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01-19-2011, 05:48 PM
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Best possible lineup for the playoffs

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Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Hodsgon - Kesler - Samuelsson
Moen - Malhotra - Hansen
Glass - Reasoner - Tambellini
Bolduc

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo
Alberts, Weaver

Luongo
Schneider

First of all, for this to happen Salo has to be out until the playoffs on LTIR (or on an AHL conditioning stint when the season ends, 5 games max). There has to be a general knowledge of this around the league. The other moves are Raymond to MTL for Moen + 3rd and sending our 2nd and MTL's 3rd to Florida for Reasoner and Weaver. Waive Rome, send Volpatti and Shiro down. Call up Hodgson when the PO's begin and have Salo play when he's ready.

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01-19-2011, 05:56 PM
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Or if Shirokov lights it up, keep him up.

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01-19-2011, 05:57 PM
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Your dream lineup is one that arguably is worse than their current lineup?

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Kesler isn't nearly abandoned enough on that line for it to have resonance with Canucks fans.

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That lineup looks too inept offensively. I wouldn't do a Moen/Raymond tradeoff in a million years.

Call me crazy but I'd also take Alberts over Salo in the playoffs. Alberts is playing much better than last year and the Canucks need his physicality and hitting presence.

IMHO, the best possible lineup the Canucks could ice is the one with the most skill. Use the Detroit model. A guy like Glass is available if a fight is necessary.

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Tambellini - Hodgson - Hansen
Torres - Malhotra - Glass

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Alberts - Ballard

Luongo
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01-19-2011, 06:05 PM
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I forgot Torres. Guess he bumps Glass to the pressbox and Bolduc to Manitoba. Also maybe switch Hansen with Tambo.

Call me crazy but I'd rather have Moen over Raymond for the playoffs.

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01-19-2011, 06:09 PM
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D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Tambellini - Hodgson - Hansen
Torres - Crosby - Glass

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Alberts - Ballard

Luongo
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01-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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I said it at the beginning of the year and I'll say it again; if Hodgson is in the top 6 or has any sort of significant role on the Canucks come playoff time, Canucks aren't serious about winning the Cup. Could he be plugged in for a minor role if injuries arise? Sure, but anything beyond that and Gillis hasn't done his job.

I honestly can't believe people keep inserting him in potential lineups. No one will probably agree with me though.

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01-19-2011, 06:18 PM
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Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Mason Raymond ($2.550m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Sergei Shirokov ($1.300m)
Jannik Hansen ($0.825m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($2.500m)
Raffi Torres ($1.000m) / Tanner Glass ($0.625m) / David Moss ($1.300m)
Jeff Tambellini ($0.500m)

Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Sami Salo ($3.500m)
Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m) / Keith Ballard ($4.200m)
Andrew Alberts ($1.050m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) /Cory Schneider ($0.900m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,783,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$3,383,333

This roster assumes that Sami comes back for playoffs only. This 23 man roster slips us just under the cap:

Defense- 8 Capable D men, pending Tanev sticking with the club and Rome being sent elsewhere (SJS). This way if Salo or any of our Dmen get hurt, Alberts is in, which is awesome. Than Tanev if needith be.

Forwards: This assumes Shirokov sticks and Raymond starts producing again.

4th line- My only trade is to the Flames for David Moss. Sandwich him and Torres between Glass and you've got yourself a mean 4th line, that can score one or two goals a series.

3rd line- Hansen is a an absolute work machine. He skates hard, makes hits and PKs. Only bad thing is he can't score for the life of him. I think he'd be perfect in a shutdown role, especially since neither Malholtra and Old Samuel have much footspeed for a shutdown line.

2nd line - Speed and Skill. If Shirokov can actually stick with the club and produce this would complete my team.

*** The reason why Tambo is my 13th forward is because the guy obviously is a extreme confidence player and only does well when the team does well. If we were down 2 games to 0, i just wouldn't think he would be the game shifter. Also, he can fit in with the 2nd line as a winger, 3rd line as a winger or 4th line as a center.

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01-19-2011, 06:19 PM
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IMO...

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Glass - Hodgson/Bolduc/Trade Acquisition - Tambellini

Extra: Volpatti

Ehrhoff - Edler
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo (*returning for the playoffs)

Extra: Alberts

Luongo
Schneider

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01-19-2011, 06:40 PM
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I said it at the beginning of the year and I'll say it again; if Hodgson is in the top 6 or has any sort of significant role on the Canucks come playoff time, Canucks aren't serious about winning the Cup. Could he be plugged in for a minor role if injuries arise? Sure, but anything beyond that and Gillis hasn't done his job.

I honestly can't believe people keep inserting him in potential lineups. No one will probably agree with me though.
Then he can be swapped out for Hansen or Tambo. Lots of possible line combos here.

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01-19-2011, 07:15 PM
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Then he can be swapped out for Hansen or Tambo. Lots of possible line combos here.
Raymond has proven more offensively than Hansen, Tambo, and Hodgson.

I don't know how you trade a more productive player for a less productive player and throw a rookie into the top 6/9 and still expect that forward group to be better than before.

Your OP is definitely not the best possible lineup imo.

The best lineup would be the lineup we have now plus Salo and potentially a new 4th line centre.

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01-19-2011, 07:25 PM
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I said it at the beginning of the year and I'll say it again; if Hodgson is in the top 6 or has any sort of significant role on the Canucks come playoff time, Canucks aren't serious about winning the Cup. Could he be plugged in for a minor role if injuries arise? Sure, but anything beyond that and Gillis hasn't done his job.

I honestly can't believe people keep inserting him in potential lineups. No one will probably agree with me though.
Agree. Force fitting a rook on a cup run? Silly.

Sedin Sedin Semin
Raymond Kesler Burrows
Torres Malhotra Samuelsson
Glass Mair Hansen

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Ballard
Alberts Rome

I love wild speculation. It's why I come here.

"And God said unto man the birds will fall from the sky, the beasts will fall in the fields and Vancouver shall win the cup."

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My best possible lineup for when the playoff starts would have a lot to do with how people are playing when the playoff starts. That doesn't really help this thread, though.

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Best lineup without making trades:

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Shirokov (assuming he keeps playing like he can. A HUGE hypothetical, I know)
Torres - Malhotra - Samuelsson
Tambellini (underrated forechecker) - Glass - Hansen (carries the line)

Extras: Volpatti, Bolduc (really don't want him in the lineup come playoff time)

Ehrhoff - Edler
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo (Switch with Bieksa if Bieska reverts to Bad Bieska)

Extra: Alberts

Luongo
Schneider

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01-19-2011, 08:03 PM
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Okay well, there's actually ways to upgrade Raymond if the Canucks were willing. I think.

When a player is on LTIR the team is allowed to go over the cap by the amount of the replacement players. Reasoner and Weaver would eat up $2.05M of Salo's $3.5M. If Gillis went all in for this year he could deal Raymond + for an offensive upgrade and have the room to add a $4M cap hit, more if they waive other players like Rome. In a perfect world I'd like Brenden Morrow, although I doubt Dallas would. I'd trade Raymond + Schroeder/1st for Morrow (not sure if Gillis would trade 2 1st rounders in a row though). Morrow makes $4.1M, so this would leave 675k in cap room.

This is all, of course, speculative as only GMMG knows how long Salo will be out until. But if he was injured until then and Gillis/Gilman could make it work. Fully healthy playoff lineup:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Morrow - Kesler - Tambellini
Torres - Malhotra - Samuelsson
Hansen - Reasoner - Hodgson
Glass

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo
Weaver, Alberts

Luongo
Schneider

I hope I'm not missing other cap-related things.

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I wonder what would happen if AV put Alberts on Kesler's line. Force Alberts to get to the net and forecheck violently crashing into people all over the place while Kesler maintains chaos and Raymond fires at the net.

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I wonder what would happen if AV put Alberts on Kesler's line. Force Alberts to get to the net and forecheck violently crashing into people all over the place while Kesler maintains chaos and Raymond fires at the net.
Vigneault would be updating his resume.

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How about...

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson (*crosses fingers that playoff-Samuelsson shows up)
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Glass - Reasoner - Tambellini
Bolduc, Hodgson, Volpatti

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo
Alberts, Rome

Luongo
Schneider


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Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson (*crosses fingers that playoff-Samuelsson shows up)
Torres - Malhotra - Hansen
Glass - Reasoner - Tambellini
Bolduc, Hodgson, Volpatti

Edler - Ehrhoff
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Salo
Alberts, Rome

Luongo
Schneider
I like this. There is so much flexibility that it is amazing.
- Burrows can go to 2nd or 3rd line to push Samuelsson up to first line
- Raymond can be put on the 3rd line to have it defensively responsible while putting Torres down to 4th line and pushing Tambellini to 2nd line (permitting he heats up - hopefully even more valor in the playoffs)
- Hansen can go to the 2nd line to forecheck the puck to Kesler or go to 4th line to provide balance (if Tambellini gets pushed to 2nd line)

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Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Hodgson
Hansen-Malhotra-Samuelsson
Torres-Trade Asset-Glass

Spares: Tambellini

Edler-Ehrhoff
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Ballard-Salo

Spares: Alberts, Rome

Luongo
Schneider

This would allow us to roll 4 competent lines that are not redundant and all are very useful and would allow our spare to be Tambellini who can step in and already knows how the system works. The defense looks extremely solid if it can stay healthy. The goalies are apple pie. No worries there.

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Torres-Trade Asset-Glass

This would allow us to roll 4 competent lines that are not redundant and all are very useful and would allow our spare to be Tambellini who can step in and already knows how the system works. The defense looks extremely solid if it can stay healthy. The goalies are apple pie. No worries there.
that has been the biggest question, hasn't it

its pointless arguing an exact line combo, since we all know it can be changed at an instant.

but you need the right group of players to juggle around, and that center spot is really the last piece

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that has been the biggest question, hasn't it

its pointless arguing an exact line combo, since we all know it can be changed at an instant.

but you need the right group of players to juggle around, and that center spot is really the last piece
The centrepiece, if you will But I agree in that for any line to be useful you need a competent centre, otherwise it won't work... unless he's flanked by All-Star wingers or something.

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Something outrageous:

1st: Daniel Henrik Samuelsson 1

2nd: Shirokov Kesler Hansen 2

3rd: Raymond Malhotra Tambellini

4th: Torres Reasoner Burrows 3

1 - because in the playoffs, Samuelsson >> burrows
2 - because Hansen is our best forechecker at the moment, and Shirokov could be our most talented forward other than Daniel, Henrik and Kesler
3 - because Torres and Malhotra need to be split up, and Burrows will score more with Reasoner than with Malhotra

Glass 13th forward.

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I think we should put Alberts on the PP (a la Jovanovski), or at least get him ready for the playoffs and teach him how to be real mean down low.

I feel we could be getting a lot out of Alberts in the playoffs. I hope this is given good thought about, because I think it would be a great idea.

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