I've already explained 2-3 times, why I think the Smyth trade was a losing trade for the isles.
I'll explain again.Slowly
1.21 yr old Nilsson,O'marra and the 2007 15th overall still had good value.Instead of using those trade chips for a 19-24 game rental,the isles would have been better off using them to add a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman,who was 3-5 yrs from unrestricted free agency.
2.The isles were playing well and held the 6th spot in the playoff race.The way they were playing,they didn't need Smyth to come in and give them a boost,carry them into the playoffs.
3.The following season,at the trade deadline,Snow told the press and fans he came close to making a big trade,that it fell through.Newsday would later tell us that the player Snow was trying for was Huselius and the deal hit a snag, when Snow couldn't get him to agree to an extension before compleing the trade.Huselius was an impending ufa.Clearly Snow wasn't getting burned again in a similar situation:moving quality prospects,high picks for a rental who might later balk at signing an extension.
I guess you missed the part where I told you to stop using past tense. You aren't very good at this. Laughingly your next 2 reasons are woulda, shoulda, coulda. What "could" have happened does not make what "did" happen a bad trade. I am still not saying it was a good trade, but it was definitely not a bad trade. Since you have repeated the same thing 2-3 times, this time slowly, I'm not going to ask for more reasons since I'm sure you would have mentioned them if you had them. Freud defines insanity as doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. The result is you have not proved this was a bad trade. I'm going to keep you around though. You are silly and I like it.
I guess you missed the part where I told you to stop using past tense. You aren't very good at this. Laughingly your next 2 reasons are woulda, shoulda, coulda. What "could" have happened does not make what "did" happen a bad trade. I am still not saying it was a good trade, but it was definitely not a bad trade. Since you have repeated the same thing 2-3 times, this time slowly, I'm not going to ask for more reasons since I'm sure you would have mentioned them if you had them. Freud defines insanity as doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. The result is you have not proved this was a bad trade. I'm going to keep you around though. You are silly and I like it.
I didn't miss it.I thought it was such a silly comment,that I ignored it.
Snow's actions in the next few seasons after the Smyth trade are pretty telling:he nixed what he called a big trade,the Huselius trade, when the soon to be ufa refused to agree to an extension before the trade was completed.
The Edmonton and Columbus press reported that last summer,the Oilers were pushing a Hemsky for 4th overall pick trade.Columbus passed.
At the same draft,Katie Strang reported Snow was willing to movde his 5th overall.He wanted a 20-22 yr old,with upside similar to Nino's.You think the Oilers wouldn't have jumped to trade Hemsky,2 yrs from unrestricted free agency,for the Isles 2010 first.
Yes.The Smyth trade worked out exactly as Snow and the isles hoped it would:Smyth playing 19 regular season games,4-5 playoff games and then the team wasting three high picks who could've been used as trade chips to fill other team needs.
I've already explained 2-3 times, why I think the Smyth trade was a losing trade for the isles.
I'll explain again.Slowly
1.21 yr old Nilsson,O'marra and the 2007 15th overall still had good value.Instead of using those trade chips for a 19-24 game rental,the isles would have been better off using them to add a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman,who was 3-5 yrs from unrestricted free agency.
2.The isles were playing well and held the 6th spot in the playoff race.The way they were playing,they didn't need Smyth to come in and give them a boost,carry them into the playoffs.
3.The following season,at the trade deadline,Snow told the press and fans he came close to making a big trade,that it fell through.Newsday would later tell us that the player Snow was trying for was Huselius and the deal hit a snag, when Snow couldn't get him to agree to an extension before compleing the trade.Huselius was an impending ufa.Clearly Snow wasn't getting burned again in a similar situation:moving quality prospects,high picks for a rental who might later balk at signing an extension.
Although one could argue against all three points, especially the 2nd point (and, uhhhhh, I don't even get point 3, as Huselius doesn't hold nearly the importance of a Ryan Smyth, i.e. that scenario would be reasonable for any and every GM in the league), the trade was an extreme success if for nothing else than it said "I'm the new GM Garth Snow and I'm ready to make MY team better NOW!!!"
The signal it sent to the fanbase was HUGE!
It made our team immediately better and it put us on the map in Canada too, which had basically forgotten we exist. I mean seriously, Captain Canada right here on Long Island!!!
That it was a gamble because UFA Smyth was gonna be a real hard signing is secondary.
That he walked, Yashin was bought out and Poti, Kozlov and Blake jumped ship by July 5th of that summer was a huge blow and ultimately a sign of what was to come, as Snow got brushed off by the top 20+ UFAs that summer and had to settle for Sim (who was signed very quickly), Guerin, Fedetenko and Comrie.
In any case, we won't be seeing a trade of this nature anytime soon. Maybe when we're in a position for it again.
Although one could argue against all three points, especially the 2nd point (and, uhhhhh, I don't even get point 3, as Huselius doesn't hold nearly the importance of a Ryan Smyth, i.e. that scenario would be reasonable for any and every GM in the league), the trade was an extreme success if for nothing else than it said "I'm the new GM Garth Snow and I'm ready to make MY team better NOW!!!"
The signal it sent to the fanbase was HUGE!
It made our team immediately better and it put us on the map in Canada too, which had basically forgotten we exist. I mean seriously, Captain Canada right here on Long Island!!!
That it was a gamble because UFA Smyth was gonna be a real hard signing is secondary.
That he walked, Yashin was bought out and Poti, Kozlov and Blake jumped ship by July 5th of that summer was a huge blow and ultimately a sign of what was to come, as Snow got brushed off by the top 20+ UFAs that summer and had to settle for Sim (who was signed very quickly), Guerin, Fedetenko and Comrie.
In any case, we won't be seeing a trade of this nature anytime soon. Maybe when we're in a position for it again.
When it became clear that signing Smyth to an extension,was not gonna be just a formality,that they team might have dealt two top prospects and a number one pick for a 20+ game rental,we had one of our posters say that it didn't matter if Smyth stuck around or not.That trading for him had created a 'buzz".I disagreed and I think Snow did too,judging by his actions since that trade.
His refusal to trade top youngsters or high picks for Huselius or Hemsky,both of whom were closing in on unrestricted free agency,both of whom would have been tough to re-sign.
