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01-27-2011, 07:53 PM
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Roloson would have been better. Yes.

However, moving past that, you can't compare save percentages of Oilers goalies to save percentages around the league. Last year we had a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE team. This year, we have a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE defence, both the individuals playing the position and our team defence. Last in the league penalty kills are goalie sinkers.

I instantly disregard the opinion of anyone who brings up save percentage with respect to Khabi because to do so demonstrates you don't understand just how hard it is for a goalie to look good around here relative to a decent team.
well Dubynk has a decent SP so this makes no sense other goalies on other bad teams have a good Sp as well Khabby has been bad this year has maybe stolen 1 game other than that mediocre to plain out suckage Imo and when his gaa is near the worst in the league as well as his save percentage it shows a goalie playing bad point blank


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01-27-2011, 08:04 PM
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Definitely Roloson was a favorite of mind and I was wanting him extended here and thought he would continue to play well and meet our needs. We could have Roli at half the price and a much better competitive guy and healthy player(in all ways) than Khabi.

How odd that a GM like Tambo that is Afraid of the attitude that Souray might bring to a young club was in favor of Khabi over Roli.



Oh well.

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Roloson would have been better. Yes.

However, moving past that, you can't compare save percentages of Oilers goalies to save percentages around the league. Last year we had a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE team. This year, we have a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE defence, both the individuals playing the position and our team defence. Last in the league penalty kills are goalie sinkers.

I instantly disregard the opinion of anyone who brings up save percentage with respect to Khabi because to do so demonstrates you don't understand just how hard it is for a goalie to look good around here relative to a decent team.
How is Dubnyk doing?

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Definitely Roloson was a favorite of mind and I was wanting him extended here and thought he would continue to play well and meet our needs. We could have Roli at half the price and a much better competitive guy and healthy player(in all ways) than Khabi.

How odd that a GM like Tambo that is Afraid of the attitude that Souray might bring to a young club was in favor of Khabi over Roli.



Oh well.
The rift was personal between Tambellini and Souray. That whole "effect of his attitude on the team" issue was a smokescreen.

The Khabi signing defied logic, on it's own. It's a giant turd smear on Tambellini.

Tambellini's piling up the minuses, and if he can't add meaningful contributors next offseason, there are really no pluses to justify his employment here.

Fans should have itchy trigger fingers right about now, leading up to the trade deadline.

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I'll bet he can still be moved-If we take a "bad" contract back. Philly's goaltending is pretty flimys...so is Washington's.

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Roloson would have been better on the ice, off the ice, and easier on the pocket book on a shorter term.

Hate to beat a dead horse, but it deserves beating.
Yes, Roli would have been better in a lot of ways. But we would have had a mediocre team for years after due to a better record last year. Because of the Khabby effect, we have Taylor Hall and another soon to be really good stud.

Now, can we beat up the horrific Horcoff signing please?

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What if we bring up Gerber?

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He along with Strudwick have been the keys to the tanks.

It really is sad to read some of the excuses that people here put out there to defend some players.
-Maybe he is good in the room...who cares?
-Maybe he is good mentor to Dubnyk...thats what goalie coaches are for.
-He cleared the way for JDD to become a starter...huh?
-Provided a lot of stability...when?
-we have a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE defence...he has been getting badly outplayed by a rookie backup all season, who is above .500 playing behind the same team.

My hope is that he plays 25 games next year and gets Nylander'd to Russia.

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He along with Strudwick have been the keys to the tanks.

It really is sad to read some of the excuses that people here put out there to defend some players.
-Maybe he is good in the room...who cares?
-Maybe he is good mentor to Dubnyk...thats what goalie coaches are for.
-He cleared the way for JDD to become a starter...huh?
-Provided a lot of stability...when?
-we have a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE defence...he has been getting badly outplayed by a rookie backup all season, who is above .500 playing behind the same team.

My hope is that he plays 25 games next year and gets Nylander'd to Russia.
Great post.

I have no idea how anyone can excuse the Khabibulin signing.

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01-27-2011, 11:31 PM
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Definitely Roloson was a favorite of mind and I was wanting him extended here and thought he would continue to play well and meet our needs. We could have Roli at half the price and a much better competitive guy and healthy player(in all ways) than Khabi.

How odd that a GM like Tambo that is Afraid of the attitude that Souray might bring to a young club was in favor of Khabi over Roli.




Oh well.
irony..

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01-28-2011, 11:40 AM
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he bottom line....Khabibulin has been, and continues to be, a liability.
Lets be realistic, was there anyway this was going to be a good season for him? I was one of the few who said it from the start, theres no way he doesn't have a brutal year. The only question is is it worth giving him a shot to recover next year or do you move on and send him to Russia? I'd say the latter.

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He along with Strudwick have been the keys to the tanks.
It really is sad to read some of the excuses that people here put out there to defend some players.
-Maybe he is good in the room...who cares?
-Maybe he is good mentor to Dubnyk...thats what goalie coaches are for.
-He cleared the way for JDD to become a starter...huh?
-Provided a lot of stability...when?
-we have a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE defence...he has been getting badly outplayed by a rookie backup all season, who is above .500 playing behind the same team.

My hope is that he plays 25 games next year and gets Nylander'd to Russia.

Huh? Strudwick has only dressed once in the last dozen games or so, and has only played 21 games so far. Barring injuries, he'll probably only play 30 total. What about the other 70% of the games when the team sucks. He certainly isn't spectacular, but including his name as a frontrunner for our tanking is a little over the top and frantic.

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Huh? Strudwick has only dressed once in the last dozen games or so, and has only played 21 games so far. Barring injuries, he'll probably only play 30 total. What about the other 70% of the games when the team sucks. He certainly isn't spectacular, but including his name as a frontrunner for our tanking is a little over the top and frantic.
Strudwick played 71 and 72 games in the last 2 years. This year he has played in 21 and the Oilers have only won 2 of them, that prorates to less than 8 wins in a season. He is the worst player in the league IMO. Just becasue he is playing less while sucking worse this year doesnt make him a turd worth shining.

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Just becasue he is playing less while sucking worse this year doesnt make him a turd worth shining.


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Definitely Roloson was a favorite of mind and I was wanting him extended here and thought he would continue to play well and meet our needs. We could have Roli at half the price and a much better competitive guy and healthy player(in all ways) than Khabi.

How odd that a GM like Tambo that is Afraid of the attitude that Souray might bring to a young club was in favor of Khabi over Roli.

Oh well.
What exactly is your connection between these two? One player allegedly was disruptive to the team, made demands for a trade, berated the management on the handling of his injury - the other is a guy who has no reputation of saying boo...even when charged with an impaired after his signing with the Oilers. Are you implying that Khabbi has been detrimental personally for any lack of development by two goalies who were AHL bound last year? I am no supporter of Khabbi's contract but your comparison in an attempt to slam Tambo seems pointless.

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What exactly is your connection between these two? One player allegedly was disruptive to the team, made demands for a trade, berated the management on the handling of his injury - the other is a guy who has no reputation of saying boo...even when charged with an impaired after his signing with the Oilers. Are you implying that Khabbi has been detrimental personally for any lack of development by two goalies who were AHL bound last year? I am no supporter of Khabbi's contract but your comparison in an attempt to slam Tambo seems pointless.
Simply the word controversy.

Was Khabi likely to be controversial here given at the very least his tendency to take every second season off(whether he's between the pipes or not)?

That was the best scenario. We've seen worse.

Conversely it was predictable that Roli would continue to be a consummate pro. Presumably what Tambo wants influencing the young kids.

At least I would think.

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To this day it was the only thing me and DSF ever agreed on and that is scarry. I hated the signing from day 1 and actually didn't think Bulin would be this bad. I just hated signing a 36 year old goalie who you knew was just going to get worse.

Terrible. I hope they release him and he goes back and plays in the KHL. It woudl do this team so much good. WE could run with Dubs and who knows give Roy a shot next year.

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To this day it was the only thing me and DSF ever agreed on and that is scarry. I hated the signing from day 1 and actually didn't think Bulin would be this bad. I just hated signing a 36 year old goalie who you knew was just going to get worse.

Terrible. I hope they release him and he goes back and plays in the KHL. It woudl do this team so much good. WE could run with Dubs and who knows give Roy a shot next year.
That would be setting him up for failure. He's not even doing anything in the Q right now. If we need a goalie just sign Gerber to be the backup and send Khabis cap hit to russia.

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khabi is my favorite goalie of all time he was gold with the jets and coyotes and great with the lightning and blackhawks
he started off great with the oilers this season.
a tank is a tank. players do what theyre told.

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Come on guy.... to blame his performance... considering the team he has in front of him. No support... whatsoever. The end.

Overall I think for a majority of his play, he's kept us in a position to lead. It's too bad that it happens when we're getting blown out, and fight for a comeback we'll ultimately lose.

Whatever, it's only two more years and he's been solid enough that if we have a legitimate, and no.. seriously a LEGITIMATE Nhl defence in front of him he can hold the fort down.

Seriously though, and NHL..yep I know a complete shock.. an NHL(NHL NHL NHL) defence core... and we're set.


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Come on guy.... to blame his performance... considering the team he has in front of him. No support... whatsoever. The end.

Overall I think for a majority of his play, he's kept us in a position to lead. It's too bad that it happens when we're getting blown out, and fight for a comeback we'll ultimately lose.

Whatever, it's only two more years and he's been solid enough that if we have a legitimate, and no.. seriously a LEGITIMATE Nhl defence in front of him he can hold the fort down.

Seriously though, and NHL..yep I know a complete shock.. an NHL(NHL NHL NHL) defence core... and we're set.


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His save percentage is 25 points lower than Dubnyk. Theres really no excuses for him. The guy is having a terrible year and I don't see him bouncing back at this point in his career.

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did you think that about hasek as well? or how about osgood?

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can some one answer this ? please go to say if edm waived khabby and we recalled him and someone claimned him would we still be responsible for the full cap hit or half considering he signed his contract after 35

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khabi is my favorite goalie of all time he was gold with the jets and coyotes and great with the lightning and blackhawks
he started off great with the oilers this season.
a tank is a tank. players do what theyre told.
No one has told Khabby to tank get real

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did you think that about hasek as well? or how about osgood?
When did Haseks play ever decline this much? he's probably as good a goalie as Khabby at 45.

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