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01-27-2011, 05:03 PM
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I unfortunately have the same feeling. I feel a Vinny Prospal retirement coming soon.
who knows he seems to be taking his time. They are playing it right so if he's ready great. He won't be back next yr so lets hope for his sake and the Rangers sake he lasts the yr

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Regarding sending MDZ down to Hartford Torts has said he's got an obligation to put the best team possible on the ice. Drury has shown he can't beat out AHLers for a job. NO WAY he deserves one over NHLers. Send him back to Trumbul!!!
the fact that Drury is getting 4th line minutes shows he is throwing the best lineup out there. Drury as a 4th line C actually does serve a role we just hate it because he makes a stupid amount of money

I have no clue who will sit when all the healthy bodies are back but my bet is excess F like EC are moved at the deadline and they rotate guys like Feds/Avery and who knows it may be an easy call if Vinny can't last the year

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01-27-2011, 10:03 PM
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Avery - Prospal - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccarello
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

Drury deserves to sit in the pressbox IMHO

I liked the chemistry to start the season with the Arty, Duby, Cally line so I think it warrants another try.

I agree with NOT messing with Stepan, Wolski Zuccarello, that line is really clicking.

I also think that Boyle, Prust and Feds have played well together so they should also be kept as a unit

that puts Avery on the line with Gabby and Prospal. If coach wants to sit Seanus because of more boneheaded play than I reckon Christensen or Drury gets the nod. My hunch says that Drury gets the shot to prove he can still play at a high level. I would like to consider it his swan song but I think everyone here knows that Drury will stick around. But we can always hope he takes a page from the Naslund book and retires this offseason for a job in the front office.

IF the NYR make the second season I would think that Christopher Drury is going to step up and be a difference maker...

yeah pipe dream I know

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01-28-2011, 01:27 AM
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I'm probably crazy, but...

I'd really like to see

dubi - zuc - gabby

Imho I think Zuc can develop into a 1C. And if dubi and zuc can't wake gabby, he's dead.

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01-28-2011, 04:03 AM
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I'd really like to see

dubi - zuc - gabby

Imho I think Zuc can develop into a 1C. And if dubi and zuc can't wake gabby, he's dead.
Yep... your crazy...

Move away from 2 lines that work, and try to teach a 5'9 rookie - whose trying to establish himself as an NHL'er - a new position...

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01-28-2011, 08:01 AM
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Like has been said a few times already in this thread... it is highly likely that Prospal is far from being ready to play and was just activated from IR to make up the numbers so the Rangers could send those 5 players down to the Whale for the weekend games.

I would imagine Callahan will be back after the break but Prospal is going back to IR once we recall some of the young ones from the Whale.

So that makes the balancing of the lines less of a problem, however if Prospal is coming back later in the season, it still comes down to that same ol' question: "Where the hell does Drury fit in ?"

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01-28-2011, 08:35 AM
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Avery - Prospal - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccarello
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

Drury deserves to sit in the pressbox IMHO

I liked the chemistry to start the season with the Arty, Duby, Cally line so I think it warrants another try.

I agree with NOT messing with Stepan, Wolski Zuccarello, that line is really clicking.

I also think that Boyle, Prust and Feds have played well together so they should also be kept as a unit

that puts Avery on the line with Gabby and Prospal. If coach wants to sit Seanus because of more boneheaded play than I reckon Christensen or Drury gets the nod. My hunch says that Drury gets the shot to prove he can still play at a high level. I would like to consider it his swan song but I think everyone here knows that Drury will stick around. But we can always hope he takes a page from the Naslund book and retires this offseason for a job in the front office.

IF the NYR make the second season I would think that Christopher Drury is going to step up and be a difference maker...

yeah pipe dream I know

Just a random thought i had reading through this Topic--- do you think Torts would maybe do something similar with Drury that Ruff did with Ray? Instead of having him sit in the pressbox, keep him on the bench to be vocal as an asst coach?

I don't see it happening since Torts only like having two coaches- him and sully, but it was just a rumbling in my head so i figured i would throw it out there..

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01-28-2011, 08:39 AM
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I'd really like to see

dubi - zuc - gabby

Imho I think Zuc can develop into a 1C. And if dubi and zuc can't wake gabby, he's dead.
Zuccarello isnt a natural center

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01-28-2011, 09:17 AM
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We have a much higher chance of Dubinsky centering that potential line than Zuccarello. Dubi always has it in his repertoire to fall back on.

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01-28-2011, 11:34 AM
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I'm not seeing that. Eminger has been pretty damn good. I know Torts likes DZ's PP ability, but you are still sacrificing so much defensively out there with him.

We'll see i guess.
A week ago I would have agreed. But Eminger played less than 10 minutes against Florida and I don't think he was hurt. I see him as number 6 right now and if DZ comes up I think unless something changes he's the odd man out. I also agree that DZ and Gilroy would not play together. I would play McD and Gilroy and then DZ and Sauer. The only problem with this is Sauer should get about 20 minutes and DZ shouldn't. We'll see.

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01-28-2011, 11:36 AM
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Just a random thought i had reading through this Topic--- do you think Torts would maybe do something similar with Drury that Ruff did with Ray? Instead of having him sit in the pressbox, keep him on the bench to be vocal as an asst coach?

I don't see it happening since Torts only like having two coaches- him and sully, but it was just a rumbling in my head so i figured i would throw it out there..
If only Chris Drury was vocal. The only time he talks is when he is frustrated or someone is playing borderline, against the rules hockey aka Avery-Brodeur matchups. Drury always comes over to Avery when he gets riled up and tries to be the "level headed step dad" which I find is funny because you know Sean in his head is like "Yep, this dope is coming over to come talk to me about crap when he barely skates or produces or shows any heart"

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01-28-2011, 11:40 AM
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the fact that Drury is getting 4th line minutes shows he is throwing the best lineup out there. Drury as a 4th line C actually does serve a role we just hate it because he makes a stupid amount of money

I have no clue who will sit when all the healthy bodies are back but my bet is excess F like EC are moved at the deadline and they rotate guys like Feds/Avery and who knows it may be an easy call if Vinny can't last the year
I agree. I think everyone forms their opinion of Drury in the context of his salary. He has been playing with good energy lately and has generated scoring opportunities on his own without anyone giving him the puck in scoring areas. His PK is strong and he's the only player on this team that can win a faceoff consistently. So, in the off season should we explore a buyout because we could get a better bang for our buck? Absolutely. But as we stand, in the middle of the season, he should play because he still does a few things very well.

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01-28-2011, 11:47 AM
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i've noticed a trend this season

anyone who plays with dubinsky looks good and gets a boost in their game

therefore, Dubi should be with Gabby for a bit

i'd love to see:
dubi - AA - gabby
wolski - stepan - MZA
feds/avery - boyle - callahan
feds/avery - drury - prust

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01-29-2011, 02:01 PM
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I agree with the notion that there are three lines that should not be messed with

Dubi - Arty - Cally
Wolski - Steps - Zucc
Feds - Boyle - Prust

how about for Gabby's lines we try Prospal in the middle and Christensen on the LW? Dubi really took off after being moved over to the wing maybe Christensen will see a boost in his game. If not you can always stick Avery over there or maybe bring up one of the young guys.

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01-30-2011, 10:43 AM
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I say Drury. Unless he does something spectacular that shows he's better than any of the other guys, he's a goner. Personally I wouldn't mind the scratch. The team did well without Cap'n Dru for most of the season.
Maybe i'm delusional but I think this team is missing something on the PK without Drury. I know, a PK specialist isn't worth superstar $$ but at this point the salary shouldn't determine roster spots because he counts against the cap, scratched or not...

Having said that, I honestly have no idea who would go if not Drury.

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I agree with the notion that there are three lines that should not be messed with

Dubi - Arty - Cally
Wolski - Steps - Zucc
Feds - Boyle - Prust

how about for Gabby's lines we try Prospal in the middle and Christensen on the LW? Dubi really took off after being moved over to the wing maybe Christensen will see a boost in his game. If not you can always stick Avery over there or maybe bring up one of the young guys.
I agree 150%.

More so with;
Dubi - Arty - Cally
Feds - Boyle - Prust



[Prospal-EC-Gaborik][1st line]
[Dubi - Arty - Cally][2nd line]
[Wolski - Steps - Zucc][3rd line]
[Feds - Boyle - Prust][3rd line]


By the second period you can start divvying up lines based on performance

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01-30-2011, 07:24 PM
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Dubinsky Prospal Gaborik
Wolski Stepan Zuccarello
Anisimov Boyle Callahan
Fedotenko Avery Prust

Staal Girardi
Sauer Eminger
McDonagh MDZ
Gilroy

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01-30-2011, 07:32 PM
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Dubinsky Prospal Gaborik
Wolski Stepan Zucc
Feds Anisimov Cally
Avery Boyle Prust

somewhere in that neighborhood would make me happy.

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01-30-2011, 07:33 PM
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You have to LOVE the fact that Wolski-Stepan-MZA would ultimately be your 3rd line. Even though it can be argued that the dubi-AA-cally line could make for the 3rd line though dubi has been having a great year and cally and AA have been having at the very least average years for themselves. Either way thats amazing. Its amazing to have talents like MZA and Wolski on the wings of a 3rd line with the very special playmaker stepan in the middle.

Whats even more amazing is you have your current 18 goal scorer centering the 4th line in Boyle. It just shows the amount of depth. And Torts would start rolling all 4 lines a lot more evenly in ice time. Thats a plus because this way your forwards wont be as tired during games. They'll have more energy. And that would continue right into the playoffs.
Great post. I agree, this team has talent and a lot depth. It's crazy how some HF fans don't see this. With Torts having this team believing and if Hank can play elite in the playoffs, this team can seriously compete and make a run at this.

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01-30-2011, 07:47 PM
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Dubinsky Prospal Gaborik
Wolski Stepan Zuccarello
Anisimov Boyle Callahan
Fedotenko Avery Prust

Staal Girardi
Sauer Eminger
McDonagh MDZ
Gilroy
I like the lines.

On defense I suspect that DZ will continue to be the odd man out if the offense produces a few goals. If goal scoring is a major issue DZ will be inserted in the hopes that he can lift the power play. The team is built to play 2-1 games. If a defenseman can't play the shut down game he won't play no matter how much potential he has.

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01-30-2011, 08:17 PM
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Staal Girardi
Sauer Eminger
McDonagh MDZ
Gilroy

there's a reason MDZ got sent to Hartford. It's called being a puck turnover machine. he's only got recalled as cover. Gilroy has played way better than him - he's in the line up for the next stretch of games.

Long term who knows. hopefully MDZ gets his shizzle back

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01-30-2011, 08:20 PM
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I dont mean to be the pessimist, because I'm not, but I keep seeing prospal as the #1 center or wing, but I just dont see that happening. Maybe he comes back and plays well, but to put him on the first line, when he hasnt played at all is a little crazy IMHO.

Also, I know I will get killed for this, but if Drury gets the chance, he will be good for us down the stretch and into the dance.

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Seems that Prospal's return is imminent. While we anxiously wait for updates from practice today, here are some fun line scenarios if Cally and Vinny are both back in for tomorrow's game:

Avery - Prospal/Boyle - Gabby
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccs
Grachev - Anisimov - Callahan
Drury - Boyle/Prospal - Prust

Really intrigued by that 3rd line. Vinny starts on the 1st line. Boyle doesn't deserve to be on the 4th line, and will prob take some of Vinny's shifts as he eases back into game shape.

This is all contingent on Prospal being healthy, which I am highly skeptical of.

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01-31-2011, 11:55 AM
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I doubt Vinny will be given 1st line minutes right away... would i be surprised if it happened? a little, but i wouldn't be shocked.

I think will see something along these lines:

Avery - Anisimov - Gaborik
Wolski - Stepan - Zuccarello
Prospal - Boyle - Callahan
Grachev - Drury - Prust

I have no idea really. Could drop Prospal to the 4th to start... If Prust or Cally can switch wings then you could put Prust with Boyle and Cally, that might be a nice line.

We are getting there...Dubinsky and Fedotenko will really solidify things when they come back.

As far as the D goes:

Girardi back?

Staal - Girardi
Eminger - Sauer
Gilroy - McDonagh

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01-31-2011, 11:57 AM
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As long as he plays on the power play, I'm perfectly happy with that lineup.

No need to have him playing 25 minutes right off the bat.

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I think we might even see Grachev sit and the Rangers ice a Drury-Newbury-Prust 4th...

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01-31-2011, 12:36 PM
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We really have a complicated situation. We can break up the lines we know have chemistry! Lines should go something like this.

Avery-Prospal-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Stepan-MZA
Prust-Boyle-Fedetenko

With EC scratched and Drury injured(LOL)
But we honestly can't expect not to have more injuries, so lets use Drury as a fill in. We basically have to ride him off until his contract expires and we can get rid of him.

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