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Versteeg and a 2nd for a mid 1st

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02-04-2011, 07:56 PM
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Versteeg and a 2nd for a mid 1st

there are so many sick prospects this year, and imo the leafs NEED a 1st, especially a mid first. Would a team who just missed the playoffs or get knocked out in the first round do this? you get a 50+pts top 9 winger who makes your team have more balanced scoring and a high 2nd.


edit: BTW this is not a deadline deal, but at the draft deal.


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How difficult is it for Leafs fans to understand that they're not shopping for picks... no matter how overrated they get on hfboards.

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02-04-2011, 08:00 PM
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Better off keeping him a mid rounder is likely about two years out from putting up those kind of numbers

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This is a terrible proposal. Leafs way overpay.

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How difficult is it for Leafs fans to understand that they're not shopping for picks... no matter how overrated they get on hfboards.
Fair enough...

Toronto's 2012 1st rounder
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02-04-2011, 08:05 PM
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I'm not willing to give up Versteeg in order to move up 15 or so spots in the draft.

I'd rather pick in the 31-35 range and keep Versteeg.

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Whoever's pick you get would automatically win the cup and the pick would drop to 30.

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Toronto doesn't even have their 2nd? I swear, I remember reading they didn't.

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How difficult is it for Leafs fans to understand that they're not shopping for picks... no matter how overrated they get on hfboards.
Not even shopping for an additional pick, this proposes trading a quality young forward in Versteeg just to upgrade a 2nd round pick to a mid-1st round pick.

What worthless, stinking garbage this proposal is.

For the sake of intelligence, hopefully a moderator erases this thread sooner rather than later.

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Toronto doesn't even have their 2nd? I swear, I remember reading they didn't.
What? Yes they do.

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What? Yes they do.
Okay, never mind. I was thinking they traded it to the Blackhawks but that was Calgary's 2nd they traded.

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Brruuutal proposal.

Why the hell would we do this?

It's a supposedly weak draft, which means a mid 1st may not even become what Versteeg is right now, and if he does, it would be at least 3-5 years away.

Come on now.

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this is going to be a fun thread

I know I must be in the minority--but I think this board has verteeg over rated.

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Whoever's pick you get would automatically win the cup and the pick would drop to 30.
Versteeg and a 2nd for Philadelphia's 1st

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Brruuutal proposal.

Why the hell would we do this?

It's a supposedly weak draft, which means a mid 1st may not even become what Versteeg is right now, and if he does, it would be at least 3-5 years away.

Come on now.
Excuse my ignorance but isn't it supposed to be a crazy deap draft?

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Excuse my ignorance but isn't it supposed to be a crazy deap draft?
no

reportedly a top 5 draft with a steep drop off after that--but some people will argue differently

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Not sure if serious. Versteeg is worth a 1st rounder..... isn't he?

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no

reportedly a top 5 draft with a steep drop off after that--but some people will argue differently
Oh, I assumed the whole point of trading up into the mid first round was because it was a deep draft. Kind of makes the whole trade pointless if it isn't...

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Excuse my ignorance but isn't it supposed to be a crazy deap draft?
I believe it is supposed to be a good draft. Though there are many, many people who would know better than I.

It still doesn't make sense for the Leafs to trade a 55 point winger, who is good defensively, and is a huge part of our puck possession game (which is severely lacking) + a high second round pick (31-35 range) just to get a mid first.

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no

reportedly a top 5 draft with a steep drop off after that--but some people will argue differently
honestly I want to make this trade just to get Mark Scheifele, I love his potential. versteeg is good and all but he can't play even strength or against top 4 defenseman and that makes me question him being here for that long based on that.

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Brruuutal proposal.

Why the hell would we do this?

It's a supposedly weak draft, which means a mid 1st may not even become what Versteeg is right now, and if he does, it would be at least 3-5 years away.

Come on now.
It is NOT A WEAK DRAFT it's a deeeep draft but there's no real "sure fire" superstar like a Stamkos, Crosby etc. Still a very good draft.

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I'd rather keep Verseteeg and the 2nd.

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Fair enough...

Toronto's 2012 1st rounder
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a 50pt winger and a 2nd.
IF Toronto was in need of a 2nd line winger, then that would be a trade worth making.

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It is NOT A WEAK DRAFT it's a deeeep draft but there's no real "sure fire" superstar like a Stamkos, Crosby etc. Still a very good draft.
Crap shoots are not good drafts. The guy you get in the second could turn out better than who you get in the first. That's the kind of draft it is.

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How difficult is it for Leafs fans to understand that they're not shopping for picks... no matter how overrated they get on hfboards.
I don't recall any member of the organization saying that. I seem to remember Burke saying that he wasn't looking for second round picks, which I presume means he would be willing to work with a deal that involves a first rounder.

Also, unless that pick is a top 10, I want no part of this deal in a weak draft year.

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