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Foster vs Peckham vs Gilbert

View Poll Results: Better defensemen as of now?
Tom Gilbert 62 65.26%
Theo Peckham 33 34.74%
Kurtis Foster 0 0%
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02-03-2011, 10:59 AM
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Foster vs Peckham vs Gilbert

I know they are all completely different players, but who does everyone think is the better d-man right now? I am having a heated argument with a friend and he told me if I asked 100 people, all 100 would choose the person that he thinks is better. Oh and reasons why one is better then the other would be great. Thanks.

Edit: if a poll could be added, that'd be great, I'm not sure how to go about adding a poll.


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Gilbert, by virtue of his experience and tangibles.

Peckham is is still quite raw and mistake-prone, and Foster has incredible glaring deficiencies all over his game.

Gilbert's playing above his competency level right now, but he's not being completely destroyed, and that's a credit to the guy.

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02-03-2011, 11:09 AM
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Gilbert, by virtue of his experience and tangibles.

Peckham is is still quite raw and mistake-prone, and Foster has incredible glaring deficiencies all over his game.

Gilbert's playing above his competency level right now, but he's not being completely destroyed, and that's a credit to the guy.
Well said, spot on sir, spot on!

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Gilbert.

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If you made this a poll, I can guarantee Foster wouldn't win.

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02-03-2011, 11:12 AM
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Gilbert, by virtue of his experience and tangibles.

Peckham is is still quite raw and mistake-prone, and Foster has incredible glaring deficiencies all over his game.

Gilbert's playing above his competency level right now, but he's not being completely destroyed, and that's a credit to the guy.
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02-03-2011, 11:14 AM
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Overall Gilbert, though I believe Peckham plays his specific role on the team better then either of those two play theirs (if that makes sense).


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02-03-2011, 11:16 AM
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I don't think theres much debate that it's Gilbert. I find myself cursing Foster's name nearly every time he touches the puck, or doesn't. He's just a black hole of suck right now. Absolutely zero creativity or anything really.

Peckham has some potential, i like the grittiness but he still has some positioning to work on and overall game.

Gilbert hasn't been incredible but he's not making as many soft plays anymore and seems to be playing better positionally.

Wow our defense needs help.

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02-03-2011, 11:23 AM
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Fosters great at making Struds look good! He's such a nice guy that he's trying to make sure Struds see some more games this year

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Gilbert>Peckham>Foster

its simple math.

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If Peckham or Foster were pushed into the role that Gilbert has been they would get destroyed.

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Gilbert, but it's not a huge compliment to the guy. It physically hurts me to watch him on the PP.

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Gilbert, by virtue of his experience and tangibles.

Peckham is is still quite raw and mistake-prone, and Foster has incredible glaring deficiencies all over his game.

Gilbert's playing above his competency level right now, but he's not being completely destroyed, and that's a credit to the guy.
Agreed this assessment is spot on from my point of view.

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02-03-2011, 11:43 AM
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Gilbert is our best Dman right now, but Peckham's attributes are what is most needed on this team right now.

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Poll is up. Vote away.

I say Gilbert.

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02-03-2011, 11:49 AM
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Is this for real?

Gilbert has been no defensive stalwart but to compare any defenseman outside of Strudwick to Foster is unfair to them.

Gilbert has been the steadiest of the 3 but that's to be expected with him being one of our more experienced defensemen.

I thought that Peckham was better earlier in the year, he has seemed to regress somewhat but he still shows promise as a decent shutdown guy.

Foster has been bad all around. His one strength is supposed to be his big shot but when he constantly shoots into defenders and misses the net, the shot becomes useless and therefore he becomes useless because there is no other part of his game that he can count on.

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02-03-2011, 12:04 PM
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Gilbert played solid last night and actually played the body a few times.

Gilbert>Peckham>Foster

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I'm going to go with Theo Peckham and not because he's good, but because he's the only defenceman on our team that offers something different that this team lacks considerably (physicality and toughness).

I don't know which Gilbert some of you have been watching but the one I'm seeing on the ice is soft as hell and simply doesn't know the meaning of clearing traffic in front of the goalie especially during the penalty kill. All this guy is good at is watching the puck go in the net without doing anything about it!

Foster - well I'm just gonna say the this guy is an all around disaster!


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Foster is atrocious.


Peckham has been our most consistent defence man this season, as Gibby was just terrible at the beginning.

But, through experience, and his play as of late, Gilbert edges over him.

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I can't vote but I am all for Peckham, I want us to draft Larsson, and to me Gilbert is not the guy you win with in the playoffs to many bonehead plays.

With Marancin eventually here the situation will inevitably comparable to one of Chicago's Duncan Keith basically replacing Brian Campbell. Unless Marancin has a set back I don't think that Gilbert has any purpose even a depth defenseman, same as Smid.

This is based on how passive these guys are. If there not going to provide offense on the powerplay, at least play with toughness. I hate all the love taps that opposing teams offense gets against them.

The only untouchable D on this team imo are Whitney, Peckham, and Petry. We need hard nose defenseman like when we had Jason Smith, and Chris Pronger. We're an easy team to play with soft D, and soft bottom forwards.

The Defensive of the future if it looks like this will be a Stanley Cup Champion

Larsson Marancin
Whitney Peckham
Plante Petry

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I also don't understand why people are so scared of having depth at defenceman. If Anaheim had Pronger and Neidermeyer in there primes with needing only 1 number 1 center they would have been the team battling Detroit year in and year out for top stop. With Whitney and the potential of Larsson your looking at an incredible defense hell I would even try get Weber thats how much I am all for defenseman

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Gilbert, but it's not a huge compliment to the guy. It physically hurts me to watch him on the PP.
He's never been a tremendous powerplay guy, but he's probably the Oilers' best defenseman in terms of keeping the puck in the offensive zone. It doesn't always equate to points on the scoresheet, but it's still an important thing that you really notice when it's lacking in other players. Speaking of which, Foster is the worst I've seen in that regard in a very long time.

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Gilbert really seems to be at his best when he has a partner with a bit of a mean streak and a willingness to assert himself physically. He and Souray were better together than when they played appart from each other. The Whitney/Gilbert pairing worked last year, but they struggled as a pair this season. When Whitney came over last year, he played with more of an edge than I'd ever seen from him previously with the Pens and Ducks. This year, he didn't bring that same edge, and I wonder if that's part of the reason Gilbert struggled a little off the hop. Once Peckham was paired with Gilbert, he's looked good ever since.

I don't know if having a guy like Peckham or Souray gives Gilbert more room to do the things that he does well, or if it's just a psychological factor that gives him the confidence to go out and actually do them, but whatever the reason, having that element in his defense partner seems to be the key to getting the best out of #77.

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I picked Peckham because the other two play with there tampons in.

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Gilbert really seems to be at his best when he has a partner with a bit of a mean streak and a willingness to assert himself physically. He and Souray were better together than when they played appart from each other. The Whitney/Gilbert pairing worked last year, but they struggled as a pair this season. When Whitney came over last year, he played with more of an edge than I'd ever seen from him previously with the Pens and Ducks. This year, he didn't bring that same edge, and I wonder if that's part of the reason Gilbert struggled a little off the hop. Once Peckham was paired with Gilbert, he's looked good ever since.

I don't know if having a guy like Peckham or Souray gives Gilbert more room to do the things that he does well, or if it's just a psychological factor that gives him the confidence to go out and actually do them, but whatever the reason, having that element in his defense partner seems to be the key to getting the best out of #77.

Thats why i put him as are future second pairing D with Peckham where Whitney is going to be a guy that can provide offense and some toughness. I think to expect him to be an all around D is too much but I like to think he can give some offense and some hardnosed play as wel

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