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02-06-2011, 07:34 AM
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Hemsky to Pens

How sick would this be, crosby finally having an elite talent on his wing signed for dirt cheap given his talent for another year as well.

so what would it cost?

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-Simon Despres and a 1st in 2011
To Pens
-Hemsky and a 3rd in 2011

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I think this is a fair deal value wise, but I don't see Edmonton wanting to trade Hemsky.

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I'm not sure how willing the Pens would be to give up one of their best prospects and a 1st. I'm not saying it isn't fair value, but it might be giving up too much of the future for the Pens.

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Doubt Edmonton would have to add a pick to this. I think it's fair to ask Despres and a 1st for Hemsky. It may be too steep for the Pens to pay since they aren't exactly overflowing with good prospects or draft picks for that matter.

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Pens can't afford to give basically 2 first rounders for Hemsky.

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Pens can't afford to give basically 2 first rounders for Hemsky.
And the Oilers can't afford to give up Hemsky for anything less. Probably doesn't make for good trade partners. The Pens likely chalk this year up to bad luck in the injury department and don't do anything major at the trade deadline. They'll likely look for more reclamation projects/aging vets who want a crack at the cup willing to sign for cheap in the off-season.

I just don't see them moving future pieces for a playoff run that will be missing their 2nd best player.

I don't see why the Oil move Hemmer unless its a can't refuse package. Not sure if Despres and a 1st is that.

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If that is all for Hemsky, Despres + 1st, that's a no-brainer for a team with a defense locked up for the foreseeable future.

I know it's a steep price for a team that doesn't have to many top prospects, but it's not like they don't have some who are ready real soon other than Despres, who might be a couple years away, they're pretty solid on defense.

Pens are now not as deep at Center with the injury to Malkin, and the winger area hasn't changed for the better in years.

The UFA winger crop is just terrible this year.

Edit: I don't know if Hemsky would be Crosby's winger, it's not spreading out the talent enough to keep teams from locking in on Sid.

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Value is fair, this deal would be great for both teams. Good proposal

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i'd do it

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I would do it. Pens have a solid defensive squad locked up for at least the next few years. I wouldn't be jumping for joy to give up a first rounder though.

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If that is all for Hemsky, Despres + 1st, that's a no-brainer for a team with a defense locked up for the foreseeable future.

I know it's a steep price for a team that doesn't have to many top prospects, but it's not like they don't have some who are ready real soon other than Despres, who might be a couple years away, they're pretty solid on defense.

Pens are now not as deep at Center with the injury to Malkin, and the winger area hasn't changed for the better in years.

The UFA winger crop is just terrible this year.

Edit: I don't know if Hemsky would be Crosby's winger, it's not spreading out the talent enough to keep teams from locking in on Sid.
With Malkin out I'd put Hemsky with Staal.

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Just for kicks i wonder how a line of Kunitz-Staal-Hemsky would look. Pens would then have to find 2 wingers for Crosby.

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I'd be happy as an Oiler fan. Not sure if the Pens could afford to take on the salary without sending a salary dump back... but the Penguins don't really have any bad contracts these days.. . do they...

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With Malkin out I'd put Hemsky with Staal.
No way, dude. That's crazy. Paired with Crosby we could actually see someone score 70 goals in a season! Now that would be a treat.

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I'd be happy as an Oiler fan. Not sure if the Pens could afford to take on the salary without sending a salary dump back... but the Penguins don't really have any bad contracts these days.. . do they...
No, we don't. But we can give you Dupuis aswell.

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No way, dude. That's crazy. Paired with Crosby we could actually see someone score 70 goals in a season! Now that would be a treat.
They could play together on the PP but Crosby has been good enough with Kunitz and Dupuis and a playmaker like Hemsky would be a great fit with Staal. We could always pair him with Crosby next season.

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They could play together on the PP but Crosby has been good enough with Kunitz and Dupuis and a playmaker like Hemsky would be a great fit with Staal. We could always pair him with Crosby next season.
Hmmm, maybe this would work out.

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If not Boyes, then perhaps Versteeg.

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If that is all for Hemsky, Despres + 1st, that's a no-brainer for a team with a defense locked up for the foreseeable future.

I know it's a steep price for a team that doesn't have to many top prospects, but it's not like they don't have some who are ready real soon other than Despres, who might be a couple years away, they're pretty solid on defense.

Pens are now not as deep at Center with the injury to Malkin, and the winger area hasn't changed for the better in years.

The UFA winger crop is just terrible this year.

Edit: I don't know if Hemsky would be Crosby's winger, it's not spreading out the talent enough to keep teams from locking in on Sid.
From a Flyers fan, much agreed.

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Hmmm, maybe this would work out.

Boyes-Crosby-TK
Kunitz-Staal-Hemsky
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Rupp-Adams-Conner

If not Boyes, then perhaps Versteeg.
don't think we have the assets to acquire Hemsky and Boyes/Versteeg.

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don't think we have the assets to acquire Hemsky and Boyes/Versteeg.
Maybe we can pray for some Shero magic.

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As an oilers lifer i am not sure i would. Then again i don't know enough about Despres. Ideally Edmonton would like to get someone who is a great defensive prospect (Depres i guess. is 30th over all a top prospect really?) and a goal scorer (even an old one in his twilight) to show Taylor hall how it's done.

With that said I am not sure two very late first rounders are worth a point a game proven talent like Hemsky. Again i am not saying no.... its just a quandary. Maybe i would

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Hemsky is by far my favorite player, but if he were to get traded I would like to see him a Penguin. They would quickly become my second favorite team and Hemmer would finally be able to put up the points that his talent dictates he can. He deserves a shot with a good team. Hemsky and Crosby would be scary good!

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As an oilers lifer i am not sure i would. Then again i don't know enough about Despres. Ideally Edmonton would like to get someone who is a great defensive prospect (Depres i guess. is 30th over all a top prospect really?) and a goal scorer (even an old one in his twilight) to show Taylor hall how it's done.

With that said I am not sure two very late first rounders are worth a point a game proven talent like Hemsky. Again i am not saying no.... its just a quandary. Maybe i would
Despres may have gone 30th overall but he's improved his stock since then. Despres projects as a two way guy at the NHL level, big body who skates well, smart positionally and good for 30-35 points in his prime years.

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As an Oiler's fan I would do this, Despres is a big dman that will be able to play defensive game and offensive game. That is what we need.

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this is without a doubt a perfect fit for both teams.

the pens have the cap space to absorb hemskys contract and in all fairness its dirt cheap given his age and talent level and hemsky would easily become the best winger the pens have had since crosbys inception(yes better then 2 months of hossa). furthermore the pens arent hurting on the backend and wont be for a long time so losing despres isnt the wrost thing imaginable.

despres is a solid defencemen prospect which is what the oilers need. the added late 1st round draft pick is again what a rebuilding club covets and allows the oilers to further their rebuild.

someone needs to email this thread and proposal to shero asap.

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