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02-20-2011, 09:39 AM
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I still believe that Filatov will have a productive NHL career but I seriously doubt that this will happen with the Blue Jackets. After 3 years of drama and false starts, it may be better for all parties involved if Filatov is traded and gets a fresh start. Even with his low value.

I still think he can fetch us a solid NHL defensemen in return.

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I still believe that Filatov will have a productive NHL career but I seriously doubt that this will happen with the Blue Jackets. After 3 years of drama and false starts, it may be better for all parties involved if Filatov is traded and gets a fresh start. Even with his low value.

I still think he can fetch us a solid NHL defensemen in return.
Agreed.

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I still believe that Filatov will have a productive NHL career but I seriously doubt that this will happen with the Blue Jackets. After 3 years of drama and false starts, it may be better for all parties involved if Filatov is traded and gets a fresh start. Even with his low value.

I still think he can fetch us a solid NHL defensemen in return.
Has Filatov damaged his value and reputation as much as Zherdev did after his 2006-2007 season? His 32 point season along with all the other issues led to his value being at an all time low. Howson had to give him a chance to raise his value before trading him.

Or is Filatov so young and unproven that he is immune to such damage to his value right now? He might not be worth as much as he was in his draft year, but I do wonder...

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02-20-2011, 10:56 AM
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Has Filatov damaged his value and reputation as much as Zherdev did after his 2006-2007 season? His 32 point season along with all the other issues led to his value being at an all time low. Howson had to give him a chance to raise his value before trading him.

Or is Filatov so young and unproven that he is immune to such damage to his value right now? He might not be worth as much as he was in his draft year, but I do wonder...
The Filatov situation differs from Zherdev in that he's regressed 3 straight years. I just don't see him doing anything of note in a Jackets uniform. Yeah, his value is low, but the time is right to trade him. We need to add for a playoff run and Johanson/Calvert/Moore/2011 1st aren't going anywhere.

I doubt he's worth as much as some on here might think. Gilbert Brule only got us Raffi Torres when he was traded 3 years after his draft, and I'd expect a similar return, a 2nd/3rd liner or 2nd/3rd pairing D-man who can help us make a run to the playoffs/next year.

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02-20-2011, 11:03 AM
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The Filatov situation differs from Zherdev in that he's regressed 3 straight years. I just don't see him doing anything of note in a Jackets uniform. Yeah, his value is low, but the time is right to trade him. We need to add for a playoff run and Johanson/Calvert/Moore/2011 1st aren't going anywhere.

I doubt he's worth as much as some on here might think. Gilbert Brule only got us Raffi Torres when he was traded 3 years after his draft, and I'd expect a similar return, a 2nd/3rd liner or 2nd/3rd pairing D-man who can help us make a run to the playoffs/next year.
Brule also had a larger sample of NHL fail on his resume compared to Filatov. About 100 games worth. Filatov may still have more potential in a lot of GM's eyes compared to Brule at the time of that trade.

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The Filatov situation differs from Zherdev in that he's regressed 3 straight years. I just don't see him doing anything of note in a Jackets uniform. Yeah, his value is low, but the time is right to trade him. We need to add for a playoff run and Johanson/Calvert/Moore/2011 1st aren't going anywhere.

I doubt he's worth as much as some on here might think. Gilbert Brule only got us Raffi Torres when he was traded 3 years after his draft, and I'd expect a similar return, a 2nd/3rd liner or 2nd/3rd pairing D-man who can help us make a run to the playoffs/next year.
Johnny Boychuck and Dan Paille for Filitov and Clitsome?

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The Filatov situation differs from Zherdev in that he's regressed 3 straight years. I just don't see him doing anything of note in a Jackets uniform. Yeah, his value is low, but the time is right to trade him. We need to add for a playoff run and Johanson/Calvert/Moore/2011 1st aren't going anywhere.

I doubt he's worth as much as some on here might think. Gilbert Brule only got us Raffi Torres when he was traded 3 years after his draft, and I'd expect a similar return, a 2nd/3rd liner or 2nd/3rd pairing D-man who can help us make a run to the playoffs/next year.
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02-20-2011, 11:29 AM
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Johnny Boychuck and Dan Paille for Filitov and Clitsome?
Not a good fit for that return. We have a billion Boychuks and Pailles in the system already.

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02-20-2011, 11:32 AM
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Would you offer our 1st round Pick? +? ++?
Not really good at that - I'm more a "looks at offer and decides if it feels right" kind of pretend trade discussion guy.

I think I'd start with Golobef/Savard and a 3rd? I'd prefer Weber be the player plus higher pick. I really don't know.

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would you take lets say the Sens 3rd overall and 22nd overall in this years draft with a b prospect for Brassard and Vorachek????

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I really doubt GC is going anywhere.

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would you take lets say the Blue Jackets 12th overall and 2nd rounder in this years draft with a f prospect for Spezza and Karlsson?????

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Not a chance. Nice picks to have, but we want to keep the proven-and-still-improving NHL players we already have.

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Not really good at that - I'm more a "looks at offer and decides if it feels right" kind of pretend trade discussion guy.

I think I'd start with Golobef/Savard and a 3rd? I'd prefer Weber be the player plus higher pick. I really don't know.
Don't think that we have any chance at getting Wideman for a small parts and pieces deal. Gonna be a give to get deal. Fla has pretty much said just about everyone is available, don't know what they want back. There has been speculation about McCabe, just thought Wideman might be a better fit.

Filatov & 2nd? 1st & 3rd?

Anybody?

This is my first excursion into the proposal realm.

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02-20-2011, 12:09 PM
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some our comments are ideas glen sather when he has got redden or mike milbury and his "awesome" trades. and if someone thinks calvert/whom i like/ is our savior he is wrong filatov is more bettet he is very creative matt is not such as he. imo filatov can be an awesome player in our jacket not another but he needs more time for his development as we wait. and do not forget every player has another development another psyche. if it says you something. psyche and confidence is very important for player.

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I've been wanting to deal Filatov for Wideman for 2 years now. Filatov and a 2nd for him would be fine by me, we're lousy with 2nd rounders anyway.

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02-20-2011, 12:12 PM
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by the way IF we will play in PO tell me our maximum. first second round maximum. and for it we have to trade one of our the best talents only for one bad season? good logic.

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Are we whispering with Minnesota for a trade? I couldn't help but notice AP made a point to say it would be a wild, wild week and so I wonder....maybe? If so, who do we want?

And Mt, glad to see you! I agree. Trading Nik is a No, No!

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wideman for filatov... welcome mike milbury. fortunately we have howson.

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If this was Filly Cheese Steak's one bad season, what was last season?

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Filatov may have all the talent in the world but if he is unwilling to play the NA game by aggressively going after the puck, his talent amounts to not much. There is only so much a talented player who floats around the perimeter can help a team. And that certainly does not fit the style Arniel is teaching. Attitude must match ability and I tend to doubt that will ever happen with Filatov.

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would you take lets say the Sens 3rd overall and 22nd overall in this years draft with a b prospect for Brassard and Vorachek????


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I've been wanting to deal Filatov for Wideman for 2 years now. Filatov and a 2nd for him would be fine by me, we're lousy with 2nd rounders anyway.
Two years ago, when Filatov was the top prospect in the world, you'd have traded him for Dennis Wideman?

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If this was Filly Cheese Steak's one bad season, what was last season?
imo his last season was not bad i red THERE in cbj forum he was our the second best player when he played with voracek and vermette. and to na play do you think that only agresive play is all? well let dorsett or boll play in the first or second line they are agresive. we need creativity. he much showed it. btw in his first and secon season played aggresive too i do not unerstand whats happened now.

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