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01-13-2011, 04:18 PM
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"Untradeable"

Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev
Stepan

EDIT (forgot Stepan)


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.


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01-13-2011, 04:21 PM
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same list except stepan for grachev

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01-13-2011, 04:23 PM
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With Gabby, I just see him as replaceable basically every off season. So if a team wants to throw us a couple of really good assets for him I'd take it in a heartbeat and then just reinvest the money.

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01-13-2011, 04:24 PM
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Honestly, the only guys on our current roster I wouldn't trade for pretty much anything:

Lundqvist
Staal
Girardi
Dubinsky
Callahan

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Stepan
Del Zotto
Lundqvist
Staal
Girardi
Callahan
Dubinsky
Kreider

That's it. As long as we got fair return for anyone else, I'd be fine with it.

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No Stepan?

My list:

Anisimov
Lundqvist
Stepan
Kreider
Dubinsky
Callahan
Staal
Del Zotto

HM:

Gaborik
Girardi

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01-13-2011, 04:26 PM
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Ok, so, who do you consider untradeable on this team.

I'm not talking about NTC or NMC's, im talking about guys you value so much you wouldnt move them for anything outside of a gross overpayment (Stamkos for Stepan for example).

Personally speaking:

Cally
Dubi
Staal
Henrik
Gabby
Kreider
AA
Grachev


I know ppl have soured on Grachev and AA over the past few years, but i still absolutely love/believe in em.
For me-
Dubi
Cally
Staal
Hank
AA
Girardi
Stepan
Del Zotto
Gabby

As for Kreider and Grachev, I would rather not move them as I'm pretty high on both, but being as they aren't part of the team currently, and if they could return NHL ready talent, I'd entertain it.
And isn't Grachev only 20 y/o??? Hate to think people are giving up on a 20 year old, have we been that spoiled lately??

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01-13-2011, 04:27 PM
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same list except stepan for grachev
i forgot Stepan *facepalm*

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01-13-2011, 04:29 PM
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To me, anyone is available for overpayment except maybe Lundqvist.

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I think you have too many on your lists tbh... You'd trade probably everyone of those players if you got a better return on the same position I'm sure.

In my eyes the two least likely players to be traded by the rangers would be Lundqvist because he's one of the best goalies in the league and there's no goalie that is clearly better than him at this point and a future captain in Callahan. I can see all others being traded if you got a better part back. Obviously you would trade either of those for someone like Crosby but yeah.. that wont happen hehe

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01-13-2011, 04:33 PM
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This is a strange topic.

Would you trade Callahan for Patrick Kane? Then he's not untradeable.

Dubinsky for Henrik Sedin?

Staal for Shea Weber?

Gaborik for Malkin?

Stepan for Anze Kopitar?

Get the point? It's all relative. Nobody is untradeable.

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01-13-2011, 04:34 PM
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Inferno was pretty clear in his OP that we're NOT talking overpayments here, i.e. he understands you would move anyone in an overpayment, but that's not what we're talking about.

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01-13-2011, 04:34 PM
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This is a strange topic.

Would you trade Callahan for Patrick Kane? Then he's not untradeable.

Dubinsky for Henrik Sedin?

Staal for Shea Weber?

Gaborik for Malkin?

Stepan for Anze Kopitar?

Get the point? It's all relative. Nobody is untradeable.
yeah but how many of those are realistic?

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01-13-2011, 04:36 PM
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As much as I love Gaborik, I'd trade him for a slightly less-caliber player who's consistent and not as injury prone.

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01-13-2011, 04:37 PM
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To me, anyone is available for overpayment except maybe Lundqvist.
I'm similar... There are a number of guys that it would really hurt for me to trade without significant overpayment, but there are only a couple that are truly untradable under any circumstance.

Right now:

1. Henrik
2. Staal
3. Dubinsky


Others would hurt to move, but I would do it if it came down to it.

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01-13-2011, 04:37 PM
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Henke
Staal
Dubi
Cally
Stepan
MDZ
Kreider

If Ottawa offered Spezza, and a young needs to go the other way, I offer AA. I'd listen on an offer for Gaborik. Unlike Staal, Girardi could eventually be replaced from within, or upgraded in a deal. Dubi, Cally, MDZ and Kreider all have unique abilities not replaceable within the organization.

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01-13-2011, 04:41 PM
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Anisimov- too much talent to not have patience with
Hank- obvious
Staal and girardi- going to be long time rangers blueliners, two guys you can build a defense and culture around
Dubinsky and cali- both are the heart and soul of this team, trading one of them would be like loosing a lung or leg, just can't go on the same without them
Stepan- future of the team, a vital part of this teams future is based around this guy progressing as he has an pannin out
Del zotto- I think a lot of people forgot about him, weve passed up on similar draft choices, ad possible free agent offensive and pm defenseman, he's another vital part of this tram future success
Kreider- he's IMO our best real prospect, he's has rare speed an could really give this team something we haven't had in a while a real speedster that keeps the defense on their toes every shift all game

I honestly don't think gaborik is untradeable, that's just the way I feel, I also don't think grachev is untradeable, he's a big question mark IMHO and if another teams see in him what our fans do and offered a trade sather would deffinitslly think about it a lot more and harder than kreider, del zotto, Cali,dubi.

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The only guys who would never return equal value in a trade and therefore leave the team in a bind both short and long term:

Lundqvist
Staal
Gaborik
Callahan
Dubinsky

Everyone else can be part of an upgrade. It wouldn't be easy, but it wouldn't be something that sets the team back years.

My reasoning, Lundqvist is pretty much self explanatory, there aren't many goalies that are better than he and any trade would be a lateral move with too great a risk. We know he plays well here, there's no real chance at getting better.

The other four are the guys that you bring in elite talent to play with, and in the special case of Callahan, no move would hurt the team's identity more.

I know everyone is going to jump on me for excluding Stepan or Anisimov, and while those are great players to be sure, including them in a bigger trade to get a pipe-dream kind of guy (Stamkos, Nash, whatever) doesn't set the team back. To me, that's the ultimate criteria for the cornerstone kind of player.

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Hank
Dubi
Staal
Cally
AA
Krieder
Stepan
DZ

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Hank
Staal
Callahan

That's it.

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01-13-2011, 04:54 PM
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Henrik
Staal

On the fence with Stepan.

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Guys I wouldn't trade at all:

Lundqvist
Callahan
Dubinsky
Staal

Guys it would hurt to trade since I don't think we will be able to get anyone MUCH better for them:

Stepan
Kreider
Anisimov

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This is a strange topic.

Would you trade Callahan for Patrick Kane? Then he's not untradeable.

Dubinsky for Henrik Sedin?

Staal for Shea Weber?

Gaborik for Malkin?

Stepan for Anze Kopitar?

Get the point? It's all relative. Nobody is untradeable.
Reading comprehension is your friend

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01-13-2011, 05:24 PM
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As much as I love Gaborik, I'd trade him for a slightly less-caliber player who's consistent and not as injury prone and isn't making 7.5 M per year.
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01-13-2011, 05:32 PM
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This is a strange topic.

Would you trade Callahan for Patrick Kane? Then he's not untradeable.

Dubinsky for Henrik Sedin?

Staal for Shea Weber?

Gaborik for Malkin?

Stepan for Anze Kopitar?

Get the point? It's all relative. Nobody is untradeable.
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Inferno was pretty clear in his OP that we're NOT talking overpayments here, i.e. he understands you would move anyone in an overpayment, but that's not what we're talking about.
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Reading comprehension is your friend
yeah i thought i was fairly clear. unless you think Stamkos for Stepan is a fair trade that is.

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