HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Top D-Man for the Isles

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-02-2011, 05:05 PM
  #1
Islander Prophet
Registered User
 
Islander Prophet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,497
vCash: 500
Top D-Man for the Isles

Just out of curiosity, for you teams that have a good solid #1 D-Man available for trade (I'm thinking of a guy like Seabrook for example), what would you want from the Isles in exchange?

thanks

Islander Prophet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:10 PM
  #2
Winroba
Keep Calm, Kassi On
 
Winroba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,470
vCash: 500
Lottery pick

Winroba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:14 PM
  #3
hefsbeaver
Registered User
 
hefsbeaver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 293
vCash: 500
more than the Isle would give I am sure. Why not just try to draft a Larssen or another good d-man?

hefsbeaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:17 PM
  #4
JeffMangum
I'm v
 
JeffMangum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Listening to music
Country: United States
Posts: 58,352
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by hefsbeaver View Post
more than the Isle would give I am sure. Why not just try to draft a Larssen or another good d-man?
Because they Isles have been drafting high for ~12 years and that hasn't seemed to work. If the player they could get back is young, and willing to stay with the Islanders, I think it would be wise to trade the pick for him.

__________________
Soon.
JeffMangum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:22 PM
  #5
Islander Prophet
Registered User
 
Islander Prophet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,497
vCash: 500
So our first round pick for Seabrook...I think Chicago would have to give a little more.. A top 3 pick overall is a lot...no?

Islander Prophet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:31 PM
  #6
Winroba
Keep Calm, Kassi On
 
Winroba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,470
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Streit Power View Post
So our first round pick for Seabrook...I think Chicago would have to give a little more.. A top 3 pick overall is a lot...no?
Well what's the plan here?

The Isles have been drafting high for a while now and they can draft Larsson and hope he turns out to be as good (or possibly even better) than a Seabrook calibre player.

But what's really important? The winning mentality is the most important thing in building a winning team for the future. Giving up a Larsson or a Landeskog is certainly worth it if the player you're bringing in helps the team win now and sets an example that with hard work the team will turn around.

Add a few impact UFA signings and the high draft picks over the past few years maturing and you've got a playoff team.

While trading a top 3 pick for Seabrook is overpayment, he plays well with Keith and the Hawks have no reason to trade him.

Winroba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:34 PM
  #7
Seph
Registered User
 
Seph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Oregon
Country: South Korea
Posts: 15,882
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Seph
Quote:
Originally Posted by Streit Power View Post
So our first round pick for Seabrook...I think Chicago would have to give a little more.. A top 3 pick overall is a lot...no?
Seabrook would cost a lot.Young top paring D-men are always in high demand, and if he was available expect 29 teams to be calling about him.

As an Isles fan, if Larsson's off the board, I'd trade our first for Seabrook. And even then, I'd be tempted to trade the pick even if Larsson's available. I doubt Chicago would pull the trigger on that though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Boyle View Post
Because they Isles have been drafting high for ~12 years and that hasn't seemed to work. If the player they could get back is young, and willing to stay with the Islanders, I think it would be wise to trade the pick for him.
They have? In 6 of the past 10 drafts the Islanders' first pick has been at #15 or later, and all 4 of the times it was earlier than #15 have been in the past five years.

Seph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:35 PM
  #8
joestevens29
Registered User
 
joestevens29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,909
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Boyle View Post
Because they Isles have been drafting high for ~12 years and that hasn't seemed to work. If the player they could get back is young, and willing to stay with the Islanders, I think it would be wise to trade the pick for him.
You can draft all you want, but if you don't put some players with those kids to play with the team will keep spining. And players like Doug Weight don't count.

joestevens29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:36 PM
  #9
comeclarity09
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 9
vCash: 500
Why trade our first round pick for a defenseman now? Our forwards are not good enough right now to make a major run. We are better off keeping out assets, drafting larsson, who is just about nhl ready and next year go into the season with Streit, macdonald, hamonic, larsson and DeHaan(only if he looks ready in camp). Let them gel and get the kids some development time and make a run in 2013. Plus we would have larsson on an elc.

comeclarity09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:36 PM
  #10
JeffMangum
I'm v
 
JeffMangum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Listening to music
Country: United States
Posts: 58,352
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seph View Post

They have? In 6 of the past 10 drafts the Islanders' first pick has been at #15 or later, and all 4 of the times it was earlier than 15 have been in the past five years.
That was from memory, so I probably got some of the positions wrong, but the point still stands that they have made some terrible picks in the draft. If they could get a Seabrook type for a top-3 pick, I would say to go for it.

JeffMangum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:37 PM
  #11
Kevin27nyi
Global Moderator
#21KO
 
Kevin27nyi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,510
vCash: 250
is seabrooks value really that high? i thought he was having an off year. id rather keep this pick, and try and sign a dman this summer, its a good year for top 4 dmen.

streit is our number one, we need a number two, or just get stronger defensive depth.

Kevin27nyi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:38 PM
  #12
thalegion
Registered User
 
thalegion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,996
vCash: 500
Whitney 2nd and 3rd for Tavares

thalegion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:38 PM
  #13
Intoewsables
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,252
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Streit Power View Post
So our first round pick for Seabrook...I think Chicago would have to give a little more.. A top 3 pick overall is a lot...no?
Pretty sure Chicago would rather have Seabrook than a top-3 pick right now.

Intoewsables is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:40 PM
  #14
Kevin27nyi
Global Moderator
#21KO
 
Kevin27nyi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,510
vCash: 250
if were trading top 3/5 picks, id look for a stud forward personally.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Boyle View Post
That was from memory, so I probably got some of the positions wrong, but the point still stands that they have made some terrible picks in the draft. If they could get a Seabrook type for a top-3 pick, I would say to go for it.
yes, before 2006, the prospect pool was pathetic, then in 2007, picks were moved for the playoffs so the prospect pool was barren pre 08.

Kevin27nyi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:42 PM
  #15
Kevin27nyi
Global Moderator
#21KO
 
Kevin27nyi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,510
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by thalegion View Post
Whitney 2nd and 3rd for Tavares

Quote:
Originally Posted by CF94 View Post
Pretty sure Chicago would rather have Seabrook than a top-3 pick right now.
your most likely right, although i remember a brent seabrook trade thread.

Kevin27nyi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:43 PM
  #16
Isles_Guy*
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: long Island
Posts: 6,237
vCash: 500
Send a message via Yahoo to Isles_Guy*
Quote:
Originally Posted by thalegion View Post
Whitney 2nd and 3rd for Tavares
yuck

would you do streit for hall ?

same kind of deal

and yes im aware that Whitney has played his best hockey in his career this season

Isles_Guy* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 05:55 PM
  #17
Seph
Registered User
 
Seph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Oregon
Country: South Korea
Posts: 15,882
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Seph
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Boyle View Post
That was from memory, so I probably got some of the positions wrong, but the point still stands that they have made some terrible picks in the draft. If they could get a Seabrook type for a top-3 pick, I would say to go for it.
I don't disagree that they should go for it, but for a top three pick, I really don't think past drafting record really has much of anything to do with the reason why.

Seph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 07:37 PM
  #18
Hipster Doofus
Registered User
 
Hipster Doofus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 6,455
vCash: 500
Isles have accumulated **** load of young talent. Time to start making moves to get into the playoffs. The 1st is absolutely apart of the discussion if the Isles are serious about being a playoff team.

They should be looking into EJ's situation. Throw Bailey and the 1st on the table and see how they respond.

Hipster Doofus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 08:04 PM
  #19
last row purple
Registered User
 
last row purple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,068
vCash: 500
You can have Phaneuf for your 1st in 2011

last row purple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 08:07 PM
  #20
Hipietro
Registered User
 
Hipietro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 4,450
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thalegion View Post
Whitney 2nd and 3rd for Tavares
This was said way too seriously.

Hipietro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 08:10 PM
  #21
WangMustGo
NYI
 
WangMustGo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,567
vCash: 3178
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hipster Doofus View Post
Isles have accumulated **** load of young talent. Time to start making moves to get into the playoffs. The 1st is absolutely apart of the discussion if the Isles are serious about being a playoff team.

They should be looking into EJ's situation. Throw Bailey and the 1st on the table and see how they respond.
This is what i was thinking as well. See what teams would be willing to offer for Bailey and the 2011 first round pick. Maybe the Blues would be willing to offer up someone like Erik Johnson? I don't know how the blues would feel about that though. If the Isles can add a top 2 defenseman for next season their defense will be decent.

WangMustGo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-02-2011, 08:34 PM
  #22
Kevin27nyi
Global Moderator
#21KO
 
Kevin27nyi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,510
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hipster Doofus View Post
Isles have accumulated **** load of young talent. Time to start making moves to get into the playoffs. The 1st is absolutely apart of the discussion if the Isles are serious about being a playoff team.

They should be looking into EJ's situation. Throw Bailey and the 1st on the table and see how they respond.
and in a trade like that, they still get a young guy back so the whole "we dont want to mortgage the future" line doesnt apply.

i dont think st.louis does it though.

Kevin27nyi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:47 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.