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01-25-2011, 03:59 AM
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3rd period come from behind wins...

anyone have the stats on this? how many we have? i would have to think it's top 3 in the NHL if not outright the best record for come from behind wins.

what a crazy year so far.

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01-25-2011, 04:05 AM
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I believe it's 8 and that's #1 in the league so far this season.

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01-25-2011, 04:07 AM
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7-12-3, .318%, #1 in the league.

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We seem to have quite a few categories as #1 in the league this year.

Shorties, Road wins etc. Its nice to see

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01-25-2011, 05:39 AM
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I believe it's 8 and that's #1 in the league so far this season.

I'm confused, NHL.com list us at 7-12-3, but Elias sports Bureau award us 8 wins, you might be right.

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From Elias: The Rangers beat the Capitals, 2-1, in a shootout after tying the game on a goal by Marian Gaborik with 6:41 remaining in the third period. It was the Rangers' league-high eighth win in games in which they trailed during the third period this season. Five of those eight victories have come via shootouts (two in regulation time, one in overtime).
http://espn.go.com/espn/elias

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I'm confused, NHL.com list us at 7-12-3, but Elias sports Bureau award us 8 wins, you might be right.



http://espn.go.com/espn/elias
That Elias quote says trailing "during" the 3rd period, not going into the 3rd.

There was that game against the pens where we were up 1-0 and then they scored twice in the third to take the lead, and then we scored late to tie it and won it in overtime.

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01-25-2011, 07:12 AM
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Some interesting stats at this point in the season

A few things that jump out at me:

Win % with a shot advantage: .538
shot disadvantage: .652

I kind of noticed that too, we seem to lose the games where we outshot our opponents by a lot, and just nothing goes in

And besides the 52 shot effort against roloson, none of our super high scoring games had shot counts ridiculously high, it was more of a result of nonexistant goaltending on the other side. (We got outshot 31 - 20 in the 7-0 win vs washington)

Faceoff %: 45.8

Worst in the league besides carolina and edmonton.. nothing to be proud of here. This is a pretty major problem and is probably something that needs to be focused on in practice

Power play: 15.8

Again, one of the worst in the league, we're ranked #23 and beating the teams below us is nothing to be proud of. But at least we have the #8 penalty kill.

The shot (dis)advantage thing holds for other good teams too..

Pittsburg and philly win more when outshot by an even bigger margin then us.

New Jersey almost ALWAYS loses when they outshoot their opponents.. .087 (that's not a typo, 8.7% when they're outshooting)

the islanders have never won when they outshot their opponents

That's pretty interesting, more shots on goal equates to losing.

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01-25-2011, 07:41 AM
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Yeah I came to the same conclusion afterwards. Impressive nonetheless.

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and someone will rename them "Come from the Side Wins" in 3....2....1....

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That is ridiculous, when being behind to start the 3rd period, we have gotten points in 10 out of 22 games. A spectacular 45 %.

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01-25-2011, 08:23 AM
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Its not that more shots on goal equate to losing. Its that in general when a team gets a lead, especially late in the game, or up by 2 or more, they play a more defensive style of hockey and "drop back" and give up outside shots. So the team that is losing is peppering the goalie with shots. When they fail to get an equalizer, they rack up the shots but no goal, get a loss, and outshoot the opponent.

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That is ridiculous, when being behind to start the 3rd period, we have gotten points in 10 out of 22 games. A spectacular 45 %.

17 points right there. Last season we would've been lucky to pick up half of these points. Take away 8 or 9 of those points and we would be in #9 spot.

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01-25-2011, 08:55 AM
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so we win every game when leading starting the 3rd, have a pretty good record trailing, what's our record coming into the 3rd tied?

Those must be our worst games.. That's strange

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I could be wrong but didn't we pick up Craig Mactavish for faceoffs+experience and I think Skrudland a few years later? Seem's like a problem we've had for a while with our kids (drafted/traded for in diapers, ect)

We had somebody else that was awesome on faceoffs but just can't remember his name at this moment.

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Its not that more shots on goal equate to losing. Its that in general when a team gets a lead, especially late in the game, or up by 2 or more, they play a more defensive style of hockey and "drop back" and give up outside shots. So the team that is losing is peppering the goalie with shots. When they fail to get an equalizer, they rack up the shots but no goal, get a loss, and outshoot the opponent.
Bingo.

We're also an even strength team in regards to the special teams stats. The more ES total in the game, the better off we should be.

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I think we should also mention the third period play, the comebacks, the SHG total, The PK, the road record, how the record against playoff teams has changed, and the +23 differential that is 4th in the conference and 5th in the league.

There are a lot more stats then just the negative ones.

But I agree, Faceoffs and PP are a huge problem they may rear their ugly heads come crunch time.

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Having the 8th best PK while also being one of the worst faceoff teams is incredible. If we were even a mediocre faceoff team we might have the best PK in the league.

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I think we should also mention the third period play, the comebacks, the SHG total, The PK, the road record, how the record against playoff teams has changed, and the +23 differential that is 4th in the conference and 5th in the league.

There are a lot more stats then just the negative ones.

But I agree, Faceoffs and PP are a huge problem they may rear their ugly heads come crunch time.


If we can get our faceoffs to something reasonable, the PK and PP would improve a lot I think


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Taking a lot of shots is just a sign, in most instances, that a team isn't capable of developing quality scoring chances and just heaves pucks at the net out of desperation. The best offensive teams forego just shooting in favor of using their chances and time in the offensive zone wisely and creating quality chances that have a higher likelihood of either finding the back of the net, creating juicy rebounds, or at the least, increasing the likelihood of a penalty being drawn.

The Rangers don't really fall into either category, though. They do heave the puck at the net desperately, but they have trouble even maintaining puck control in the offensive zone, so they don't get that many opportunities to even take that bad angle shot that Tortorella seems to love so much.

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01-25-2011, 02:39 PM
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This team needs a face-off wizard. Wast drury good at those a long time ago? If the yotes drop back I'd love for glen to swing a trade for Belanger

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Another pretty cool stat I saw today is that in six games this season Ovechkin and Crosby have combined for zero goals against the Rangers.

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