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01-31-2011, 06:57 PM
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Oilers Looking to Trade Possible Hemsky,Penner,Cogliano.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=351821

I'm thinking low first round picks possible top 5.

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I'm thinking low first round picks possible top 5.
Top 5 for all 3 maybe, but who has that kind of cap space?

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Top 5 for all 3 maybe, but who has that kind of cap space?
Islanders


19.780 in cap space currently.

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I really don't see us trading Hemsky or Penner, especially for picks.

I don't think the Oilers' focus should be gathering draft picks anymore, we will have more than enough prospects and rookies after this year's draft. If you ask me, we should be starting to gather veterans and role players to round out the roster. I don't think we should trade Hemsky or Penner, but if we do, I will be really disappointed if the return is anything other than established NHL players who fill holes (defenceman, faceoff specialist, gritty bottom six forwards). Our roster is inexperienced enough as it is, and I don't think we need to add more question marks to it.

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Im not as positive that the Oilers will be big movers on the deadline day.

I'd like to see Foster, Cogliano and possibly Fraser to be moved.

If they can get a sure thing like a Schenn/Johansen I could see a guy like Penner being moved.

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01-31-2011, 07:13 PM
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I really don't see us trading Hemsky or Penner, especially for picks.

I don't think the Oilers' focus should be gathering draft picks anymore, we will have more than enough prospects and rookies after this year's draft. If you ask me, we should be starting to gather veterans and role players to round out the roster. I don't think we should trade Hemsky or Penner, but if we do, I will be really disappointed if the return is anything other than established NHL players who fill holes (defenceman, faceoff specialist, gritty bottom six forwards). Our roster is inexperienced enough as it is, and I don't think we need to add more question marks to it.
I'm going to be very nervous this trade deadline, as my faith in Oilers management is at an alltime low. It'd be so easy for them to screw up such a brightly futured team.

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01-31-2011, 07:15 PM
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please only 1 of Hemsky or Penner gone....please, I can't handle this many rookies in the line-up

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I wonder if the Oilers could get Tyler Myers for Dustin Penner.

Looking back at that signing it wasn't a good one for Edmonton.

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I'm going to be very nervous this trade deadline, as my faith in Oilers management is at an alltime low. It'd be so easy for them to screw up such a brightly futured team.
They aren't going to trade away and of the future building blocks.

I'm not too sure why you are at an all-time low regarding your faith in management. I think Tambellini is doing a fine job of clearing out the dead-weight. Guys like Moreau, O'Sullivan, Nilsson and Pisani. He can't trade everyone at once. Guys like Strudwick, Stortini and Jacques won't be around much longer. Don't worry. A rebuild doesn't happen overnight.

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somewhat misleading speculation. TSN does 2 or 3 players from each canadian team for attention. There's no reason to move Hemsky or Penner....since the return for neither will be at an all-time high. We already have prospects, and will have even more after next year's draft, but we still need to ice an NHL team, and I don't see who could fill the shoes of both Penner and Hemsky.

What is more realistic is Brule, Cogs, Fraser, Gerber, JDD, JFJ, Stortini, Vandermeer, Chorney are available. Probably won't get a high return on anyone, a 3rd at the most for even the best of these guys - but we got a 2nd for Grebeshkov....so you never know.

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I wonder if the Oilers could get Tyler Myers for Dustin Penner.
Ouch, kinda like if Burkie wanted to trade Kessel for Seguin

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I wonder if the Oilers could get Tyler Myers for Dustin Penner.

Looking back at that signing it wasn't a good one for Edmonton.
Had the Oilers not signed Penner things would have worked out differently regarding the draft picks and the teams' finish. Myers being drafted by Buffalo wasn't only due to the Oilers offer sheet.

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Sounds like their speculating. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened but then again I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen.

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Where's Gagner on that list, he's another guy that could find himself with a new address soon.

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Where's Gagner on that list, he's another guy that could find himself with a new address soon.


It would be stupid to trade Sam Gagner.The guy is only 1 year older then Jordan Eberle .

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cogs is almost a given that he will be shopped around, hemsky's injuries may warrent a trade out of here(yes hes great butwhen he spends 1/2 the season injured is he worth it?), penner should stay a big body who can pot a few isnt easy to come by

still think hemsky for a 8-10 pick would be good then maybe package that with something to get us up into 4ish area and take another of the 4 front runners

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That article is not even at a level of decent speculation. It just throws a bunch of names out for a bunch of teams. Deals might happen or they might not but there's nothing in the story that everyone hasn't already said a thousand times.

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I think at worst only 1 of the 3 will be traded.

I hope(!) Tambo has learned that more rookies =/= winning. Nor is it a good place to develop.

Whoever is traded, I just hope we get a good package.

I want high picks and legit prospects and even some veterans coming back. I don't care if their bottom sixers, I just want some veterans.

This team cannot get younger. We need some balance.

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It would be stupid to trade Sam Gagner.The guy is only 1 year older then Jordan Eberle .
I haven't seen any progress in his game over the last 4 years, he's still slow, still 40% in the faceoff circle and is pushed off the puck easier than ever. Time to start calling this spade, a spade.

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I really don't see us trading Hemsky or Penner, especially for picks.

I don't think the Oilers' focus should be gathering draft picks anymore, we will have more than enough prospects and rookies after this year's draft. If you ask me, we should be starting to gather veterans and role players to round out the roster. I don't think we should trade Hemsky or Penner, but if we do, I will be really disappointed if the return is anything other than established NHL players who fill holes (defenceman, faceoff specialist, gritty bottom six forwards). Our roster is inexperienced enough as it is, and I don't think we need to add more question marks to it.
Interesting to see open speculation about a further sell-off by the most respected media outlet in the country - something most on here have not been able to make sense of despite "full rebuild" language for a full year, and Chicago being cited as a good build model. Prepare yourselves to be without your top players and replacing them with more high quality pieces for the future core.

On your first part I agree because they shouldn't trade these guys (83, 27) for picks - the reason being that no rebuilding team is going to trade a lottery pick for one year of Hemsky - why would we trade him to serve our rebuild and expect another team in the same position to give us a top pick that we covet? We're not going to be getting a pick in the top 15. However, we should target top prospects and a pick from playoff teams - the ones who are actually buyers at the deadline.

I disagree that we should be trading our top players for role players - are you kidding me? We are in a full rebuild - we are looking for top quality prospects (1st line forwards, top pairing D) not lots of 2nd and third liners. Those players you get on July 1 in free agency when the time is right. Are we a better team if we traded Hemsky for Malhotra and Bieksa as an example? No!!

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I think Penner can have a place on this team. In fact I think we need him more than we know.

I survived the loss of Smyth only due to his salary demands. Hemsky goes and I go. No matter how bright the upside looks.

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I'm ok with losing Hemsky or Penner if the price is right. And it would have to be a hell of a second offer to get the last of the two as that leaves our top 6 very short on vets.

Cogliano I'd actually like to keep. If he can learn to win draws, he's a good player to have. He's cheap, he busts his ass and he wants to play here. I'd far prefer we move Brule, who's always sick or injured. Think there's any chance Chicago would go for a Penner + Brule + Smid for Seabrook + salary deal?

And I am against trading Gagner baring a great return. He's still very young and has improved in every year. Right now, he's looking great with Omark and Paajarvi and if we had a defense that could complete a pass I think they'd have much better numbers. Gagner was clicking along nicely when Whitney was around to feed him.

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I think at worst only 1 of the 3 will be traded.

I hope(!) Tambo has learned that more rookies =/= winning. Nor is it a good place to develop.

Whoever is traded, I just hope we get a good package.

I want high picks and legit prospects and even some veterans coming back. I don't care if their bottom sixers, I just want some veterans.

This team cannot get younger. We need some balance.
maybe that's the point....

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