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Nabokov to Detroit (570K), Nabby on waivers, claimed by the Islanders

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01-20-2011, 11:26 AM
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I can't see him clearing. It isn't like Detroit can throw out a waiver-proof contract at him.

I'd hope the Flyers would take a chance on him. He's an upgrade over Boucher even with all the time off.

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1 thing I'm questioning though.

Holland has to know there is only a small chance of him clearing waivers.

There may be a bigger picture here.

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Since the Devils never think outside the box, The Islanders should claim Nabakov then send him to Detroit for a draft pick. Or anyone else who wants him.

It's like getting a free asset with little risk. If nobody wants Nabokov in a trade just waive him since he's a UFA at end of year or let him backup DP till he gets hurt again.
You can't do any of that.

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You can play him a game or two then deal him at the deadline.
I don't think you can. Pretty sure before you can trade him you have to put him back on waivers to the team you took him from and to any of the teams that put a claim in on him the first time around.

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01-20-2011, 11:29 AM
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I thought that if you aquire a player off waivers he could not be traded that year? So I am not sure if he could be traded at the deadline.

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1 thing I'm questioning though.

Holland has to know there is only a small chance of him clearing waivers.

There may be a bigger picture here.
2 ways to look at it.

1- Doing a favour for another team and will get something in another trade down the road.

2- What do you have to lose other than your time in negotiating?

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01-20-2011, 11:31 AM
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1 thing I'm questioning though.

Holland has to know there is only a small chance of him clearing waivers.

There may be a bigger picture here.
There is no bigger picture, either he clears waivers and they get a backup or he doesn't and they were in the same position before they started.

No reason not to spend a couple days negotiating for the possibility

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Blues claim him

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I don't think you can. Pretty sure before you can trade him you have to put him back on waivers to the team you took him from and to any of the teams that put a claim in on him the first time around.
You are correct

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I don't think you can. Pretty sure before you can trade him you have to put him back on waivers to the team you took him from and to any of the teams that put a claim in on him the first time around.
You are correct, the only way they can be traded after getting picked up on waivers is if you trade them the next year, examples Quincey, Moore, etc

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Blues claim him
Then Halak to Minors




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You are correct, the only way they can be traded after getting picked up on waivers is if you trade them the next year, examples Quincey, Moore, etc
I'd assume that you could if you put the guy on waivers and no one took him that you'd be able to trade him. One of those contract for contract type deals. Probably rare, but could happen.

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Washington might claim him? The russian connection on the Capitals

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With two of St. Louis's signings getting picked up by San Jose and Nashville, I can't see Nabakov getting through either. These teams are competing in the tight west to get in the playoffs, no way a cheap signing like Nabakov gets past a team even like the Sharks again...or another team looking to add a goalie in the west.

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Ellis or Smith to Detroit for a box of donuts?
Id do it. Glazed please?

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With two of St. Louis's signings getting picked up by San Jose and Nashville, I can't see Nabakov getting through either. These teams are competing in the tight west to get in the playoffs, no way a cheap signing like Nabakov gets past a team even like the Sharks again...or another team looking to add a goalie in the west.
Sharks, no more cap space.

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He'll never make it through - depending on the financials of course.

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01-20-2011, 11:42 AM
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2 ways to look at it.

1- Doing a favour for another team and will get something in another trade down the road.

2- What do you have to lose other than your time in negotiating?
Probably just over thinking it on my part. You and Ishad are probably right, Holland has nothing to lose.

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01-20-2011, 11:42 AM
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I don't think he makes it through waivers if the deal is only for the rest of this season. What if it isn't though? What is Detroit's situation for next season concerning goalies?

Edit: Just checked - top 3 goalies will all be UFAs next season.

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This scenario probably won't happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if Detroit signs Nabby, Toronto claims him, and Giggy waives his NTC to go to Detroit (he's already said recently the family would stay in Toronto if he moved-his kid is doing well). Depending on how much he gets paid, Toronto gets cheaper goaltender, Giggy goes to Detroit for Goaltending depth for Stanley Cup run.

How long does Nabby get signed in T.O for though-and what was his relationship with Wilson.

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I don't think he makes it through waivers if the deal is only for the rest of this season. What if it isn't though? What is Detroit's situation for next season concerning goalies?
Osgood, Howard, and MacDonald all UFA come July 1

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Any team that claims Nabokov can't trade him unless they put him on waivers again and he clears first.

From the CBA.....
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13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.

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This scenario probably won't happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if Detroit signs Nabby, Toronto claims him, and Giggy waives his NTC to go to Detroit (he's already said recently the family would stay in Toronto if he moved-his kid is doing well). Depending on how much he gets paid, Toronto gets cheaper goaltender, Giggy goes to Detroit for Goaltending depth for Stanley Cup run.

How long does Nabby get signed in T.O for though-and what was his relationship with Wilson.
Not sure If I get this part.
I thought it was that Detroit signs Nabokov then he has to go on waivers and if a team wants him they have to claim him and pay whatever Detroit signed him for?

yes/no?

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I think he'll clear. Holland will probably structure this with a heavy playoff bonus incentive. Makes it possible for the Wings to defer the bonus amount to next year's cap, but for teams with cap space today, they'll have to carry the entire amount this year.

Teams pushed up against the cap may want to save their own cap space for their own injuries, etc. It's a long year.

 
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