HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Top Three Most Difficult Teams for Us this Season

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-17-2011, 10:36 PM
  #1
KingWantsCup
Grinch who stole...
 
KingWantsCup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,864
vCash: 350
Top Three Most Difficult Teams for Us this Season

1.) Philadelphia (0-3-0), 3 games remaining - Major red flag. The Flyers have us by the balls thus far, going 3-0 against us and whooping our ***** 11-4 in goal totals. It's crucial we pick up our game against them. Truthfully, we're not equipped to beat a team like Philly until we get a number one center and a good veteran defenseman. Regardless, you can't afford to have a losing season record against any divisional opponent.

2.) Tampa Bay (0-1-2), 1 game remaining - Tampa is another team, with our current roster, that I'd be uncomfortable facing in the playoffs. They're outscoring us 11-7. We let a serious opportunity go in that ridiculously long shootout we had against them at home a few weeks ago. And we were pretty lucky to get the other OT loss, Gaborik barely got us there with a late goal. We just have to do better. There's no excuse to make Tampa's goaltenders look like all-stars.

3.) Montreal (0-2-0), 2 games remaining -
Montreal has just as many points as us. We're playing close-ish games as goal totals would suggest at 5-3, but we need to be better, especially against a with the team we're competing with most for seeding right now. Quite frankly I think we're a better team, but we just suck in Montreal and Hank let a softie in at home.

Who do you think are the top three teams we need to improve on?

KingWantsCup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2011, 10:40 PM
  #2
Florida Ranger
Bring back Torts!
 
Florida Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tampa, FLA
Country: United States
Posts: 6,085
vCash: 500
Consistency. Playing 60 minutes a game. Not 20.

That's what we need to do against all three.

Florida Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2011, 10:41 PM
  #3
DMPD
Mats, Zuke of NY
 
DMPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 20,381
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingWantsCup View Post
1.) Philadelphia (0-3-0), 3 games remaining - Major red flag. The Flyers have us by the balls thus far, going 3-0 against us and whooping our ***** 11-4 in goal totals. It's crucial we pick up our game against them. Truthfully, we're not equipped to beat a team like Philly until we get a number one center and a good veteran defenseman. Regardless, you can't afford to have a losing season record against any divisional opponent.

2.) Tampa Bay (0-1-2), 1 game remaining - Tampa is another team, with our current roster, that I'd be uncomfortable facing in the playoffs. They're outscoring us 11-7. We let a serious opportunity go in that ridiculously long shootout we had against them at home a few weeks ago. And we were pretty lucky to get the other OT loss, Gaborik barely got us there with a late goal. We just have to do better. There's no excuse to make Tampa's goaltenders look like all-stars.

3.) Montreal (0-2-0), 2 games remaining -
Montreal has just as many points as us. We're playing close-ish games as goal totals would suggest at 5-3, but we need to be better, especially against a with the team we're competing with most for seeding right now. Quite frankly I think we're a better team, but we just suck in Montreal and Hank let a softie in at home.

Who do you think are the top three teams we need to improve on?
Agree with those 3, and losing to Montreal and Philadelphia just sucks.

__________________


rip
DMPD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2011, 10:44 PM
  #4
BlueshirtBlitz
Rich Nash
 
BlueshirtBlitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 19,404
vCash: 500
We can beat TB and Montreal easily, though I agree they're the 2 teams who've given us the most trouble past Philly.

I just don't see anyone beating Philly this year and they take the cup.

BlueshirtBlitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2011, 10:47 PM
  #5
DMPD
Mats, Zuke of NY
 
DMPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 20,381
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz View Post
We can beat TB and Montreal easily, though I agree they're the 2 teams who've given us the most trouble past Philly.

I just don't see anyone beating Philly this year and they take the cup.
Don't say that please, I couldn't take a Philadelphia cup win around here; I might blow my ****ing head off.

DMPD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2011, 10:48 PM
  #6
Wraparounds
Powerful Wizard
 
Wraparounds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,444
vCash: 500
Those are easily the worst teams for us.

Wraparounds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 02:05 AM
  #7
ceej730
Registered User
 
ceej730's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 307
vCash: 500
Those teams are spot on. And going to a school near Philly i have to hear it from all the stubborn Flyer fans

ceej730 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 02:10 AM
  #8
Placid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Norway
Posts: 3,525
vCash: 500
Flyers looked beatable enough, its just a matter of being there for the whole game. Dont think i've seen a Lightning game this year, so dont dare say much about them. The habs are problematic because of their speed. When they "click", they really click and the Rangers seriously struggle trying to keep up and getting the puck.

Well, thats my amateurish analysis anyway

Placid is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 02:57 AM
  #9
Khris Creider
Registered User
 
Khris Creider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 2,503
vCash: 500
1. Philadelphia
2. Pittsburgh
3. Tampa Bay

Khris Creider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 05:28 AM
  #10
GarretJoseph*
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 7,614
vCash: 500
Philly & Tampa for sure.

Have to see another game against Montreal to see what happens.

I thought Carolina played us well.

GarretJoseph* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 06:00 AM
  #11
Patriks7
Registered User
 
Patriks7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Country: Slovakia
Posts: 604
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz View Post
We can beat TB and Montreal easily, though I agree they're the 2 teams who've given us the most trouble past Philly.

I just don't see anyone beating Philly this year and they take the cup.
Gotta agree that there isn't really anyone in the east capable of taking them in a 7 game series. They are like the Hawks last season, depth in every position imaginable. But I have a feeling if they do make it to the Finals, the west winner will be better and not give them the cup

Patriks7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 06:32 AM
  #12
Darrelle Lundqvist
Swagelin
 
Darrelle Lundqvist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 1,782
vCash: 500
tampa doesn't scare me much because we clearly have the edge in goaltending, even though they have a deeper core on offense. i'd much rather see them than pittsburgh

Darrelle Lundqvist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 06:47 AM
  #13
SupersonicMonkey*
DROP THE PUCK
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 16,230
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA View Post
Consistency. Playing 60 minutes a game. Not 20.

That's what we need to do against all three.
This.

It has nothing to do with a lack of a high priced 7+ mil center and a high priced 6+ mil defenseman.

We lose those games because we took stupid penalties early. And we didn't show up to play the first 30 minutes of the games.

SupersonicMonkey* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 06:51 AM
  #14
Wraparounds
Powerful Wizard
 
Wraparounds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,444
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gabby33 View Post
1. Philadelphia
2. Pittsburgh
3. Tampa Bay
We're 2-1 against Pittsburgh.

Wraparounds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 06:59 AM
  #15
DM23BK30
Registered User
 
DM23BK30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Country: United States
Posts: 17,270
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz View Post
We can beat TB and Montreal easily, though I agree they're the 2 teams who've given us the most trouble past Philly.

I just don't see anyone beating Philly this year and they take the cup.
Boston, Montreal, Washington and Pittsburgh can all beat Philly in a 7-game series

I will never understand the Flyers. They are going to go into the postseason with a goaltending tandem yet again.

No team in the last 30 or so years (at least) has won a Cup with dueling goalies. They need one goalie to play all 20 or so playoff games, and I just dont see Bobrovski or Boucher doing that.

I dont put too much stock in the regular season. The truth is that the Rangers pick and choose when they want to show up, and when they play those teams, they dont show up.

DM23BK30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:01 AM
  #16
Miller Time NYR
Registered User
 
Miller Time NYR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,581
vCash: 500
I agree with those teams, they just better figure out a way to beat the lightning bc I'm going to that game.

Miller Time NYR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:10 AM
  #17
Melrose_Jr.
Registered User
 
Melrose_Jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Providence, RI
Country: United States
Posts: 10,692
vCash: 500
You'd think they could get up for these games against the Flyers just because it's the Flyers. I think it's the downside of a really young team devoid of a lot of the history.

Unlike Tampa, Philly has been able to cover for their shortcomings in goal. Boucher probably couldn't hold a job in the NHL without an absolute brick wall defensive strategy in front of him, and as good as Bobrovsky has been, his performance is on par with Leighton's last year. Will it matter? Doesn't seem like it.

Melrose_Jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:18 AM
  #18
bumrusherer
Registered User
 
bumrusherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,820
vCash: 500
Philly are just better than us, Which is no shame when you look at what they have achieved recently.

Montreal, I have no idea there. I think that is more about us not giving 60 minute efforts.

Tampa, they just seem to be a bad match up. We dont have great team speed and their main strength for their better players is speed. They suffocate us and because we are not great with puck possession, they create chances against us regularly.

bumrusherer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:20 AM
  #19
bumrusherer
Registered User
 
bumrusherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,820
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Savvy Lee View Post

I dont put too much stock in the regular season. The truth is that the Rangers pick and choose when they want to show up, and when they play those teams, they dont show up.
I disagree. The main reason why we have as many points as we do right nowe is because of a consistent work ethic.
We dont have crazy scoring talent in every area...we have to work hard and rely on Goaltending to win games.

bumrusherer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:27 AM
  #20
hpNYR
HF Forecaster
 
hpNYR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Burbank, CA
Country: Armenia
Posts: 7,100
vCash: 500
Add Boston to the mix.

hpNYR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 07:55 AM
  #21
jniklast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 5,330
vCash: 500
I think we have a problem with teams that have balanced scoring. We have one of the best shutdown pairs in Staal-Girardi, but of course they can't always play. But even that wouldn't be much of a problem (our other d-pairs play well enough) if our offense could generate more pressure. But we really struggle with that often (aside from the late 10 minute push in the last two games), in part due to our atrocious faceoff percentage.

Another big problem (and a big reason why we struggle with Tampa so much) is that our PK isn't that good this season in my opinion. Sure the stats might not be too bad and we have the most shorties, but I think it's too easy for the opposing teams to set up in our zone. And when they have big shots and quick passing like Tampa and Montreal had, it's just a matter of time until they score unless Lundqvist (or Biron) turn into god mode. Maybe I'm wrong but I think we were better at that in recent years when we were constantly among the best PK in the league.

Oh and of course the biggest reason we are struggeling is that we don't score enough. Which in turn is a result of our very poor PP. In the end you don't win many games when you can't score more than two goals. Our record this year is more than respectable considering that fact.

jniklast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 01:43 PM
  #22
Patriks7
Registered User
 
Patriks7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Country: Slovakia
Posts: 604
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Savvy Lee View Post
Boston, Montreal, Washington and Pittsburgh can all beat Philly in a 7-game series

I will never understand the Flyers. They are going to go into the postseason with a goaltending tandem yet again.

No team in the last 30 or so years (at least) has won a Cup with dueling goalies. They need one goalie to play all 20 or so playoff games, and I just dont see Bobrovski or Boucher doing that.

I dont put too much stock in the regular season. The truth is that the Rangers pick and choose when they want to show up, and when they play those teams, they dont show up.
You do remember that they got to the Finals last season right? Of course, their weak goaltending was exposed by the Hawks, but they added to their defensive core and added some pieces to their offensive core so they might be able to over come that.

Patriks7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 01:52 PM
  #23
vipernsx
Flatus Expeller
 
vipernsx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Country: United States
Posts: 6,529
vCash: 500
I don't know why we have had such a problem with Montreal. Like last year, this team is not better than us and we should finish ahead of them.

vipernsx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 02:02 PM
  #24
KreiMeARiver*
Have Confidence
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UES
Posts: 6,621
vCash: 500
I agree with the OP wholeheartedly.

We need to start scoring goals in the FIRST period.

KreiMeARiver* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2011, 02:14 PM
  #25
NYRSchrute217
Registered User
 
NYRSchrute217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,581
vCash: 500
I want to see how the Rangers respond in 3 weeks in Montreal. Should be an absolute bloodbath sandwiched by PIT, NJ and then DET, ATL, PIT and LA. Will be interesting to see how they respond.

Tampa always plays us tough, but they have no goaltending, not sold on 42 year old Roloson. I think we could beat them in a series.

NYRSchrute217 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:16 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.