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im honestly asking, with Daley, Niskanen, Grossman, and Fistric all in under 27, what is the need for McBain? Are those 4 really that bad? They looked real good in the 2 games we played this season.
I wish Buffalo had the assets to make this happen. Montador isn't a good enough centerpiece, Sekera is having a great year but doesn't provide the offense from the blueline the deal would need and Pysyk isn't nearly far enough along in development to be there.
Maybe something around Stafford and Sekera with Buffalo taking salary back? Or did they fix the righty issue with Langs?
I'm interested to hear what other Penguins fans think about this. Too much to give up for Neal? About right? Swap out the 1st for a prospect, maybe Jefferey? If something in this range were actually offered I think the Stars would have to pull the trigger. Personally I'd rather we get a closer prospect like Jefferey in return than the pick, but either way it's solid.
I'd do Goligoski and Jeffrey for Neal.
I just figured you guys would rather have the 1st rounder....
If I'm Boston, I'd offer Stuart, Paille, and our 1st for Benn and a 3rd.
Boston gets a nice winger.
Dallas gets a tough, shut down defensemen, and a defensive forward to help their 21st ranking PK, not to mention a first rounder.
That's a pretty bad package, Dallas are in the playoffs so trading a great young player for a package where a late 1st rounder is the best piece doesn't make any sense.
I'm interested to hear what other Penguins fans think about this. Too much to give up for Neal? About right? Swap out the 1st for a prospect, maybe Jefferey? If something in this range were actually offered I think the Stars would have to pull the trigger. Personally I'd rather we get a closer prospect like Jefferey in return than the pick, but either way it's solid.
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I'd do Goligoski and Jeffrey for Neal.
I just figured you guys would rather have the 1st rounder....
I agree with andy's assessment here, but as a Pens fan I'd do either deal. Jeffrey looks to be a solid 3rd line center that can also play wing, which isn't as sexy as a first but is a lot closer to a sure thing to help out your team at some point like you said.
Would Dallas fans be more likely to do either of the Gogo for Neal trades right before the draft than right now? Or do you think the PMD is a must before the deadline?
I agree with andy's assessment here, but as a Pens fan I'd do either deal. Jeffrey looks to be a solid 3rd line center that can also play wing, which isn't as sexy as a first but is a lot closer to a sure thing to help out your team at some point like you said.
Would Dallas fans be more likely to do either of the Gogo for Neal trades right before the draft than right now? Or do you think the PMD is a must before the deadline?
Good question AgentM. I'm curious to here the answer myself.
If a PMD is really what Dallas needs, then it might make sense right now. I'm not so sure though, I can't speak for the Stars fans but I would do the deal either now or in the future.
I agree with andy's assessment here, but as a Pens fan I'd do either deal. Jeffrey looks to be a solid 3rd line center that can also play wing, which isn't as sexy as a first but is a lot closer to a sure thing to help out your team at some point like you said.
Would Dallas fans be more likely to do either of the Gogo for Neal trades right before the draft than right now? Or do you think the PMD is a must before the deadline?
I would rather take the lower risk route and go for the young player who can build with the young corps already established (Dallas loses one in Neal but gains two in Gogo and Jeffrey) rather than the 1st. I'm not crazy about a late 1st in what is being called a fairly weak draft.
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Good question AgentM. I'm curious to here the answer myself.
If a PMD is really what Dallas needs, then it might make sense right now. I'm not so sure though, I can't speak for the Stars fans but I would do the deal either now or in the future.
Offseason. I'm convinced the Stars are a good team and not just playing above their heads anymore but a big part of that is chemistry. The cameraderie in the room seems to be at the highest level it's been here in Dallas in quite a while; I wouldn't risk subtracting a key piece of that to get the longterm piece they need.
I would rather take the lower risk route and go for the young player who can build with the young corps already established (Dallas loses one in Neal but gains two in Gogo and Jeffrey) rather than the 1st. I'm not crazy about a late 1st in what is being called a fairly weak draft.
Offseason. I'm convinced the Stars are a good team and not just playing above their heads anymore but a big part of that is chemistry. The cameraderie in the room seems to be at the highest level it's been here in Dallas in quite a while; I wouldn't risk subtracting a key piece of that to get the longterm piece they need.
Waiting till the offseason would be better for Pitt too in my opinion. That way we don't have a hole on D from moving Gogo going into the playoffs.
Fills RW problem and gives a PMD which the Stars need.
There's not a huge RW problem really, and if you could say anything about the position it's that we could use a sniper type right shot player, which Hemsky isn't. This just isn't the type of package the Stars should hope to get for Neal.
So out of Benn, Neal, Eriksson who has the most trade value?
Would you be interested in Regher++ for Eriksonn? Or Regher+ for Neal?
I was thinking something around a prospect not named Backlund and a high end pick not our 1st, maybe 2 seconds next year?
Also just out of curiosity what would it take to get RIchards out?
Dal: Regher, Stajan,3rd rnd 2011, Niemesz
Cgy: Brad Richards (Dallas Conditional 2nd if he doesnt resign)
Your G.M traded that 3rd rounder to Edm for Staios last year.
Like i said in the other trade i'd do something like Subban Pouliot 1st rounder Weber for Neal Ott Niskanen and a 3rd
Or Subban plus our 1st for Benn Fistric
Ott can play on 3 differents lines a good pk player such as Benn Niskanen might be able to give himself a boost the kid has been good in the past. he is still young but a bit fit in Dallas (no pp time)
Subban is IMO the type of player the Stars need he is Bigger and faster than Goligoski (will be a far better d than Goligoski) and Players like Carlson. Have also a hard shot.
But Montreal Needs a winger like Benn or Neal so if Niskanen came back i would pull the trigger on it
Neal for Goligoski and a 1st. I'd do, but I'd rather trade Morrow+ Glennie for Golgoski + Jeffery.
There's no way this team trades Benn. He's young, improving, cheap, and versatile. Heck I don't want to trade Neal for that matter but since Morrow won't be moved Neal is the next best choice. Unfortunately the list of young puck moving defensemen who are available for trade is very short. We're going to have to draft our own some day. Hopefully we'll finally stop passing on the Fowler's come draft day.
Neal is a BEAST but Benn might just be better. If the Leafs were trying to get either start with Schenn + Reimer/Rynnas + Kadri & you might get their attention. I would love to see either guy wearing the Blue & White (Same w/ Eriksson)
