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01-17-2011, 02:18 PM
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Regardless of officiating, didn't deserve to win this one, had some stretches, but nothing sustained. Young teams are notoriously inconsistent. NJD narrows the gap.

Pretty meh all around.

Bailey has looked better.

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01-17-2011, 02:21 PM
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For no sane reason whatsoever, that really long rule made me want to respond with something from Club Dread....

"Ehhhh.....coconut?"

Hooray boring day at work. You drove me insane.

Now let's close this game 6-5 Islanders....
You'd actually have to have a good team to come back here. Nothing to see here, move along.

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Debbies really had the coverage on JT today, but he didn't seem to have the same jump and patience. Did Moulson even play?

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Awful game.. seriously I understand if this was the Old Devils team but we should of won this game!!

Great game by Grabner and PAP..

Poulin and Bailey need to be sent down to Bridgeport

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Thanks to the great Garth Snow we are one step closer to a top 3 pick in the 2011 draft! Snow got to know this team cant win many games with Jack Killen us and Bruno Gervais in the line-up. Lets call-up Ty Wishart and see waht he can do already.

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Any reason Michael Grabner gets only 13 minutes icetime?

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Awful game.. seriously I understand if this was the Old Devils team but we should of won this game!!

Great game by Grabner and PAP..

Poulin and Bailey need to be sent down to Bridgeport
Too bad if you send down Bailey he'll get claimed off waivers

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01-17-2011, 02:32 PM
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You'd actually have to have a good team to come back here. Nothing to see here, move along.
Well, I did miss a good bit between Failblog & Failbook, so I guess I already got my daily "FAIL" without having watched my team lose. Does that constitute a win?

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Awful game.. seriously I understand if this was the Old Devils team but we should of won this game!!

Great game by Grabner and PAP..

Poulin and Bailey need to be sent down to Bridgeport
I wish Bailey still could. The last time they did was game #159, he'd be pinched if they tried.

Poulin, definitely. (not for the "I told you so" factor, but this is why I wish they'd have nabbed Leighton....)

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Thanks to the great Garth Snow we are one step closer to a top 3 pick in the 2011 draft! Snow got to know this team cant win many games with Jack Killen us and Bruno Gervais in the line-up. Lets call-up Ty Wishart and see waht he can do already.
They rush everyone else. There's no need to be so patient with Wishart since he's been pro for like, 5 years now. Can't hurt. (I did guess he'd be low-risk offer sheet material the Isles should target; had I thought trade, I'd have been spot on. I wanna see this kid step in soon.)

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Awful game.. seriously I understand if this was the Old Devils team but we should of won this game!!

Great game by Grabner and PAP..

Poulin and Bailey need to be sent down to Bridgeport
Grabner and PAP clearly were the best Isles today. The story of the day was defense, the Isle's don't have one. Devils played good defense, Lemaire's trap looked good today. Tavares and Moulson were invisible. They keep showing the commercial for Ovechkin playing the Isles on Thursday. He's gonna finally wake up and score an Ovechtrick on us.

P.S.- maybe they should juggle the lines a bit, would love to see Grabner with Tavares and Moulson. Even though PAP has played very well lately.

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01-17-2011, 02:35 PM
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Awful game.. seriously I understand if this was the Old Devils team but we should of won this game!!

Great game by Grabner and PAP..

Poulin and Bailey need to be sent down to Bridgeport
I didn't think Bailey was that bad today. Colliton and Joensuu are more unimpressive in my view.

I like Poulin and he had a solid couple games, but he's now being exposed with a brutal defense in front of him. He should be sent back to Bridgeport, because it's not doing him or the Islanders any good being in the NHL.

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I also hate to say it but Parenteau is growing on me. I like what he brings offensively. Just needs to work on his turnover number.

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01-17-2011, 02:38 PM
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I didn't think Bailey was that bad today. Colliton and Joensuu are more unimpressive in my view.

I like Poulin and he had a solid couple games, but he's now being exposed with a brutal defense in front of him. He should be sent back to Bridgeport, because it's not doing him or the Islanders any good being in the NHL.
Only problem is is that leaves us with the unreliable DP and Nathan Lawson who has been brutal outside of that game in Calgary.

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I also hate to say it but Parenteau is growing on me. I like what he brings offensively. Just needs to work on his turnover number.
Just need to get him off the first line and he's fine.

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I also hate to say it but Parenteau is growing on me. I like what he brings offensively. Just needs to work on his turnover number.
If we had the personnel, we could work on his line number and he wouldn't draw so much grief. He gets points, so he's obviously somehow effective.

John Tavares is still probably 80% of his hockey IQ, though.

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01-17-2011, 02:41 PM
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I didn't think Bailey was that bad today. Colliton and Joensuu are more unimpressive in my view.

I like Poulin and he had a solid couple games, but he's now being exposed with a brutal defense in front of him. He should be sent back to Bridgeport, because it's not doing him or the Islanders any good being in the NHL.
Poulin's rebound control has gotten really bad. That and getting over to make that second save. OTOH it's not like the D is reading the play that well on those rebound plays. Last two Devils goals were pretty much the same play.

No penalties called in the 2nd and 3rd period of this one.

Amazing about that goal turnover. Usually its the home team that gets the benefit of the doubt on a questionable call.

Just embarassing game on the officials part.

Overall this team really didn't play with a lot of urgency. If the Devils are gonna test the bounds of obstruction and interference you have to force their hand so you get some calls. Didn't really see any of that.

Oh, and game like this is where I miss Sim. He'd have gotten in Brodeur's business the rest of the game after he threw that fit.

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01-17-2011, 02:48 PM
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Pretty crap game all around. Especially in the third when the Devils when into their patten trap

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01-17-2011, 03:01 PM
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I also hate to say it but Parenteau is growing on me. I like what he brings offensively. Just needs to work on his turnover number.
Agreed, but he needs to be on the 3rd line. The Isles still need to find Tavares a legit 1st line winger to play with. PAP is doing a decent job at filling the void at the moment I suppose, but there is definately tons of room for improvement.

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01-17-2011, 03:23 PM
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Was at the game, at least the 2nd period was very entertaining.
Read some of the Devs board and man do they have some pent up anger over there. Basically their take on the non-goal is that they have gotten many bad breaks this year so F the Islanders. They want to know about bad breaks how about the last 10+ years of being an Islander fan- LOL They better get better soon because that fan base will explode!
My thoughts on the game:
Grabner is very fast and if he figures out how to be a finisher he is going to be a great weapon.
Poulin is going to need some more time before he is the #1 here.
We really need some NHL defensemen. Commodore anyone?
I think you are going to have to learn to love and hate PAP. He can generate some offense but at a high risk/cost.
The first few games I was at this year Schremp really looked involved in the offense, lately/today not so much.
I don't know, but Bailey really needs to get involved more.

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01-17-2011, 03:35 PM
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Grabner has been impressive recently. He should be given more icetime and hopefully we see that in the coming games.

Tavares is looking stronger through a stretch in which last season he struggled. That's an improvement I expect from a blooming talent. Forget all of the "he needs better wingers" arguments. He brings a great game all by himself. Better linemates will only exploit his talents further. He's going to bring it all by himself. Legitimate wingers will only further his great play.

Bailey I see as the opposite. First, he needs to establish that he can do it all by himself. He hasn't done that yet, aside from the begining of the season flurry. Talent alongside would certainly help, but it starts from great, consistent play from a guy that already brings that.

Schremp had a good game DEFENSIVELY. I really like to see that. His game is improving away from the puck. That's a great sign.

MacDonald and Hamonic have been an eye-opener, no doubt. Another two players that have stepped up and done it by themselves. There will be ups and downs but their recent solid play indicates that they're getting it. These boys are obviously not legitimate #1's and #2's but it is a great sign that they've shown the prowess to get it done.

This is how we attract UFA's to come here. These guys show that they've got the game to compliment other players, not the other way around.

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01-17-2011, 06:45 PM
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First 30 minutes were just lousy.

I still think he's got boatloads of potential, but this Isles team has got to find a way to get Poulin back to starting on the farm. Don't like this trial by fire thing with a goalie menagé trois, especially in front of such a weak defense. And also, Koskinen has been stinkin' up the place down in BPort. I know Lawson can't win here, but if we're gonna be offered to the wolves in all things goaltending, then I'd rather have Poulin gaining experience in fighting for a playoff spot down on the farm.

The first goal against just looked like crap. The team was sleeping. Gervais just stood in front of the net and watched Tedenby make the move and Zharkov ensuingly score. Goring has been harking on Gervais playing better of late, but he was sleeping through the first period. Just loved how he watched Clarkson spin around with the puck for 15 seconds - guess he was afraid to get elbowed or something.

The penalty that led to the Kovy goal was really mehhhhh.

The 3rd was a great move by Tedenby and terrible defending by the Isles. Watch the replay of that goal and please tell me what in all of God's great green nature Bailey was doing there??? Well hey, he had a front row seat to watch the best goal in the game (Tedenby's sleek backhander) - I guess that's something. To his defense, this crap with him switching between wing and center from shift to shift was bound to lead to something like that.

The team didn't get many dangerous pucks to the net. Off year or not, Brodeur is always capable of making life hard, so if you're not even bombarding him with stuff, what's to be expected?

Konopka kind of got *****slapped by Fraser in his fight. Martin was at the end of a 90 second shift. He should not have obliged to Clarkson at that juncture. And what's the word on Jurcina? Relapse or something else?

Of course, the non-calling of Zharkov's stick to Comeau's face and the still very, very disappointing denial of Parenteau's goal were just disheartening. I don't the know the details of 'incidental' goalie contact, but there was nothing going on there until Brodeur started complaining. Moreover, I swear I've seen dozens of goals like that since the lockout and none of them have been called back. I don't know how McCreary could possibly tell from his standpoint that that was 'goaltending interference', or whatever he decided. And if it is, doesn't it also have to be a penalty?

Whatever - just a very, very strange situation and it stinks no matter how you look at it. I'm wondering if this is gonna get any attention on highlight reels. Gonna be curious to see if the TSN and Versus panels discuss it. That obviously did a lot to change the character of the game. Something like that is mentally hard to overcome for young players.

A real bummer.

I'll say this though - I can't see a Lemaire team finishing last. They already look much different than a few months ago. Throw in Parise in February and I wouldn't even be surprised if they're good for a scare. They've now got 7 of the last 8 possible points. I can't see them falling back into a big losing phase. Lemaire teams just don't do that. Now he's had time to clean this group up a bit.

I don't know folks, but when looking at the next 38 games, does anyone here think we could go like 20-15-3? That's be a respectable finish, right? Welp, even that would only give this team 78 points.

It simply looks like there may be no way out of a top 3 pick next summer.

To conclude, just saw this tweet from Botta:
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Believe trade buzz from any1 but @TSNBobMcKenzie, @DarrenDreger, @NYP_Brooksie and team beats (like @KatieStrangNYI) at own risk.
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I don't know folks, but when looking at the next 38 games, does anyone here think we could go like 20-15-3? That's be a respectable finish, right? Welp, even that would only give this team 78 points.

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No chance.

This team looks like ass. Today, once again, proved that point.

I was there and I thought everyone looked awful. The wonder twins (AMac and Ham) looked very average and poor many times. Bailey should have never come back up to the NHL. Comeau sucks. I don't care how many points he gets on his annual hot-streaks. He's too inconsistent.

Shut down Tavares and you win the game. Every single time.

Poor passing. Poor decisions. Awful PP. Poor defense around the net (which led directly to 2 goals).

This team is ass. We will always be this way unless significant changes are made.

Period.

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Regardless of officiating, didn't deserve to win this one, had some stretches, but nothing sustained. Young teams are notoriously inconsistent. NJD narrows the gap.

Pretty meh all around.

Bailey has looked better.
Agreed, the effort today was terribly inconsistent and we paid for it.

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Islanders fall to Martin Brodeur and the Devils,5-2

http://nhlhotstove.com/islanders-fal...the-devils5-2/

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