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01-27-2011, 11:35 AM
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What did I say? 7M for 1 year? 3 days ago?

First I called Flash-Hannan. Then that (I was clearly inspired by other ppl who suggested that Semin likes 1-2Y deals). Scary.

Next step? Fisher?! Really? OMFG.

Seriously. I like it. Semin should be now very calm and focused on getting healthy and producing in the playoffs.

True top-winger (Semin) + true power-forward (Ovechkin) = topline.

3 grinder lines, no Purretty and we are OK to compete.


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01-27-2011, 11:36 AM
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i guess the repeat $6m/1 year deal is because he's essentially the same unknown, oft-injured quantity he was last season, and the $700k raise is for the efforts he's made defensively and on PK.

not much to talk about either way. i hope he's healthy in april.

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01-27-2011, 11:39 AM
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Good deal. Minimal risk for the Caps. If the guy wouldn’t get injured we probably would have to pay 7 to 7.5 for his services. Now he needs to come back after all star break pot 15 to 20 goals and hopefully stay healthy for the PO’s.

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01-27-2011, 11:43 AM
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I still feel like he's an albatross, but it's 1 year and he's not making more than Nick.

It only becomes a bad deal if it prevents them from addressing an area of need or he bombs out of the PO again (which I think is likely).

I give it an incomplete.

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01-27-2011, 11:49 AM
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It's not my money. If Leonsis wants to pay that for 30 great games and a coin flip in April I'm fine with it. Especially since the ufa market is cabbage this year.

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01-27-2011, 11:56 AM
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I still feel like he's an albatross, but it's 1 year and he's not making more than Nick.

It only becomes a bad deal if it prevents them from addressing an area of need or he bombs out of the PO again (which I think is likely).

I give it an incomplete.
dont give up, man. this off season we can go thru the same semin trade yammer as last off season. right? there's still hope.

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01-27-2011, 11:59 AM
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I have no problem with it. No reason you can't trade him in the offseason (value might not be there, but it'd be better than nothing) if you decide you really do need to go in another direction.

There was no way he was getting traded this season (not at this point anyways), so I don't exactly see much downside to this...

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01-27-2011, 12:19 PM
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looks like semin wants to not be injuried before testing the FA market. this puts the trade semin talk to rest for now
I wish, there's already a Semin to Montreal thread going.

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Does anyone want to explain to me how he got a raise?

I guess leverage of UFA, but still.
UFA instead of RFA.
Salary Cap Inflation
Weaker UFA class.

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01-27-2011, 12:21 PM
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No complaints here, it gives the team flexibility moving forward. Granted he didn't get a NMC/NTC.

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01-27-2011, 12:25 PM
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I'm not sure Semin should get Backstrom money when Semin only plays about 80% of the time, but we're all aware of his God mode ability, so I can't complain about a one year deal. Plus I think he's fun to watch.

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01-27-2011, 12:35 PM
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I wish the Caps made up their mind on Semin, but whatever, I guess we'll go through this same exact thing again a year from now.

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01-27-2011, 12:49 PM
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* what is your definition of made up their mind?
* right now backstrom has 34 pts and semin 35 pts. which is better high level performance in limited availability or underperformance with reliable availability?
backstrom is more disappointing right now than is semin.

it would be interesting to know the truth. i'd say its possible that the difference in the two players is that one can play with his injury and the other can not. the one that can play with it still can't perform, though. or maybe semin is injury prone. it causes him to miss games. backstrom is overweight prone and while durable and in the lineup his game suffers significantly. which is worse?

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I still feel like he's an albatross, but it's 1 year and he's not making more than Nick.

It only becomes a bad deal if it prevents them from addressing an area of need or he bombs out of the PO again (which I think is likely).

I give it an incomplete.

He's likely to do the opposite in the POs considering his up and down trend suggests some God-mode is in order -- barring injury that is.

Also, not saying that he necessarily did, but the short contractual term gives the impression he took one for the team. Either way, win-win.

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I wish the Caps made up their mind on Semin, but whatever, I guess we'll go through this same exact thing again a year from now.
The Caps did make up their mind, and offered him a multi-year deal. Semin opted for a one-year deal. Personally, I think that Semin did them a favor, by helping the Caps to minimize their own risk.

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OT: Is it possible for it to come between Laich or Hendricks that we choose to re-sign?

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01-27-2011, 01:00 PM
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He's likely to do the opposite in the POs considering his up and down trend suggests some God-mode is in order -- barring injury that is.

Also, not saying that he necessarily did, but the short contractual term gives the impression he took one for the team. Either way, win-win.
His short term was his choice. The team wanted longer. So, he certainly didn't "take one for the team".

I'll be the first to eat crow when this player plays to the level of a 6.7m contract over the course of 4 playoff series and is seen raising a Stanley Cup. I just wouldn't bank on it.

Can't wait for the Deadline.

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His short term was his choice. The team wanted longer. So, he certainly didn't "take one for the team".

I'll be the first to eat crow when this player plays to the level of a 6.7m contract over the course of 4 playoff series and is seen raising a Stanley Cup. I just wouldn't bank on it.

Can't wait for the Deadline.

I understand that. But he also could have decided to test free agency this off-season. He believe's in his abilities obviously, and the fact he's willing to take a risky short-term deal also seems to suggest that he wants a longterm deal at a better rate than was likely offered by GMGM.

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* what is your definition of made up their mind?
* right now backstrom has 34 pts and semin 35 pts. which is better high level performance in limited availability or underperformance with reliable availability?
backstrom is more disappointing right now than is semin.

it would be interesting to know the truth. i'd say its possible that the difference in the two players is that one can play with his injury and the other can not. the one that can play with it still can't perform, though. or maybe semin is injury prone. it causes him to miss games. backstrom is overweight prone and while durable and in the lineup his game suffers significantly. which is worse?
Not that it really has any effect on your argument as I completely agree but Backstrom has 46 points right now. Both players have identical .90 points per game averages this season though.

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OT: Is it possible for it to come between Laich or Hendricks that we choose to re-sign?
I don't see why it would. They're not competing for the same spot, and cap space won't be an issue.

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I'm not sure Semin should get Backstrom money when Semin only plays about 80% of the time, but we're all aware of his God mode ability, so I can't complain about a one year deal. Plus I think he's fun to watch.
Fun is overrated. Trade Semin.

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01-27-2011, 01:14 PM
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I think a chocie between Matt Hendricks or Matt Bradley is far more realistic.

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I'm not sure Semin should get Backstrom money when Semin only plays about 80% of the time, but we're all aware of his God mode ability, so I can't complain about a one year deal. Plus I think he's fun to watch.
Well the way he has played since signing his contract Backstrom shouldn't be getting Backstrom money. 9 more years of the way he has played this year makes that deal a very poor one from the Caps perspective. Up until this season I have loved Backstrom's play and development but I'm just saying...

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I'm not sure Semin should get Backstrom money when Semin only plays about 80% of the time, but we're all aware of his God mode ability, so I can't complain about a one year deal. Plus I think he's fun to watch.
technically, Semin got Backstrom Cap hit, not Backstrom money. Nicky will make $6m next year.

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What did I say? 7M for 1 year? 3 days ago?

First I called Flash-Hannan. Then that (I was clearly inspired by other ppl who suggested that Semin likes 1-2Y deals). Scary.

Next step? Fisher?! Really? OMFG.

Seriously. I like it. Semin should be now very calm and focused on getting healthy and producing in the playoffs.

True top-winger (Semin) + true power-forward (Ovechkin) = topline.

3 grinder lines, no Purretty and we are OK to compete.


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Power Ball Numbers please

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I think a chocie between Matt Hendricks or Matt Bradley is far more realistic.
Yeah I have no doubt that Hendricks would gladly return for a Bradley like deal. After last season I think most thought we would be lucky to resign Laich for a $3.5 mil cap hit and most likely it would reach $4 mil. Now I have no idea how much he is likely to command but frankly something around $2.5 or $2.75 mil on average would be more than fair IMO.

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