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01-12-2011, 04:07 PM
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Sens and Oilers

To Edmonton:
Jared Cowen
Milan Michalek

To Ottawa:
Magnus Paajarvi
Linus Omark


Would either team do it? Which team wins?

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I like Cowen but I'd rather keep Omark and Paajarvi, they're fun to watch.

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01-12-2011, 04:16 PM
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Michalek is too inconsistent and injury prone.
I wouldnt trade Paajarvi straight up for Cowen, and definitely wouldnt trade Omark for Michalek

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Another Sens/Oilers thread where we each greatly overrated our players.

Sigh.

(I don't mean this has happened yet, but it is inevitable)

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01-12-2011, 04:23 PM
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What would it take to get Ales Hemsky.

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If Hall works at C, trading Paajarvi would be a horrible idea. Not to mention, Petry is looking like he's on his way to becoming a top pairing D.

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What would it take to get Ales Hemsky.
Wiercioch and Lehner

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01-12-2011, 04:34 PM
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What would it take to get Ales Hemsky.
A bigger younger skilled body + 1st

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If Hall works at C, trading Paajarvi would be a horrible idea. Not to mention, Petry is looking like he's on his way to becoming a top pairing D.
I still wonder why he wasn't the 1st one called up.

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What would it take to get Ales Hemsky.
One of Cowen, Weiroch, Rundbland + 1st. Something Ottawa says no to I would imagine!

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If Hall works at C, trading Paajarvi would be a horrible idea. Not to mention, Petry is looking like he's on his way to becoming a top pairing D.
lets not get carried away .. I am a Petry fan <as you can tell by my avatar> but I wouldnt peg him on the first pairing of a playoffs team anytime soon. Lets just let guys like him and Marincin develop.

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I'd have to think that if the Sens preffered Paajarvi to Cowen that they would've drafted him when they had the chance. And I don't know why they'd trade Michalek for Omark either.

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lets not get carried away .. I am a Petry fan <as you can tell by my avatar> but I wouldnt peg him on the first pairing of a playoffs team anytime soon. Lets just let guys like him and Marincin develop.
That's why I said he's on his way. He looks like he has the tools and IQ to play top pairing minutes. We just have wait and see if he can put it together.

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Petry, top pairing in the making - yeah okay, in the AHL absolutely he has all the makings of a top pairing defense man in Oklahoma City

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I'd have to think that if the Sens preffered Paajarvi to Cowen that they would've drafted him when they had the chance. And I don't know why they'd trade Michalek for Omark either.
Well Im sure things change after a year or 2.. Both EDM and OTT would now gladly take someone like Kulikov or OReilly instead.

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Well Im sure things change after a year or 2.. Both EDM and OTT would now gladly take someone like Kulikov or OReilly instead.
Obviously things can change over the year and a half that's past since the draft, but I don't see any reason why either team would be questioning their selection. Both players are progressing pretty much as expected at this point. Just because Kulikov and O'Reilly made their teams out of camp, it doesn't mean they're necessarily going to be the better players either.

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01-12-2011, 04:56 PM
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Wiercioch and Lehner
No that would not get Hemsky

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A bigger younger skilled body + 1st
This would get hemsky

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I'd have to think that if the Sens preffered Paajarvi to Cowen that they would've drafted him when they had the chance. And I don't know why they'd trade Michalek for Omark either.
This is dead on although GM's do change their minds but this improves the Sens in my mind with the injuries they're going through, I'd love to have Cowen on the team but Paajarvi and Omark overvalue Cowen, I like Michalek but I'm getting sick of inconsistent players the Oilers have had to deal with in the past lately. I wonder if there could be any Hemsky-Michalek magic? have a Czech duo going

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No that would not get Hemsky
Ottawa don't make the best of trading partners with Edmonton. I'm not sold on Karlsson either.

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To Edmonton:
Jared Cowen
Milan Michalek

To Ottawa:
Magnus Paajarvi
Linus Omark


Would either team do it? Which team wins?
It's too early for the Oilers to trade Paajarvi, IMO. Not at this point of a "rebuild".

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What would it take to get Ales Hemsky.
Likely a center or a defenseman prospect who is close to making a first line/paring impact in the league. In other words, as close to a proven young player as possible. Don't mean any disrespect but I don't know if the Sens can offer that.

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01-12-2011, 05:07 PM
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I'd have to think that if the Sens preffered Paajarvi to Cowen that they would've drafted him when they had the chance. And I don't know why they'd trade Michalek for Omark either.
It's true and I think we stick by it as Cowen's size and mobility has a good chance of making up for any deficiency Karlsson potentially has down the road...size surely...and perhaps a bit of defensive responsibility (tons of time for that).

We've drafted heavily out of Sweden and used our scout from there heavily while we had him...but Paajarvi does not fit the profile at all of any of the players we've taken out of Sweden...

Michalek might be a lost cause...his knees are screwed at the moment you can just see he's uncomfortable on his feet doing anything at high speeds...hopefully time heals as it can...but it may not.

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Bad trading partners -- both teams are going in the same direction.

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I'd have to think that if the Sens preffered Paajarvi to Cowen that they would've drafted him when they had the chance. And I don't know why they'd trade Michalek for Omark either.
I'm sure ATL fans still say "if we wanted a Sedin, we wouldnt have drafted Stefan". There are hundreds of examples like this. Paajarvi has developed more rapidly than Cowen( SEL, World all-star, NHL, regarded as a top 10 prospect)

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This is dead on although GM's do change their minds but this improves the Sens in my mind with the injuries they're going through, I'd love to have Cowen on the team but Paajarvi and Omark overvalue Cowen, I like Michalek but I'm getting sick of inconsistent players the Oilers have had to deal with in the past lately. I wonder if there could be any Hemsky-Michalek magic? have a Czech duo going
Magic tricks in the PB while on the IR?

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I'm sure ATL fans still say "if we wanted a Sedin, we wouldnt have drafted Stefan". There are hundreds of examples like this. Paajarvi has developed more rapidly than Cowen( SEL, World all-star, NHL, regarded as a top 10 prospect)
Uhh Paajarvi had NHL size and speed which made his game very friendly to the NHL at an early age. I've said this many times, there are red flags in his game as far as high end scoring potential goes, scouts saw this as well. His hands are pretty average, same with shot, and right now there isn't much else other than a big and fast body with tons of effort...that's a good player....but it doesn't necessarily make him better than Cowen down the road.

Cowen? He fell to 9 because of a knee injury that hampered his development up until this year. How many 6'5 235 Dmen put up 45-50 points in the WHL in the past? Shea Weber? That's really the only real comparison I can think of...doesn't mean he'll be that good...but all he has to provide is a big body that can skate alongside Karlsson and separate people from the puck...things he already showed he can do in the pre-season. His fit in our organization makes him something we'd probably like to keep and develop.

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