Louis. Very small sample size. But the rangers can judge how does the next couple of weeks. They can always add a defensemen at the deadline if he struggles.

Our youth is the reason why we are playing well. I dont see being young on the blueline as a bad thing.

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I think the concerns over Wolski not showing up should be abated by the fact that Torts will impale his ass if he doesn't get out there and hustle like the rest of the team.

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Sather has another reclamation project......if you can call a 24 YO that. He has added skill and a player who is fast enough to play in Torts system. If Wolski becomes responsive to Torts, this could be a valuable player.

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Sounds like Nik Zherdev 2.0.
Unfortunately that's the trade this reminds me of.

Though, at this point Rozsival doesn't have much potential to miss out on.

I guess it's worth a shot that he can turn it around?

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What a trade. What. A. Trade.

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Well, this is a leap of faith by Rangers management, manifested by the play of Eminger, Sauer, and to a lesser extent Gilroy and McDonagh.
Yeah, and the more I think about it the more I like the move.

This could be very good for the organization if it works out, and worst case scenario I'm not too worried right now, but more for the playoff push with these younger guys. I have full faith in Staal and Girardi to have a great veteran presence, and I think Eminger too may step up his role. I'm really not to worried, so i'm going to call this a medium risk/high reward move.

I underestimated how big Wolski is- he's an inch shorter than Ani and 15~ points heavier. A lot of this depends on how Torts handles and shapes Wolski IMO, and if he does it good Wolski can be potent.

He DOES float, though. I don't think we'll see him with Gaborik because two floaters on one line would drive Torts nuts. Sign me up for Dubinsky-Step-Gaborik and Wolski-Ani-MZA, though. Can't wait to see him play.

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Gotta pick up a veteran D man.

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What this trade really says is how much the Rangers seem to trust the young guys on the back end.

Hopefully the increase in minutes doesn't see Eminger's or Sauer's play take a hit.

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Wolski has taken entire nights off in Phoenix this year. He has the talent to be a lot more, but right now, he's a 20g/30a type player (basically what was expected of Frolov).
He has never hit those marks in the same season.

Anyway, if he became a consistent 20G/30A guy, that would be very big for us.

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Sather said interest in Wolski predates Frolov injury. #rangers

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Sather: It happened fairly quickly.

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Seems as if this trade makes it more of a possibility that Drury is bought out this summer.
I definitely agree...I assumed Rozy would survive this year, be here for the playoff push and be dealt at the draft. Now we are going to need to make room to re-sign
Sauer
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Dubinsky
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possibly Fedotenko
possibly Gilroy

Drury's buyout creates what 3-4 million in cap space we desperately need.

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Is the conference call gona be on the website or on tv? I'd like to listen to what glen has to say.
Yeah, whats the deal on this.

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Gotta pick up a veteran D man.
Kuba. Seems like Ottawa is intent on moving him now.

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Sather has another reclamation project......if you can call a 24 YO that. He has added skill and a player who is fast enough to play in Torts system. If Wolski becomes responsive to Torts, this could be a valuable player.
Right. It appears Wolski has the tools to be a decent player in the NHL. Hopefully he comes here with 110% effort and a desire to succeed. With this being his 3rd or 4th team in only a few years I'd have to think he knows it's put up or shut up.

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After Wolski-Rozsival swap/Newbury recall, #nhl #nyrangers can add cap hit(s) of ~$4.8m today and ~$10.3m at deadline http://capgeek.com/tracker/team.php?...nch=2011-02-27

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I'm not overly excited about this. Wolski makes at least a million more than he should. Maybe the cap hit is less than Roszival's, but that's $3.8 mil allocated to a forward that should probably make about 2 mil a year. It's not like Sather just pulled another rabbit out of the hat.

Cool to get Roszival's contract out of here, cool to see that the organization thinks that highly of Gilroy, McDonagh, MDZ and perhaps Valentenko as well...but Wolski isn't an all-star by any means.

I'm also concerned how Wolski will work under Torts. It could go great, but he could end up in the doghouse pretty quickly.
He ended up in Tippet's pretty quick so he is really going to have to impress Torts to stay in here. He has the talent but he needs the mentality.

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I'm not sure this trade is as good as some of you are making it out to be.

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Time will show. Torts will tell.
We gave up a better player for younger and promicing one that cost less.
Good luck Rozy. Thanks for good years.
Perfect synopsis. Rozsival was first defensive pairing in 2006 and 2007 teams. Solid more than not while here. Caught way too much flak here. This is a deal I make though if I am Sather, and glad he pulled the trigger.

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Not quite. He is a little bit of a floater but so is Gaborik. He also goes to the goal and uses his size well in the offensive zone. Something Zherdev never did, he was more of a perimeter player.

Tippet didnt like him because he wasn't a defensive stalwart so he was moved. I think he fits in well on the Rangers with so many 2-way forwards already established here. Plus the fact that at 24, he is the same age as a lot of the team.
Here is my beef. I'm a Wolski fan, but you guys got a better (<- not by much) version of Frolov.

Wolski IS a perimeter player. He has size, but never uses it. In the whole time he was in Colorado, only two months did he ever play to his potential and damn he was good. But consider that he was on the Avs for 3-5 years the rest was filled with terribly lazy plays and has no drive to work hard.

Definitely a good trade overall for you guys', but don't be shocked when he goes to the dog house because that's where he has been his whole career.

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01-10-2011, 04:22 PM
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HOLY **** i can't even express my joy right now this is great. I love wolskis game and skillset. Sathers a magician an absolute trade genius this past like 10 days couldn't have been better in rangerland YESSSS!

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I think Sauer can handle more minutes. Don't know who's going to pick up Rozsival's scoring - maybe Gilroy? I like the move. We get younger, get rid of another big contract, get talent up front (which we sorely needed even with Frolov, get more $space for the trade deadline and next year. Remember folks, we have to sign Callahan and Dubinsky after this season.

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He has never hit those marks in the same season.

Anyway, if he became a consistent 20G/30A guy, that would be very big for us.
Yes he has. (23g/40a last year; and close w/ 22g/28a his 2nd year)

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I'm not overly excited about this. Wolski makes at least a million more than he should. Maybe the cap hit is less than Roszival's, but that's $3.8 mil allocated to a forward that should probably make about 2 mil a year.

Cool to get Roszival's contract out of here, cool to see that the organization thinks that highly of Gilroy, McDonagh, MDZ and perhaps Valentenko as well...but Wolski isn't an all-star by any means.

I'm also concerned how Wolski will work under Torts. It could go great, but he could end up in the doghouse pretty quickly.
Yeah im kinda confused, but then again ok with it, but then again meh, but then again excited?

The one thing about Rozy that i loved is that he showed up when the games counted. Granted - the boo birds would just not leave him alone (i wonder who will take he spot next now that both he, Redden and Frolov are out of the mix) - but you're losing a TON of minutes and a solid 2nd pairing defenseman for a forward that needs to find his game.

The Rangers must think very highly of Sauer and the rest of the young D. My concern is injuries and lack of depth back there. GOD FORBID one of Staal or Girardi goes down - and we all know Sauer is prone as well... you have to think a veteran is coming sooner or later. They need a decent guy back there who can play some minutes and be nasty around the net for the playoffs. Maybe Sather has an eye on someone and isnt far away from getting him. If thats the case fine.

As far as Wolski goes ... Intriguing player. With so many injuries the Rangers needed to inject some more skill back into the team. This might also suggest that they arent sure how long MZA will hold up in the NHL. Hopefully a while, but it could be a concern. With Christensen, Cally, Prospal and Frolov (and Boogaard but i dont like counting him) out they needed to supplement that with some young legs and hes got a pair. I'm not completely familiar with his game but i know hes had a down year. Capable of scoring but his reputation for a cavalier attitude will have to be rectified by Tortorella. Thats not the type of concept they are trying to build here. We'll see how he fits in I guess, Slats sure likes those comeback stories.

I'm on the fence with this deal tbh.

In the meantime - Thank you Rozy for a nice career in New York... you definitely had your ups and downs but you worked your ass off IMO and played through a lot of pain. Good luck in PHO.

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maybe make a move for a Dman now?

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Yeah, and the more I think about it the more I like the move.

This could be very good for the organization if it works out, and worst case scenario I'm not too worried right now, but more for the playoff push with these younger guys. I have full faith in Staal and Girardi to have a great veteran presence, and I think Eminger too may step up his role. I'm really not to worried, so i'm going to call this a medium risk/high reward move.

I underestimated how big Wolski is- he's an inch shorter than Ani and 15~ points heavier. A lot of this depends on how Torts handles and shapes Wolski IMO, and if he does it good Wolski can be potent.

He DOES float, though. I don't think we'll see him with Gaborik because two floaters on one line would drive Torts nuts. Sign me up for Dubinsky-Step-Gaborik and Wolski-Ani-MZA, though. Can't wait to see him play.
I agree Wolski could drive Torts nuts, but playing him with Anisimov and Gaborik, two players who are pretty good in their own zone, especially artie should make the transition easier for Wolski.

One thing no one has mentioned is there are a bunch of teams looking to add top 6 talent, and is Wolski doesn't mesh here, he could easily be packaged with someone and be traded elsewhere before the deadline. we have seen it before with Dupuis, granted dupuis is nowhere near as talented as Wolski, but this gives Torts time to try him out and now is the time with cally, EC, and Prospal out.

Wolski-Anisimov-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Stepan-Zuccarello
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
Avery-Drury-Newbury

I like the look of that for tomorrow

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