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Beauchemin to Tampa Bay.

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02-05-2011, 10:16 PM
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For offers like that, Burke will keep Beauchemin.
And he probably should. He's Toronto's #4 D-man in pay but #1/#2 in icetime in all situations. He's incredibly valuable to Toronto because Phaneuf and Komisarek are underperforming.

Elsewhere he's second pairing. Like he should be.

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02-05-2011, 10:27 PM
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1. Connolly
2. Ashton
3. Panik

I'll take any of the above, in that order.

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02-05-2011, 11:08 PM
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Beauchemin has one year left at $3.6 and is -3 and Phillips is a UFA at the end of the year making $3.5 and is -26. Hmmmm...Beauchemin sounds better but Phillips is a lot cheaper, then again Beauchemin is French, which we happen to attract.....if there's any interest, it would probably be a mid prospect or a later pick.

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02-06-2011, 12:43 AM
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Burke wont trade Beauch unless we are made a better team right now for the trade. These two teams aren't good trading partners. It's two teams that have g.m's that want to win now, so trading Beauch for prospects/pick's doesn't work.

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02-06-2011, 12:59 AM
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Beauchemin for Malone would be a panic move for Burke.
bingo. If the leafs were closer to the playoffs i can see this happening. Burke wants a younger winger to go with his young team

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02-06-2011, 01:16 AM
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IF beauchmin goes it will be in a deal that makes us better for next year as we are not in a traditional rebuild.

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02-06-2011, 01:17 AM
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Burke wont trade Beauch unless we are made a better team right now for the trade. These two teams aren't good trading partners. It's two teams that have g.m's that want to win now, so trading Beauch for prospects/pick's doesn't work.

/thread.
well, Tampa does have more of a pressing need at D than F, so maybe they'd be willing to trade a forward for a d-man. Who knows?

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02-06-2011, 01:32 AM
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well, Tampa does have more of a pressing need at D than F, so maybe they'd be willing to trade a forward for a d-man. Who knows?
Like who though? Malone is out of the question, trading Downie would leave a hole, and they wont trade vinny, I wouldn't want him either but lets leave that alone. There isn't really anyone left of value.

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02-06-2011, 01:36 AM
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well, Tampa does have more of a pressing need at D than F, so maybe they'd be willing to trade a forward for a d-man. Who knows?
Tampa doesn't have the forwards we need / should be interested in. There's really no reason for Burke/Yzerman to even discuss it, unless they want to make a 3-way deal.

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02-06-2011, 01:41 AM
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Tampa doesn't have the forwards we need / should be interested in. There's really no reason for Burke/Yzerman to even discuss it, unless they want to make a 3-way deal.
Just out of curiosity who are some forwards that you think Beauch is worth that Burke should target?

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Just out of curiosity who are some forwards that you think Beauch is worth that Burke should target?
I think Burke has to taget big powerforward-types who are capable of being top line players, have excellent puck possession skills in the corners, and are ideally 27 or younger. In terms of wingers, think Dustin Penner, Rick Nash, Ryane Clowe, James Neal, David Backes, Bobby Ryan, Milan Lucic, Chris Stewart, Jamie Benn, David Booth, Brooks Laich, etc.

As for Beauchemin's value, that's a separate issue. Toronto should have no problem adding additional assets to get that type of player (depending on who the guy is). Beauchemin's value to Toronto is such that they're better off keeping him unless he's required to get that type of player.

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02-06-2011, 02:29 AM
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Just out of curiosity who are some forwards that you think Beauch is worth that Burke should target?
Jfried would trade Schenn and Phaneuf before Beauchemin. That's really all you need to know.

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02-06-2011, 04:55 AM
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1st

which as of now would be 28th.
No it wouldn't. 15th-30th is based on playoffs..

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Beauchemin has one year left at $3.6 and is -3 and Phillips is a UFA at the end of the year making $3.5 and is -26. Hmmmm...Beauchemin sounds better but Phillips is a lot cheaper, then again Beauchemin is French, which we happen to attract.....if there's any interest, it would probably be a mid prospect or a later pick.
You won't get him for that. A late pick?

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02-06-2011, 06:07 AM
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Like who though? Malone is out of the question, trading Downie would leave a hole, and they wont trade vinny, I wouldn't want him either but lets leave that alone. There isn't really anyone left of value.
Only player that seems to fit the bill would be Purcell who is showing him to be a top 6 winger this season, 34 points in 52 games, would make him 4th highest scorer on the Leafs, tied with Kessel and Versteeg.

But I doubt he gets traded now given the chemistry he has got lately with Gagne and Lecavalier, he completes our top 6 (only certain players click with Vinny). Wouldnt like to move him as:

Downie-Stamkos-St. Louis
Gagne-Lecavalier-Purcell
Malone-Moore-Bergenheim
Tyrell-Thompson-Hall
Ritola

Looks a lot nicer than having to bump everyone up a spot. Although now I think about it Harju? He is kept in the minors for just 2 reasons, our depth at F and he would replace Ritola who would be lost to waivers.

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02-06-2011, 07:42 AM
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1. Connolly
2. Ashton
3. Panik

I'll take any of the above, in that order.
connolly? never going to happen
panik would be nice but i doubt will be moved for beauchemin.

Ashton would be the primary target but i doubt the bolts would move them.

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02-06-2011, 08:49 AM
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I'll bet Harju would be the primary target here if we got Beauchemin.

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02-06-2011, 08:56 AM
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Burke has also expressed disinterest in draft picks.

Beauchemin is a big part of this team, if he is traded, then i would expect a roster player, or a prospect that could step in as soon as next year to be the return.

I would love to have Ashton, but i know he is probably high on the untouchable list. Any suggestions from Tampa fans?
I think if beauchemin is traded then luke schenn takes his spot on the first pairing and either brett lebda actually starts playing or keith aulie gets called up and we would be good. he plays lots of minutes but i don't think we need him as much as we say.

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02-06-2011, 09:20 AM
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So no picks, no prospects based on the other post, guess Burke will just have to give him to Tampa for free. That'll work.
If they take Komi too, then Free is a great price.

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02-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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Suprised its not Kaberle being mentioned. Rumors had it Yzerman kicking tires with aquiring Tomas in the summer. Kaberle would blend immediately with his pal Kubina, and has had a history of playing together in international play and with the Leafs. Burke has said he doesn't want to trade Beauchemin; it would require an overpayment to aquire him.

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Toronto fans think Beauchemin is worth way too much..

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02-06-2011, 09:47 AM
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Toronto fans think Beauchemin is worth way too much..
Why? Becuase is a top 2 defenceman, playing top 2 minutes. Plays boths sides of the ice, is a leader and has won the cup. He is better than some give him credit for. Plays against the best players night in night out.

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Toronto fans think Beauchemin is worth way too much..
There's just no motivation to move him at a 'reasonable' price. We give up a big minute muncher, our d gets worse, and we have no first rounder. Keeping him around to keep the team out of the basement is more motivation than getting back some marginal junk.

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Toronto fans think Beauchemin is worth way too much..

What's new with that? They think Joey Crabb is worth a first too. Hell, everyone is a first rounder....(Just not playing up to their capabilities....)

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