Realistically, Dean Lombardi will stay the course. After an evaluation in the off-season, it would be interesting to see what he does. Does he overhaul the entire staff? What if that doesn't work out? If there's one guy that needs to be replaced it's Kompon.
Stay, think about this from a logistical standpoint, you'd basically have to can him before the road trip and dump a 10-game trip against very good opponents in Stevens' lap.
That is not productive for the team or fair to Stevens.
Plus you're pretty well limited to a promotion from within the organization and really Stevens himself given that he's already there and he's got head coaching experience. He is a solid hockey guy but not the kind of coach that's going to turn things around right away in my estimation. I saw him all the time in Philly, obviously I see him very regularly in person here. Plus I always have the mindset that if the assistant had the answers, why didn't he start talking earlier?
Give Murray the chance to ride it out, if it doesn't work out you can cast a broader net in the offseason that extends to lower levels of the Kings organization and external candidates. Let's not turn a cold shoulder to Murray that quickly, just a couple months ago he was shunning praise for being the quickest Kings coach to 100 wins with the club. He's been to the Finals, he's coached great players. I don't see any reason to pull the plug that quickly, they had a slump and came out of it before, it's not unthinkable that it happens again.
It's not like this is a veteran-heavy team either, they are going to reshape around a young nucleus. Worst-case scenario, things stay like this and it means better draft position and a defined position as sellers at the deadline.
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To give a serious answer to the question, as others have said and I will reiterate, who do you replace him with at this point? It is too late into the season to make a drastic change to wipe out the entire coaching staff, and replacing Murray with Stevens would be redundant.
Lombardi can't also be interviewing other candidates while Murray is still coaching, that would look unprofessional, so the only logical point to make such a change would be at the conclusion of the season, where he can sit down and extensively interview and analyze his options and find the best fit for this team.
You also never know who may become available during the summer. More options may become available then. Until then, we (and the players) have to suck it up and watch this team and accept them for what they are: an average hockey team.
Stay, think about this from a logistical standpoint, you'd basically have to can him before the road trip and dump a 10-game trip against very good opponents in Stevens' lap.
That is not productive for the team or fair to Stevens.
Plus you're pretty well limited to a promotion from within the organization and really Stevens himself given that he's already there and he's got head coaching experience. He is a solid hockey guy but not the kind of coach that's going to turn things around right away in my estimation. I saw him all the time in Philly, obviously I see him very regularly in person here. Plus I always have the mindset that if the assistant had the answers, why didn't he start talking earlier?
Give Murray the chance to ride it out, if it doesn't work out you can cast a broader net in the offseason that extends to lower levels of the Kings organization and external candidates. Let's not turn a cold shoulder to Murray that quickly, just a couple months ago he was shunning praise for being the quickest Kings coach to 100 wins with the club. He's been to the Finals, he's coached great players. I don't see any reason to pull the plug that quickly, they had a slump and came out of it before, it's not unthinkable that it happens again.
It's not like this is a veteran-heavy team either, they are going to reshape around a young nucleus. Worst-case scenario, things stay like this and it means better draft position and a defined position as sellers at the deadline.
You make a good point. We have suffered for years. Whats another 1/2 season. If this is the case and we keep losing I hope D.L makes one last push to stock the cupboards once and for all. Williams should bring back a decent prospect, Handzus, Sturm and Poni may bring back a pick, I would even get rid of Stoll as he may have some value.
Fresh start next year! New coaches, new support players with speed.
I don't think he is the guy to take us to the promised land, but how many cards does Lombardi really have left to play? Whoever replaces him has to be the perfect fit, or "the guy." Who is available now that fits that mold to where it would be worth throwing Murray out?
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I agree, if TM is canned there are a couple of guys available now but they are in other positions. If we wait until the offseason which I understand is a million years away and doubly so if you are a season ticket holder but if we wait until the offseason things open up considerably and I would rather try and get it right then see us make even more mistakes.
Stevens in my opinion would be an absolutely horrible option.
To give a serious answer to the question, as others have said and I will reiterate, who do you replace him with at this point? It is too late into the season to make a drastic change to wipe out the entire coaching staff, and replacing Murray with Stevens would be redundant.
Lombardi can't also be interviewing other candidates while Murray is still coaching, that would look unprofessional, so the only logical point to make such a change would be at the conclusion of the season, where he can sit down and extensively interview and analyze his options and find the best fit for this team.
You also never know who may become available during the summer. More options may become available then. Until then, we (and the players) have to suck it up and watch this team and accept them for what they are: an average hockey team.
To give a serious answer to the question, as others have said and I will reiterate, who do you replace him with at this point? It is too late into the season to make a drastic change to wipe out the entire coaching staff, and replacing Murray with Stevens would be redundant.
Lombardi can't also be interviewing other candidates while Murray is still coaching, that would look unprofessional, so the only logical point to make such a change would be at the conclusion of the season, where he can sit down and extensively interview and analyze his options and find the best fit for this team.
You also never know who may become available during the summer. More options may become available then. Until then, we (and the players) have to suck it up and watch this team and accept them for what they are: an average hockey team.
What about Morris from Mnch?
Boudreau has done well in Washington
The Ducks promoted Babcock from the AHL
and same with with Carlyle from Manitoba
I've never been a Murray fan so I chose "Murray gone asap" even though when I factor in what I think Lombardi would do if he actually fired Murray mid-season (promoting the equally inept John Stevens), I'd probably prefer Murray gets canned in the off-season.
Murray's done a better job than I expected but I think he's taken this team as far as he can.
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I've never been a Murray fan so I chose "Murray gone asap" even though when I factor in what I think Lombardi would do if he actually fired Murray mid-season (promoting the equally inept John Stevens), I'd probably prefer Murray gets canned in the off-season.
Murray's done a better job than I expected but I think he's taken this team as far as he can.
Boudreau has done well in Washington
The Ducks promoted Babcock from the AHL
and same with with Carlyle from Manitoba
The thing is that Bruce along with having double same initials (BB) like we like, is that he actually has talent and is an exceptional coach. The guy lives breathes and eats hockey and is so respected around the league and on each of his teams. BB would have been an excellent hire.
Everything I have said about BB I would say Morris hasn't discovered yet. Maybe he will but in the time I have spent talking with the guy and a few of players that have gone through his system or are currently in it is that he isn't a coach or a teacher as much as he is an agitator. He makes panic decisions. I don't know, maybe I am biased so ask around.
I would be against Morris and or Stevens as they are similar.
Doesn't anyone think the players on this team can play themselves out of this funk?
Doesn't anyone believe that playing into a winning streak, overcoming this bad run on their own and succeeding together as a unit would do wonders for these players and their self-belief for the rest of their careers?
I voted gone ASAP. Fire him and let the chips fall where they may. Sometimes you just have to say what the ****. The offense is so incredibly predictable the rest of the league has studied the tape and are waiting for it. To not make in game adjustments and attack the middle of the ice is just plain bad coaching. I can see if this offense has netted Murray Stanley Cup victories but this offense has only gotten him fired. To stick with something that has been proven not to work is amazing logic.
Doesn't anyone think the players on this team can play themselves out of this funk?
Doesn't anyone believe that playing into a winning streak, overcoming this bad run on their own and succeeding together as a unit would do wonders for these players and their self-belief for the rest of their careers?
Have you ever thoguht about this damage the coaching staff is doing will be really difficult to repair ????
Aren't all of us complaining about missing creativity and how Murray's sytem killed it ?
Don't we point on Brown and complain why he is not able to make any creativ play and just shoots the goalie into the chest ???
Isn't the reason for our slump that the other teams exactly know what they have to do ???
Don't we have too many holes to really compare with the good teams ????
And all that suddenly dissapears over night because a miracle happened and everyone is playing complete different hockey ?
Doesn't anyone think the players on this team can play themselves out of this funk?
Doesn't anyone believe that playing into a winning streak, overcoming this bad run on their own and succeeding together as a unit would do wonders for these players and their self-belief for the rest of their careers?
Well yes. That is what I have been saying. The thing to me is that there is a separate issue at hand here and that to me is the viability of TM remaining as our coach in regards to his ability to take us to the promised land. In that there is room for debate and I believe that we should wait until the offseason before finding a more suitable coach for our needs.
