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02-11-2011, 04:05 PM
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You guys have probably seen the page but according to TSN, Penner, Versteeg and Voracek are all in play. They've apparently been reading our board religiously the last 6-8 weeks. We should get royalties for this stuff! Of those guys, Penner fits our mold the best IMO and is the surest bet. No idea what EDM would want for him but he's due $4.2M next year so that'd mean Goligoski + Grinder or Kunitz + Grinder (which wouldn't help our cause any)....
I have no idea what Penner would fetch and to be honest, if he was who we were going to acquire, I'd consider sending Tangradi back as the main piece. Penner is basically what we want Tangradi to become but he's ready and under contract for another year. I love power forwards, in fact, thats how I categorize my game but I just don't see the need to have two (Penner and Tangradi) and Kunitz, who isn't exactly a high skilled foward, in our top 6 next year. I just really would like more of an injection of skill in our top 6, though obviously Penner would be a big upgrade.

To me, I'd rather see:

Hemsky
Kunitz
Tangradi
UFA Tweener or Jeffrey/Letestu/Dupuis

then

Penner
Kunitz
Tangradi
UFA Tweener or Jeffrey/Letestu/Dupuis

I just think option A offers the Penguins a much better mixture of skill/toughness and size then option 2. Even though I view Penner as much more then a complimentary player, I would like to see a winger who can create a bit more then the Kunitz, Tangradi, Penner types of the world (not that they are all similar players). Obviously Penner would be an upgrade over anyone we have, I just would like more skill infused into the lineup.

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02-11-2011, 04:07 PM
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Fair enough. All things considered I still think he'd fit in that slot nicely.
I'd love to have him too. I just wasn't sure of the comparison and tbh, I could be wrong too. But from what I've seen, I see him as a bit different then Sykora. I really can't think of a player he reminds me of and I've been trying to think of one the past few minutes.

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02-11-2011, 04:08 PM
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02-11-2011, 04:19 PM
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You guys have probably seen the page but according to TSN, Penner, Versteeg and Voracek are all in play.
Can't believe CBJ would make Voracek available, but if they are...

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I can't believe CBJ would make Mason available, but if they are... I sure hope the Flyers don't pick him up.

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Can't believe CBJ would make Voracek available, but if they are...
I think he'd cost Goligoski + and call me crazy, but I'd consider it.

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02-11-2011, 04:24 PM
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At this point and considering our injuries all the players being proposed here would likely help us. It's all contingent on the price of course, but with Geno being out for the season I'd be highly surprised if one of these (relatively) big names didn't end up here.

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02-11-2011, 04:27 PM
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I have no idea what Penner would fetch and to be honest, if he was who we were going to acquire, I'd consider sending Tangradi back as the main piece.
Yah I think for sure whatever EDM wants, it's going to be a proven roster player and maybe a pick depending on who the player is. They have an overload of "talented young guys without much experience or leadership". In fact I think they were hoping Penner would be that guy when the whole Anaheim mess took place but he never did. But we don't need him to lead anything, just score and be a thorn in the opposition's side which he could do well. Goligoski seems the most likely candidate based on their need and salary cap numbers what else would be included I have no idea.

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02-11-2011, 04:28 PM
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I think he'd cost Goligoski + and call me crazy, but I'd consider it.
I would as well and even if this isn't the move, Goligoski being involved in a trade such as this wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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Without Sid, Geno, and Fleury clicking on all cylinders, I don't see this team beating 4 teams 4 out of 7 games. With that said, I just hope Shero doesn't try and sell the farm for a rental and bring in a big name to try and replace Malkin, hoping we can win it. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be upset if Shero didn't make any moves.

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02-11-2011, 04:30 PM
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Is Voracek really that good? I haven't watched many Blue Jackets games, so I have nothing to base an opinion on. But he seems to be talked about on here in the same breath as more established guys like Penner and Hemsky.

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02-11-2011, 04:33 PM
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He's got a pretty high ceiling but because he's been stuck in sucksville, no one really knows what he's capable of on a good team. I don't think there's any question a guy like Hemsky is more talented and capable... Penner's a toss-up. But of the three guys I mentioned Voracek would almost certainly cost the least and probably could be had for a good prospect and late pick, unlike the others. Now is the right time to buy on a guy like that IMO.

Unless Burke really loves Tangradi and really is not happy with Versteeg, in which case a good prospect and an early pick might get him. Penner or Hemsky would definitely require a good roster player to be going the other way though.

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02-11-2011, 04:35 PM
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Yah I think for sure whatever EDM wants, it's going to be a proven roster player and maybe a pick depending on who the player is. They have an overload of "talented young guys without much experience or leadership". In fact I think they were hoping Penner would be that guy when the whole Anaheim mess took place but he never did. But we don't need him to lead anything, just score and be a thorn in the opposition's side which he could do well. Goligoski seems the most likely candidate based on their need and salary cap numbers what else would be included I have no idea.
Good post. And yes as I just alluded to, Goose is the most marketable commodity we have that we might be willing to deal away.

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02-11-2011, 04:36 PM
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Voracek is not worth more than Goligoski. They basically put up around the same amount of points and goals. I'd almost always rather have the D-Man if the production is close. Regardless, I don't see either side being interested in a 1 for 1 with those 2. I could see a deal happening, but there'd have to be more pieces involved going both ways. Probably a depth forward going to Columbus and a depth D-Man going to Pittsburgh.

I'd say Versteeg is the most likely guy for us since there's a better chance Burke has a man-crush on Tangradi than the Oilers or Jackets do. I also doubt Shero breaks up his defense and moves Gogo, but it is possible.

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02-11-2011, 04:42 PM
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Unless the organization knows Despres will be ready next year, I think it would be a mistake to trade away Gogo. Once he learns to become more consistent and get's better with his stick defensively, he is going to be an awesome threat from the blueline. Right now, outside of Letang, who else is an offensive threat from our blueline, if Gogo is moved?

Goose has proven he can be very effective at the NHL level and once he can keep the consistency he brings the first 1/4 of the season for the entire season, he's gonna be great to have.

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02-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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I don't want Versteeg. The only thing he has is some nifty puck skills. He doesn't think the game at that high of a level and doesn't skate unless he wants to.

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I don't want Versteeg. The only thing he has is some nifty puck skills. He doesn't think the game at that high of a level and doesn't skate unless he wants to.
Anything more and you're giving up very legitimate assets. Are you prepared to do so? FYI I find it funny everyone else's players have these glaring flaws that the likes of Kennedy and Letestu don't. If you want some actual talent but don't want to give up the farm this is the type of player you go after.

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02-11-2011, 05:00 PM
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I don't want Versteeg. The only thing he has is some nifty puck skills. He doesn't think the game at that high of a level and doesn't skate unless he wants to.
Which is why he's actually affordable. If he didn't have those two flaws, he'd be a]making twice what he does and b]pretty much untouchable.

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02-11-2011, 05:01 PM
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Hemsky/Umber/Penner/Voracek or bust for me. Versteeg or Kulemin wouldnt be bad either, but I definitely don't wanna see Kovy or Ruutu or Arnott or someone like that brought in for no reason.

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02-11-2011, 05:04 PM
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Hemsky/Umber/Penner/Voracek or bust for me. Versteeg or Kulemin wouldnt be bad either, but I definitely don't wanna see Kovy or Ruutu or Arnott or someone like that brought in for no reason.
Depends on the asset we give. I'd be fine with giving a future mid-rounder or a late rounder this year to take a flier on someone like Kovy, but if we're spending a 1st, 2nd or good prospect then I want someone young and signed that will also be here next year too.

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Hemsky/Umber/Penner/Voracek or bust for me. Versteeg or Kulemin wouldnt be bad either, but I definitely don't wanna see Kovy or Ruutu or Arnott or someone like that brought in for no reason.
Yeah, the guys you mentioned I'd be interested in myself. If the price is amicable then I would fully expect RS to acquire one of those players. Umberger would be at the top of my list because I think DB likes guys like that, and in addition RJ has had good post season numbers and success.

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Depends on the asset we give. I'd be fine with giving a future mid-rounder or a late rounder this year to take a flier on someone like Kovy, but if we're spending a 1st, 2nd or good prospect then I want someone young and signed that will also be here next year too.
I think thats the beauty of Penner, Hemsky, Umberger and Voracek. They are all either signed or an RFA after this season.

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Kulemin would be sick... same with Voracek, Hemksy or Weiss.. Versteeg would be fine but not at the expense of something like Tangradi/Despres.

It's cool that the deadline is really interesting now, at least.

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