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1/31/11 All-Star weekend: keep the changes, make more changes?

View Poll Results: All-Star weekend: keep the changes, make more changes?
Go back to old method 4 9.30%
Keep the changes 9 20.93%
Make more changes 14 32.56%
Other, please explain 2 4.65%
I don't care 14 32.56%
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01-31-2011, 02:27 PM
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People who hate the All-Star game will never not hate it. You have about a billion other games to watch all year long, deal with it and skip this one.
I liked the changes this year a lot, but I voted "more changes" because I think if you're going to take the time to invite the rookies, you have to give them more to do than just the skills competition. I liked the Young Stars game, but better when it was 4 on 4, not 3 on 3, and played somewhat more like a real game rather than a ten minute shinny.
The problem is when you have a lot of people that are diehard hockey fans that won't watch one of your biggest events of the year, you have a problem.

It's not all about skipping it. If the NHL can't keep it's regular day to day fans happy how do they expect to get new fans?

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01-31-2011, 02:34 PM
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I thought the draft was pretty neat. I missed it when it was live, but saw the recap on NHLnetwork, and it was actually the first time I remember having an actual discussion about anything relating to the allstar game with my friends the next day.

The skills competition is always something I watch at least with a passing interest, and this year was no exception. It was cool to see the captains making the calls on the fly as to who was going to go up when.

As for the game, I watched maybe 4 minutes of it total. I really had no interest in the actual game itself, but I don't see how that could be made any more interesting for a guy like me outside of having more Oiler content, but I don't see how that would improve it for anyone else. The ASG just isn't for everyone, and those who don't like it probably aren't going to start caring just because two players hand-picked the teams on the ice.

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01-31-2011, 02:40 PM
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I read something that the draft had 1.5mil viewers. Any numbers on the game itself?

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01-31-2011, 03:17 PM
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I read something that the draft had 1.5mil viewers. Any numbers on the game itself?
I don't think there's anything yet, but it will be interesting to see. Despite some posters' bashing of the fantasy draft, at 1.5 million viewers those numbers are huge for the NHL, and there's probably no way we won't see it again next year. The game itself last year was 1.1 million, I wonder if the draft might even outdraw the game itself.

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01-31-2011, 03:20 PM
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the all-star game is for kids and casual fans, and that's about it. if they wanna mess around with different formats, to keep the kids watching, who cares really. i actually thought the draft idea was pretty unique. the players are in the same boat most of the hard core fans ove the age of 12 are, they think the game itself is kind of a waste of time. but i guarantee you everyone of the players them is honoured to be named to the all star game. it's a recognition of being one the best in your trade.

but if your gonna make the players partipate in the game, at least give them the choice to pick thier own teams, and make the game more fun for the players to actually play in. that's why i like the draft idea.
It was the specific concept of the player draft, modeled to kids, that I found most offensive in this.

This is a sandlot/recess concept of exclusion/inclusion that has been rightly dissuaded by educators for decades. That the NHLPA in its limited wisdom and complete absence of thought decided to bring this concept back to kids and model it is both misguided and offensive.
The concept of the sandlot player pick is not "fun" for kids its bullying, exclusion, hierarchy, pecking order, and cliques all rolled up into one.

Teachers decades ago with a modicum of wisdom explained the prejudice involved in this nature of selection to kids decades ago. Convinced kids that even at best, this method of "team selection" was unkind.

Shame on the thick minded NHLPA jocks R us brethren bringing this notion of exclusivity back to kids.


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01-31-2011, 03:33 PM
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Anyone have any clue of when Hemsky and Eberle will be back?
Eberle is skating in practice today. So is Hemsky but he's wearing the red jersey (do not hit). No Brule, no Hall (day off or still travelling).

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Been a long time, but was the All-Star game more intense back in the day?

I remember Lindros getting in trouble because he was actually playing for real haha.

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It was the specific concept of the player draft, modeled to kids, that I found most offensive in this.

This is a sandlot/recess concept of exclusion/inclusion that has been rightly dissuaded by educators for decades. That the NHLPA in its limited wisdom and complete absence of thought decided to bring this concept back to kids and model it is both misguided and offensive.
The concept of the sandlot player pick is not "fun" for kids its bullying, exclusion, hierarchy, pecking order, and cliques all rolled up into one.

Teachers decades ago with a modicum of wisdom explained the prejudice involved in this nature of selection to kids decades ago. Convinced kids that even at best, this method of "team selection" was unkind.

Shame on the thick minded NHLPA jocks R us brethren bringing this notion of exclusivity back to kids.
I am trying to figure out why you are *****ing and moaning about something you didn't even watch. Get over it man, you are making yourself look like a grandfather in a fit of ranting. No one likes to converse with a ranter. Too much negativism.

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I am trying to figure out why you are *****ing and moaning about something you didn't even watch. Get over it man, you are making yourself look like a grandfather in a fit of ranting. No one likes to converse with a ranter. Too much negativism.
I've indicated already I find the concept pointless and offensive. No surprise then I had no interest in watching it.

The thread is about commenting on the format. I know the format. which is what I'm commenting on. Was it necessary for me to watch the draft to know I didn't agree with the format?

let me know..

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The changes made to this years edition of the ASG has won me back. I cant remember the last time I wanted to watch it.

Way to go Count! See ya next year.

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I read something that the draft had 1.5mil viewers. Any numbers on the game itself?
The numbers came out today. 2.39 million watched it on CBC. The previous record high was from the '99 all star game which had 1.67 million. Skills drew 2.45 million and the previous high was 1.37 million from '09. I think Shanahan earned himself a raise lol.

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I wish there was still the young stars competition.

And imho, the format should be 4 on 4.

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